Pure Digital Passion with Moses Kemibaro

Moses Kemibaro

This is pure digital passion, the podcast of Moses Kemibaro, one of Kenya's and Africa's leading digital marketers, techbloggers, and technology analysts. Join me for insightful interviews and commentaries on all things digital from across the African continent on a myriad of compelling topics and themes. I share Africa's stories of pure digital passion!

  1. 22h ago

    Episode 196 - How This Is Digital Trained 800+ Professionals On AI & Became Meta's AI Training Partner In Kenya

    Just over a year after launching This Is Digital, co-founders Grace Murugi and Greg Wanjama have trained more than 800 professionals, served more than 40 organisations, and reached a milestone that could significantly expand their impact: becoming Meta's AI training partner in Kenya.This episode of the Pure Digital Passion podcast was recorded in a wonderfully impromptu manner immediately after I attended a practical Claude workshop delivered by This Is Digital in collaboration with Isaac Hunja of KaaraWorks. I went into the session thinking of myself as a fairly experienced AI user. I left with a clear appreciation of how much more work is required to move from basic prompting to properly designed agentic workflows.That made the timing of this conversation particularly appropriate. I had delivered the keynote address at the launch of This Is Digital in July 2025, where I traced the past, present, and future of Kenya's digital transformation. A little over a year later, Grace and Greg joined me to discuss what they have learned from building an AI-native business and teaching professionals and organisations how to use artificial intelligence in real work.We explore how This Is Digital used AI to shape and challenge its original business strategy, why AI accelerates a sound business model but cannot rescue a broken one, and why effective agents require context, specialised responsibilities, standard operating procedures, and substantial work at the beginning.Grace and Greg also share what they are seeing in Kenya. Adoption may be high, but much of it remains at the level of replacing Google Search with a chatbot. The real opportunity lies in critical thinking, privacy awareness, adaptability, responsible use, and applying AI to create measurable value for customers and organisations.The conversation concludes with a major announcement. Meta has partnered with This Is Digital to deliver AI Academy Kenya, combining a Pitchathon for Kenyan startups and developers with a sponsored eight-week online Masterclass for 300 students, startup founders, developers, and career professionals.Apply here: https://thisisdigital.ai/meta-ai-academy-kenyaLearn more about This Is Digital: https://thisisdigital.ai/Timestamps00:00 Introduction and welcome01:05 Grace Murugi's journey from computer science to AI strategy02:53 Greg Wanjama's journey through software, entrepreneurship, and the UN05:41 What I learned at the Claude workshop with This Is Digital and KaaraWorks06:49 How an AI exercise helped Grace identify the business opportunity09:10 Validating the market and choosing to launch publicly15:38 Is This Is Digital an AI-native company?16:21 Why AI accelerates a business but cannot repair a broken model20:50 Tuning AI for the context of a specific organisation23:00 Using AI for business strategy, research, content, and quarterly analysis30:18 What This Is Digital has learned about AI adoption in Kenya31:56 The hype around chatbots and AI agents36:14 Why building useful agents takes more work than people expect37:00 From AI skeptics to AI advocates39:06 How learners are turning AI skills into new services and careers41:46 This Is Digital becomes Meta's AI training partner in Kenya43:34 The AI Academy Kenya Pitchathon45:20 The sponsored eight-week online Masterclass46:11 What the next two to five years of AI adoption could look like50:43 The ambition to empower one million Africans with AI skills53:18 Responsible AI, customer value, and moving beyond vanity use cases55:54 Why adaptability may become the defining professional advantage58:00 Using AI as a coach and critical sparring partner1:00:05 Learning, unlearning, and relearning in the AI era1:01:13 Where to find This Is Digital, Grace, and Greg1:02:43 Closing thoughts and the invitation to apply

    Episode 196 - How This Is Digital Trained 800+ Professionals On AI & Became Meta's AI Training Partner In Kenya
  2. Aug 16

    Episode 195 - Airtel Money Kenya’s Michael Bonke On Winning 14M More Users, Bizna Wallet & The Future Of Digital Finance

    Airtel Money Kenya is entering a new chapter under Acting Managing Director Michael Bonke.In this episode of the Pure Digital Passion Podcast, I sat down with Michael shortly after Airtel Money launched its Bizna Wallet for small businesses and enhanced its cashback proposition from airtime rewards to actual cash a couple of weeks ago. We explore how Airtel Money has grown from a relatively small challenger to a platform that now says it serves more than six million customers, has approximately 270,000 agents, supports more than two million merchant points and holds around 11% of Kenya’s mobile-money market.But perhaps its largest immediate growth opportunity already exists within Airtel itself.Michael estimates that around 14 million active Airtel connectivity customers are not yet using Airtel Money—and converting more of them is one of his most important priorities.We discuss:✅ Michael Bonke’s appointment and immediate priorities✅ How Airtel Money moved from roughly 2% to 11% market share✅ Why distribution, liquidity and banking partnerships matter✅ Airtel Money’s 270,000-agent footprint✅ Why SMEs are central to the next phase of growth✅ Airtel Money Bizna Wallet✅ Separating personal and business finances✅ Protecting merchants from unauthorised reversals✅ Free customer payments into Bizna Wallet✅ The move from airtime rewards to real cash cashback✅ Why customer experience matters more than promotions✅ Fraud prevention, customer protection and trust✅ Embedded finance, SME lending and analytics✅ Cross-border payments across Airtel’s 14 African markets✅ Whether Airtel Money could eventually become financial infrastructure for African SMEs✅ Michael’s three-year vision for Airtel Money KenyaOne of the most interesting moments comes when I ask Michael whether Airtel Money could eventually become an operating system for small businesses across Africa.His response:“That is our goal for sure.”CHAPTERS00:00 — Introduction00:50 — Michael Bonke’s new role at Airtel Money Kenya01:32 — The 14M-customer Airtel Money opportunity02:28 — How Airtel Money moved from 2% to 11%02:57 — Banking partnerships and distribution03:52 — Growing from under 20,000 to 270,000 agents04:43 — Why SMEs matter to Airtel Money05:32 — What merchants told Airtel06:50 — Free Bizna Wallet payments and merchant charges08:20 — Could Bizna Wallet become a broader SME platform?08:58 — Cross-network Bizna Wallet payments09:26 — Why cashback moved from airtime to cash10:41 — Turning promotions into lasting customer behaviour11:38 — Becoming a customer’s primary financial wallet12:04 — Fraud prevention, security and trust13:26 — Embedded finance and cross-border payments14:09 — Could Airtel Money become an operating system for African SMEs?14:46 — Michael’s brief take on the Airtel Money IPO15:06 — What success looks like three years from now16:11 — “It works—and now it pays you back”Michael’s closing message captures Airtel Money’s positioning particularly well:“With Airtel Money you can do anything... and now it pays you back.”The Pure Digital Passion Podcast explores the people, technologies, companies and ideas transforming business and the digital economy across Kenya and Africa.#AirtelMoney #MichaelBonke #PureDigitalPassion #BiznaWallet #Fintech #MobileMoney #FinancialInclusion #SMEs #DigitalPayments #Kenya #Africa

    Episode 195 - Airtel Money Kenya’s Michael Bonke On Winning 14M More Users, Bizna Wallet & The Future Of Digital Finance
  3. Aug 16

    Episode 194 - Produce in Shillings. License in Dollars: Jason Corder’s Plan for African Media

    I met Jason Corder last week to discuss NorthSouth Media, and our meeting became what I like to call a “gangster podcast”: an informal, impromptu Pure Digital Passion conversation recorded without the usual studio production. Jason is the founder and CEO of NorthSouth Media, a Nairobi-based company building an end-to-end system for financing, producing, owning, localizing and distributing African content. We discuss his journey from San Francisco to Africa, his work as a visual artist and performer, his experience acting in Mali, and how a trailer filmed in his Kilimani apartment became Stay, a television series backed by Nokia and subsequently distributed across multiple markets. Jason explains why that experience convinced him that African production companies must retain intellectual-property ownership. We also examine NorthSouth’s connected film and creator studios, direct-distribution strategy, localization relationship with Aview International and ambition to build a substantial library of owned African content. The conversation challenges the assumption that mobile and streaming growth must mean the end of television. Free-to-air broadcasting remains accessible, communal and commercially important across Africa and the wider Global South. NorthSouth is currently raising US$1 million at a US$7 million cap for a 24-month runway. The company plans to produce an opening slate of five owned shows, enroll 25 creators before scaling to 50 and build a sales operation targeting broadcasters and brands. CHAPTERS 00:00 – Introduction00:13 – Why this became a “gangster podcast”01:00 – Human stories made by human hands04:23 – How African culture and storytelling travel globally06:46 – Jason Corder’s origin story14:27 – Why intellectual-property ownership matters18:22 – Producing Stay with Nokia’s backing22:36 – Free-to-air television and Africa’s media economy31:11 – Film, community and human connection38:35 – From artist and producer to entrepreneur40:33 – Using Bordy and AI to accelerate the business46:36 – Building NorthSouth’s end-to-end infrastructure49:28 – The NorthSouth Media elevator pitch51:16 – The Nairobi headquarters and Creator Studio vision55:16 – Microdramas, mobile video and the “shiny object”58:53 – A model for rebuilding African media1:00:55 – How to connect with Jason1:02:34 – Jason’s parting perspective ABOUT JASON CORDER Jason Corder is the founder and CEO of NorthSouth Media. He has worked across visual art, music, television, cultural diplomacy and media production and has lived and worked in more than 60 countries. NorthSouth Media: https://northsouth.africaJason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncordermedia

    Episode 194 - Produce in Shillings. License in Dollars: Jason Corder’s Plan for African Media
  4. Aug 5

    Episode 193 - “This Is Just The Beginning”: Inside Djibril Tobe’s Airtel Kenya Growth Playbook

    Airtel Kenya is entering a new chapter under Managing Director Djibril Tobe. In this special episode of the Pure Digital Passion Podcast, I sit down with Djibril shortly after Airtel Money launched Bizna Wallet and the “Si Ni Mi Nakushow” 50% cashback campaign earlier this week. The conversation moves beyond the product announcements to examine Airtel Kenya’s wider growth strategy across mobile money, customer experience, digital self-service, broadband, satellite connectivity and data-centre infrastructure. Djibril reflects on his first month in Kenya after more than two decades building businesses across African markets. He explains why he is giving himself time to listen and learn, what has impressed him about Kenya’s technology-driven economy and what customers are demanding from Airtel. We discuss the strong momentum he inherits: Airtel Kenya’s expansion from 16 million to more than 24 million customers, over 2,000 additional network sites and Airtel Money’s growth from roughly 2% to 11% market share. A major opportunity lies within Airtel’s existing base. Djibril estimates that around 14 million Airtel connectivity customers are not yet using Airtel Money and explains how Bizna Wallet, real-cash Rudishiwa rewards and “Si Ni Mi Nakushow” are intended to encourage Kenyans to carry two mobile-money wallets as readily as they carry two SIM cards. We also explore: ✅ Why the My Airtel App could become Airtel’s digital front door ✅ Digital self-service and reducing customer pain points ✅ Cross-border Airtel Money transfers ✅ API integrations for developers, startups and fintechs ✅ Airtel’s broadband journey from indoor routers to outdoor units and fibre ✅ Direct-to-Cell connectivity with SpaceX, subject to approval ✅ The 44MW Nxtra hyperscale data centre at Tatu City ✅ Cloud, AI, enterprise workloads and data sovereignty ✅ Djibril’s priorities for innovation, execution and customer experience CHAPTERS 00:00 — Introduction 01:13 — Djibril Tobe’s first impressions of Kenya 05:21 — Airtel Kenya’s growth and his leadership priorities 07:03 — The 14M-customer Airtel Money opportunity 08:13 — Bizna Wallet and 50% cashback 09:10 — The “Si Ni Mi Nakushow” campaign 12:56 — Why the My Airtel App matters 16:58 — Cross-border Airtel Money transfers 19:06 — Broadband: indoor units, outdoor units and fibre 20:32 — Direct-to-Cell connectivity with SpaceX 23:25 — Nxtra, cloud infrastructure and data sovereignty 26:47 — Closing thoughts and what comes next The Pure Digital Passion Podcast explores the people, organizations, technologies and ideas shaping digital transformation, business, marketing and innovation across Kenya and Africa. Subscribe for more conversations with African technology leaders, entrepreneurs, executives, policymakers and innovators. #AirtelKenya #AirtelMoney #DjibrilTobe #PureDigitalPassion #Telecommunications #Fintech #DigitalTransformation #Broadband #SpaceX #Nxtra #Kenya #Africa

    Episode 193 - “This Is Just The Beginning”: Inside Djibril Tobe’s Airtel Kenya Growth Playbook
  5. Jul 26

    Episode 192 - 4 Perspectives, 1 Protection Gap: The Jubilee Health Insurance & bolttech Embedded Insurance Panel

    This video captures the full "Connected to Protect" discussion panel on how health insurance can become more accessible, relevant and useful within the everyday lives of Kenyan and East African consumers. I moderated the panel during the launch of the strategic partnership between Jubilee Health Insurance and global insurtech bolttech last week. While the partnership provided the setting, the conversation went much wider: healthcare costs, fraud and extra billing, product relevance, customer segmentation, flexible payments, trusted distribution, asset financing, consumer education and claims. The panel brought together four distinct perspectives: Njeri Jomo - CEO and Principal Officer, Jubilee Health InsuranceBente Krogmann Osore - General Manager, Africa, bolttechBryan Nyutu - Principal Officer and Insurance Portfolio Lead, Safaricom PLCKen Gitonga - Group Head of Technical Product, Watu CreditModerator: Moses Kemibaro Key areas discussed: Why reducing healthcare fraud, waste, abuse and unnecessary billing is essential to affordabilityWhy protection must reach the right customer at the right momentHow embedded insurance differs from placing an existing policy inside an appWhat Safaricom has learnt from Tuunza Mapato and Tuunza SimuWhy data, customer segmentation and payment frequency shape insurance uptakeHow health protection can safeguard the livelihoods of Watu's asset-financing customersWhy hospital cash should not be confused with comprehensive medical coverWhy technology alone cannot compensate for an unclear strategy or the wrong partnersHow insurance can become a reward that strengthens engagement and loyaltyWhy transparency, voluntary participation and a dependable claims experience are fundamental to trust Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 00:12 The biggest friction between customers and useful health protection 00:37 Jubilee Health: using AI to reduce fraud, waste, abuse and extra billing 02:34 bolttech: making insurance relevant and timely 04:28 How embedded insurance changes Jubilee Health's approach 07:58 Safaricom's lessons from Tuunza Mapato and Tuunza Simu 12:24 Watu: protecting livelihoods within the asset-financing journey 14:35 When customers experience the real value of insurance 16:17 Why Kenya needs fully fledged micro-medical cover 19:12 Audience questions begin 21:10 Technology is an enabler - why the right partners matter 25:21 Bridging consumer and product-segmentation gaps 27:47 Human-centred design for mass-market insurance 31:46 Insurance as a reward and engagement tool 33:41 Medical borrowing, community fundraising and catastrophic health expenditure 37:20 Health and device protection for young daily earners 38:51 Closing #ConnectedToProtect #EmbeddedInsurance #HealthInsurance #Insurance #FinancialInclusion #Kenya #EastAfrica #Africa

    Episode 192 - 4 Perspectives, 1 Protection Gap: The Jubilee Health Insurance & bolttech Embedded Insurance Panel
  6. Jul 25

    Episode 191 - Fixing The Nation On Ride Hailing Minimum Fares, Driver Welfare, & Passenger Affordability In Kenya

    In this episode of NTV Kenya's Fixing The Nation, I joined Mariam Bishar, Eric Latiff and Fellaris Wambui to unpack Kenya’s growing debate around minimum fares for ride hailing. The discussion was focussed on the Business Daily's headline on Uber and Bolt drivers potentially getting more power in how fares are set, as well as broader proposed reforms that could bring ride-hailing platforms under greater regulatory scrutiny. We discussed what this means for drivers, passengers, platforms, businesses, regulators, competition policy, and Kenya’s wider gig economy. At the heart of the conversation was one question: How does Kenya improve driver earnings without pricing passengers out of digital mobility or weakening the ecosystem that makes ride-hailing possible? Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction: Business Daily headline and the digital taxi fare debate 01:20 – Moses Kemibaro joins Fixing The Nation 02:30 – How ride-hailing platforms work and why the issue matters 03:32 – From traditional taxis to digital ride-hailing in Kenya 05:38 – Market scale: drivers, users, rides and the gig economy 06:52 – Owner-drivers versus rental drivers 08:13 – Are driver complaints justified? 10:26 – Understanding the 18% commission discussion 11:57 – Platform value: marketplace, trust, safety and digital payments 13:40 – Tanzania as a cautionary case 14:28 – Passenger affordability and price sensitivity 16:34 – Why smart regulation must balance all stakeholders 18:14 – Where did the “doubling fares” idea come from? 20:18 – Viewer comments and subscription model proposals 21:01 – Competition risks if pricing is over-regulated 22:21 – Price elasticity: what happens if fares double? 24:08 – Passenger willingness-to-pay thought experiment 26:11 – Draft minimum compensation rules and the missing passenger voice 29:20 – Driver welfare, classification and platform responsibility 30:22 – Financing, insurance and formalizing the gig economy 33:05 – The platform as a marketplace creator 35:08 – Kenya’s ride-hailing market versus Nigeria and South Africa 37:19 – Could electric mobility reduce driver operating costs? 38:49 – Higher fares and higher consumer expectations 40:13 – Viewer comments on commissions and platform costs 42:53 – Final thoughts: broader consultation and a balanced way forward Key Themes Minimum fares versus minimum driver earningsDriver welfare and platform workPassenger affordabilityCommission transparencyOwner-driver versus rental-driver economicsCompetition and platform regulationSmart regulation for Kenya’s gig economyThe long-term future of ride-hailing in Kenya #FixingTheNation #NTVKenya #NationFM #RideHailing #DigitalTaxis #GigEconomy #Kenya #PublicPolicy #FutureOfWork #DigitalEconomy

    Episode 191 - Fixing The Nation On Ride Hailing Minimum Fares, Driver Welfare, & Passenger Affordability In Kenya
  7. Jul 18

    Episode 190 - WhatsApp Usernames, Privacy, Fraud & Digital Identity: An Interview with the BBC's Nkechi Onyinyechi Ogbonna on the Focus on Africa Podcast

    WhatsApp is preparing to introduce usernames that will allow people to communicate without publicly sharing their phone numbers. The feature could deliver a meaningful privacy improvement, particularly in group conversations, business interactions and chats with people who have only recently met. However, it has also raised questions about impersonation, phishing, financial fraud, mobile-money security and whether accounts involved in criminal activity will remain traceable. On the 15th July 2026, I joined Nkechi Onyinyechi Ogbonna on BBC World Service’s Focus on Africa to discuss WhatsApp’s forthcoming username feature. The programme also featured Somalia’s State Minister of Communications and Technology, Hon. Ahmed Osman Diiriye, who explained why his government wants Meta to provide stronger assurances around fraud, mobile-money security and digital traceability. The discussion examines why Somalia wants Meta to demonstrate “proof of traceability,” the concerns India has raised and the protections WhatsApp says it is building into the feature. It also explains: The difference between reserving and activating a usernameHow usernames differ from display namesWhy users will still need telephone numbersHow optional username keys will workWhy WhatsApp will not offer a public username directoryHow usernames could protect people in group chatsWhat the feature means for creators and businessesThe risks of lookalike usernames and impersonationWhy mobile-money markets require additional safeguardsHow digital literacy can help users identify scams Chapters 00:00 — Introduction to WhatsApp usernames00:55 — Somalia’s security and accountability concerns01:53 — Consultations between Somalia and Meta02:16 — Is there evidence that usernames will increasefraud?03:22 — “We want proof of traceability”04:27 — Meta explains its proposed safeguards05:19 — Why WhatsApp is separating identity from phone numbers06:26 — How usernames will change one-to-one and group communication07:11 — Impersonation, financial fraud and mobile-money risks09:02 — Digital literacy and practical user protection10:50 — Conclusion

    Episode 190 - WhatsApp Usernames, Privacy, Fraud & Digital Identity: An Interview with the BBC's Nkechi Onyinyechi Ogbonna on the Focus on Africa Podcast
  8. Jul 14

    Episode 189 - Africa’s Scam Economy Has Industrialized: What Telecom Operators Must Do Next

    Africa’s scam economy is becoming more organised, automated and sophisticated. What was once the occasional fraudulent SMS has evolved into smishing, vishing, identity theft, business impersonation, SIM-swap-enabled account takeovers, AI-generated identity documents and deepfake voice calls. I moderated a discussion recorded at the TARS 2026 Telecom Africa Revenue Assurance & Fraud Management Summit in Nairobi, Kenya, on the 13th May 2026 titled: Protecting the Customer: Scam Typologies, Operator Responsibilities & Fraud Awareness in Africa The panel brought together: Ann Khambo - Revenue Assurance and Fraud Management Manager, Airtel Money, Airtel KenyaOgochukwu (Ogo) Onwuzurike - Country Manager, Nigeria, TruecallerMieraf T. Birhane - Executive Head of Fraud Management, Safaricom Telecommunications Ethiopia The discussion examines how customer-facing fraud is changing across African telecom and mobile-money markets, why social engineering remains such an effective attack vector, and why operators can no longer regard themselves as neutral pipes when their networks, brands and identity systems are being exploited. Mieraf shares insights from Ethiopia’s evolving fraud landscape, including smishing, account takeover, subscription fraud and commission-related abuse. She also describes a striking case in which fraudsters used makeup and physical impersonation to attempt fraudulent SIM swaps—an incident detected because the agent involved had received practical fraud training. Ann explores identity theft, including situations where innocent customers may not know their photographs or personal information have been used to register SIM cards or commit fraud. She also explains why GSM and mobile-money fraud must be analyzed together using KYC, voice, SMS, location, SIM, device and transaction data. Ogo introduces the “machine era of spam and fraud.” According to the figures shared during the panel, Truecaller intercepted approximately 68 billion spam and fraud calls in 2025, compared with approximately 37.8 billion in 2021. She explains how AI and automation are helping fraudsters scale while excessive calls and messages from legitimate organisations are also eroding trust in phone-based communication. Key Themes: Smishing, vishing and social engineeringIdentity theft and fraudulent SIM registrationSIM-swap-enabled account takeoverBusiness impersonation and investment scamsReal-time detection, analytics and machine learningInternal fraud and insider riskAnti-fraud by designOperator responsibility and customer protectionCross-industry collaboration Time Stamps 00:00 Intro music 00:12 Africa’s scam operations have industrialised 04:09 What keeps fraud leaders awake at night? 04:44 Ethiopia’s evolving fraud landscape 08:43 Identity theft and the innocent customer 10:54 The human factor in customer-facing fraud 11:24 Why operators must take greater responsibility 13:43 The machine era of spam and fraud 18:05 AI call scanning and verified business communication 19:40 Smishing and sophisticated account takeover in Ethiopia 23:21 Data-driven controls for mobile-money fraud 24:05 Connecting GSM and mobile-money fraud 27:52 Business impersonation, investment scams and credibility engineering 30:49 Outro music The central takeaway is that customer-facing fraud is no longer only a fraud-management or revenue-assurance issue. It is a customer-experience, brand-trust, financial-inclusion and digital-economy issue. Protecting customers requires shared responsibility across telecom operators, mobile-money providers, banks, fintechs, platforms, regulators, agents, employees and customers.

    Episode 189 - Africa’s Scam Economy Has Industrialized: What Telecom Operators Must Do Next

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This is pure digital passion, the podcast of Moses Kemibaro, one of Kenya's and Africa's leading digital marketers, techbloggers, and technology analysts. Join me for insightful interviews and commentaries on all things digital from across the African continent on a myriad of compelling topics and themes. I share Africa's stories of pure digital passion!

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