Are you navigating a no-fault divorce or looking for honest divorce advice? Is any divorce really no-fault? Legally, yes. In real life, divorce still carries blame, shame, and the feeling of failure. In Episode 88, Dr. Michael Steven Williams and Dr. Marjorie Dorimé-Williams ask what no-fault divorce means and why the legal label does not make marriage problems, accountability, or pain disappear. Eight years after their own divorce, the Triple Cs have become unpaid divorce consultants for friends, friends of friends, and people trying to figure out what to say when a marriage is falling apart. They talk about why we celebrate weddings and baby showers while giving couples almost no support after the ceremony, why “did you try therapy?” is often the wrong question, and why friends can offer divorce advice that feels supportive but is not actually helpful. They also disagree about what is harder in marriage: changing or forgiving. If you are considering divorce, going through one, supporting someone through divorce, navigating a troubled marriage, or building a healthier relationship, this episode is for you. Inside the Episode: Is Any Divorce Really No-Fault? Dr. Marjorie explains the difference between no-fault divorce in the legal sense and the real-life fault, grief, and responsibility that families still have to confront. Why Divorce Still Feels Like Failure. The hosts discuss divorce stigma, divorce shame, and why being first among your friends to divorce can feel like a walk of shame. Grace vs. Accountability. Is every marriage problem a matter of shared responsibility, or are there times when someone must be held accountable? The hosts examine what outsiders can and cannot know about a private marriage. Marriage Is Like Pledging. Michael compares marriage to pledging and college orientation: all the support comes at the beginning, but the hardest work starts after you are already in. “Did You Try Therapy?” Is the Wrong Question. Marriage counseling and couples therapy are often treated as a last-minute repair job. They discuss when therapy can help, why both partners must participate, and why it is not a quick fix. Why Friends Give Bad Divorce Advice. Marjorie calls it “support by agreement” telling someone what they want to hear instead of offering relationship advice that considers the whole situation, including the children. The Phases of Divorce. The hosts explore the period before a decision, the decision itself, and why emotions make every stage of divorce and separation harder. Are We Doing Marriage Wrong? Why do we celebrate the beginning of marriage without building a plan for communication, connection, finances, attraction, and regular marriage check-ins? Can’t Change or Can’t Forgive? The episode’s sharpest disagreement: Marjorie argues that change is the hardest thing; Michael argues that forgiveness is harder. Who Deserves to Know? Parents may be biased, friends may project, and the best person to call may be someone who has lived through something difficult themselves. Privacy vs. Processing. They discuss when to keep marriage problems private, when to seek support, and why you should build a circle of trust before a crisis. When a marriage ends, should people keep it private or talk about it? Tell us in the comments. “Divorce is not easy.” “If you only involve me in the good times, then I don’t feel like we’re really friends.” “People’s only real metric for marriage success is how long you stay in it.” Content Note: This episode includes strong language and discussions of divorce, marriage conflict, emotional distress, children, and relationships. Follow Us on Instagram Parents and Professors Podcast: /parentsandprofessorspod Dr. Michael Steven Williams: /drmikewill Dr. Marjorie Dorime Williams: /drminimarj #NoFaultDivorce #Divorce #Marriage #RelationshipAdvice #PnPPodcast#ParentsAndProfessors #CoParentingPodcast2026