The PL Project: Expanding Possibilities

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The world of education can be overwhelming and complicated, and it doesn't always have to be that way. Listen in on a multidisciplinary group of lifelong learners while they search for practical, real-life solutions to all things educational. If you're looking for snippets of insight mixed in with laughs, book recommendations, and the alphabet soup of educational jargon, you've made it to the right place.

  1. 12/04/2025

    The PL Project 25: Kelly Fonner and Sayard Bass

    NSSEO District Coaches Tara Hanson and Kim Wimer sit down with Kelly Fonner and Sayard Bass to discuss their upcoming presentation at the NSSEO Jan 5th Institute Day titled Beyond the Checklist: Applying QIAT for Real-World AT Implementation. NSSEO and member district staff can click here to register.    Kelly Fonner is a special educator and AT consultant who has been a para-educator, teacher, instructional media specialist, assistive technology specialist in EI, K-12, university, and statewide settings. Kelly has presented in the field of AT/AAC for over 40 years across the US and internationally. She is a leadership member of Quality Indicators for Assistive Technology (QIAT), WI AAC Network, an ATIA Conference Adviser, and is a co-author of the QIAT books. You can find out more information about Kelly and her services at www.kellyfonner.com. Sayard Bass is a Speech Pathologist and Assistive Technology Professional with the Southwest Cook County Cooperative near Chicago, where she built and leads the cooperative's AT program supporting 11 districts. She also teaches in the Assistive Technology Certificate Program at UIC and in AAC coursework at the College of DuPage. Sayard recently joined the QIAT leadership team, has collaborated nationally on QIAT and QIAT-PS initiatives, presents at conferences across the country, and was honored as a Joy Zabala Fellow in 2024. She believes deeply in sharing and teaching as essential parts of learning.   Find out more about QIAT and the resources mentioned in this podcast here.

    32 min

  2. 11/19/2025

    The PL Project 24: Shannon Wess and Carly Franzgrote

    NSSEO District Coaches Tara Hanson and Sheena Gunia sit down to chat with Shannon Wess and Carly Franzgrote to talk about their upcoming sessions at the NSSEO Institute Day on January 5, 2026.  Shannon will be presenting Beyond Compliance: Earning Instructional Control While Prioritizing Dignity and Respect - Easter Seals - AM Session 8:30-11:30. Carly's session titled Look Who's Talking! Increasing Communication Across Environments - Easter Seals - PM Session will be from 12:30-3:30 both at Harper College. NSSEO and member district staff can click on the links to register through Kickup. You won't want to miss these!    Shannon Wess, MSW, BCBA, is a behavior analyst with a strong background in autism services, special education coaching, and staff development. She has led training and professional learning programs that energize and empower educators, and she created First Response, an autism awareness program for first responders. Shannon has presented at regional, national, and international conferences. She holds a master's in social work with a behavioral health focus and a post-master's certificate in applied behavior analysis.   Carly Franzgrote, MS, CCC-SLP, is an Autism Specialist with the Illinois Autism Partnership. She began her career as a respite care provider, which sparked her passion for supporting individuals with autism and complex communication needs. As a speech-language pathologist in school settings, Carly developed deep expertise in AAC, functional communication, and coaching teams to carry over communication strategies. She holds a BA in elementary education with a special education endorsement and an MS in speech-language pathology from St. Ambrose University, along with her LBS1 and ASHA clinical certification.   You can find more information about the important work that Shannon and Carly do at EasterSeals, along with helpful resources on their website. Also, follow them on Instagram @eastersealsiap.

    45 min

  3. 05/15/2025

    The PL Project 23: Kim Brown

    On this episode, Kristie and Sheena talk with Kim Brown about her expansive work with the Verbal Behavior Milestones and Placement Program (VB-MAPP).  Kim Brown has been working in the field of special education for the past 23 years in a variety of roles including a teaching assistant, special education teacher, instructional and behavioral coach, principal/Program Director, Coordinator for Autism Programming and Director of Professional Learning from Early Childhood to High School.   Her work centers around special education programming and best practices in assessment, curriculum development and instruction. In addition she works with educational leaders to develop an infrastructure to maintain systems of support around professional learning goals and implementation to provide continuous short term and long term growth for educational teams.   In the episode, we talk with Kim on the student benefits of utilizing the data from the VB-MAPP assessment to learn more about your students, how this data can be intertwined with how to deliver instruction and curriculum to students across all areas, the importance of understanding verbal behavior for all educators, and overall some helpful tips and suggestions for teams when it comes to getting started on the assessment and teaching to use the results.    Listeners can find more information on Verbal Behavior Milestones and Placement Program on Mark L. Sundberg's website, The Pattan Website- which includes a lot of video explanations, and utilizing NSSEO's coaches/consultants especially when it comes to getting started.

    30 min

  4. 01/27/2025

    The PL Project 22: Don Johnston

    For over 40 years, Don Johnston, founder and CEO of Building Wings, has helped students and teachers build literacy skills through specially-designed curriculum and assistive technology. His technologies, implementation, and personal connections have made the impossible possible in over 32,000 schools across America. At the heart of Don's endeavors is inspiration gained during his personal journey as a reader who struggled in school. In eighth grade, a teacher recognized his potential and helped him think and learn in non-traditional ways. This is the philosophy behind all of Don's product development and company endeavors. Through Don's leadership and long-standing partnerships with interdisciplinary experts, Building Wings is creating special education resources to help many more students reach new heights in their literacy development.

    35 min

  5. 12/20/2024

    The PL Project 21: Robert Pennington

    On this episode, Danielle and Sheena talk with Dr. Robert Pennington about his expansive work with individuals with complex learning needs and how to program for students using high leverage practices. Rob is a former special educator, well accomplished professor, BCBA, and leader in educational research. His current research focuses around high leverage practices as well as innovative educational methodologies of using technology and robots within the classroom. In the episode, we talk with Rob about the importance of showing teachers how to use High Leverage Practices in order to make data-based decisions for their students, as well as help teachers feel empowered over their instruction and programming for students with more intense and severe needs. Listeners can find more information about Rob's work around HLPs on the University of Kentucky's website as well as purchase his book, Applied Behavior Analysis for Everyone: Principles and Practices Explained by Applied Researches Who Use Them, on Amazon.

    39 min

  6. 12/05/2024

    The PL Project 20: Karen Erickson Part 2

    On this episode, Tara and Danielle talk with Dr. Karen Erickson about a few of the free resources available for educators who support students with complex learning profiles. Karen is a former teacher of students with significant disabilities. Her current research addresses literacy and communication assessment and intervention for students with extensive support needs, as well as the supportiveness of augmentative and alternative communication in interaction. Karen and her colleague's recent projects have focused on creating open-source professional development and implementation supports such as those available in Project VC (projectvc.org), Project Core (project-core.com) and Tar Heel Shared Reader (sharedreader.org).   On the show, Karen recommended that teachers explore the DLM Professional Development modules ASAP! She also shared information about Building Bridges which currently has videos to describe each of the conditions for learning outlined in Chapter 2 Comprehensive Literacy for All. In the future, this website will have lesson plans and instructional resources, once they are ready.    You can buy Karen and David's book Comprehensive Literacy for All on the publisher's website or on Amazon.

    41 min

  7. 11/14/2024

    Episode 19 - Paula Kluth

    On this episode, Kristie Wurglitz and Tara Hanson talk with Paula Kluth on her work with teachers and families to provide inclusive opportunities for students with disabilities and to create more responsive and engaging schooling experiences for all learners. Her work centers around providing support around inclusion, co-teaching, and universal design for learning. She has written over 15 books supporting parents and staff on these topics and she has won several awards within her profession.  In the episode, we talk with Paula about the benefits of using co-teaching as a tool for inclusion, utilizing co-teaching structures, co-teaching with related services, and how to make co-teaching collaboration work with limited time and resources.  Listeners can find more information about Paula's work at her inclusion rules website. "30 Days in the co-taught classroom" is one of her best-selling books which you can access on her website or on Amazon.

    48 min

  8. 09/30/2024

    Episode 18 - Dr. Ross Greene

    Nicole Burke and Beth Mand interview Dr. Ross Greene

    23 min
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The world of education can be overwhelming and complicated, and it doesn't always have to be that way. Listen in on a multidisciplinary group of lifelong learners while they search for practical, real-life solutions to all things educational. If you're looking for snippets of insight mixed in with laughs, book recommendations, and the alphabet soup of educational jargon, you've made it to the right place.

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