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Six Pixels of Separation Podcast

Six Pixels of Separation - Mitch Joel’s weekly conversation with business leaders, thinkers, innovators and cultural icons. The show is about insights and provocations on brands, consumers, technology, business and how connected we’ve all become.

  1. SPOS #973 – Alison Wood Brooks On The Science Of Great Conversations

    2 DAYS AGO

    SPOS #973 – Alison Wood Brooks On The Science Of Great Conversations

    Welcome to episode #973 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Alison Wood Brooks is one of the leading voices in understanding the science of human conversation, and her latest book, Talk - The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves, explores just how complex, delicate, and transformative our daily interactions can be. As a professor at Harvard Business School, Alison has spent years studying the psychology behind dialogue - why some conversations feel effortless while others fall flat, how we navigate social dynamics, and why even the simplest exchanges can shape our relationships and success. In our conversation, we explore the difference between Q&A and true dialogue, the often-overlooked art of reading the room, and the skills that can make or break an interaction. Alison shares insights on the role of AI in companionship, the way egocentrism naturally seeps into our conversations, and why teaching conversational skills is more critical than ever in a digital-first world. We also discuss the post-Covid social shift, the importance of face-to-face interactions, and how conversational missteps - something we all experience - can actually strengthen relationships if handled the right way. Her TALK Maxims (Topics, Asking, Levity, Kindness) offer a simple yet powerful framework for improving everyday communication, whether in personal relationships, business, or even in navigating difficult discussions. If you’ve ever struggled with what to say, when to say it, or how to be a better conversationalist, this episode will help you rethink the way you talk... and listen. Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 1:06:51. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Alison Wood Brooks. Talk - The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves. Check out her band: The Lights Follow Alison on Instagram. Follow Alison on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Chapters: (00:00) - Introduction to Conversation Science. (02:49) - The Dynamics of Q&A vs. Conversation. (05:58) - The Art of Eavesdropping and Voyeurism in Conversations. (08:53) - Emerging Science of Conversation. (11:59) - AI and Human Conversations. (15:06) - The Role of AI in Companionship. (18:01) - Egocentrism in Conversations. (20:46) - Alpha and Beta Dynamics in Conversations. (23:51) - Teaching Conversation Skills. (27:07) - Conversational Toggling in a Digital Age. (32:00) - The Fleeting Nature of In-Person Connections. (35:06) - The Impact of AI on Human Interaction. (38:58) - Navigating Post-Covid Social Dynamics. (43:03) - The Importance of Reading the Room. (48:03) - Breaking the Pace in Conversations. (52:01) - The Value of Topic Preparation. (57:02) - Foot-in-Mouth Moments and Repair Strategies.

    1h 7m
  2. SPOS #972 – Tom Chatfield On How Tech Has Made Us What We Are

    FEB 23

    SPOS #972 – Tom Chatfield On How Tech Has Made Us What We Are

    Welcome to episode #972 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Dr. Tom Chatfield is one of those rare thinkers who seamlessly blends philosophy, technology, and human experience, making sense of the rapidly evolving digital landscape. As an author, tech philosopher, and educator, his work - including his latest book, Wise Animals - How Technology Has Made Us What We Are - explores how humans and technology have co-evolved over thousands of years, shaping not only how we work and communicate but how we think and perceive the world. Tom is also the author of How To Think, This Is Gomorrah, Critical Thinking and many others. In this conversation, Tom challenges the conventional narrative that technology is either a savior or a threat, arguing instead that it is deeply intertwined with who we are as a species. We explore the biases embedded in our digital tools, the generational shifts in how technology is understood, and the ethical dilemmas posed by AI’s increasing influence on work, productivity, and decision-making. Tom also shared why soft skills - like empathy, collaboration, and critical thinking - are becoming more valuable than ever in an age where AI can replicate knowledge-based tasks but struggles with human connection. He reflected on the growing skepticism toward experts, the rising noise in legal and regulatory environments, and the fundamental need for doubt and self-awareness in how we design and interact with intelligent systems. Thought-provoking, insightful, and refreshingly nuanced, this conversation is for anyone who wants to engage with technology more thoughtfully, rather than passively accepting or fearing it. Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 1:06:50. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Dr. Tom Chatfield. Wise Animals - How Technology Has Made Us What We Are. How To Think. This Is Gomorrah. Critical Thinking. Follow Tom on Substack. Follow Tom on X. Follow Tom on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Chapters: (00:00) - Introduction to Technology Philosophy. (02:58) - The Role of Technology in Human Experience. (06:10) - Generational Perspectives on Technology. (08:54) - The Impact of AI on Work and Productivity. (11:57) - The Evolution of Human Interaction with AI. (15:05) - The Future of Work in an AI-Driven World. (17:48) - The Ethics of AI and Human Value. (20:49) - Navigating the Divide in Access to Technology. (23:49) - The Devaluation of Knowledge Work. (30:51) - The Impact of AI on Knowledge Work. (35:40) - The Value of Human Connection in a Tech-Driven World. (41:45) - Rethinking Professional Education and Skills. (48:08) - Philosophical Perspectives on AI and Technology. (57:28) - Co-evolution with Technology and the Future of Knowledge.

    1h 7m
  3. SPOS #971 – Deborah Perry Piscione On Revolutionizing The Way We Work

    FEB 16

    SPOS #971 – Deborah Perry Piscione On Revolutionizing The Way We Work

    Welcome to episode #971 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Deborah Perry Piscione is no stranger to transformation. As the co-founder and CEO of the Work3 Institute, a thought leader in AI and Web3, and an author, she has spent her career helping organizations navigate the future of business. In our conversation, we explore the bold premise of her latest book, Employment Is Dead - How Disruptive Technologies Are Revolutionizing The Way We Work (with co-author, Josh Drean), which challenges traditional employment models and highlights how AI, automation, and decentralized work are reshaping careers. Deborah, who previously dissected the innovation culture of Silicon Valley in her book, Secrets of Silicon Valley, explains how the workplace power dynamic is shifting, with employees demanding flexibility, purpose, and autonomy. We discuss the evolving gig economy, the rise of portfolio careers, and how younger generations are rejecting outdated corporate structures in favor of more meaningful work. She also shares her insights on the metaverse’s slow but steady evolution, the disruptive potential of cryptocurrency, and the challenges of building engagement in a workforce that increasingly prioritizes social currency over traditional career paths. With businesses on the cusp of a seismic shift, Deborah offers a compelling argument for rethinking work - not as a fixed structure, but as an adaptable, technology-driven ecosystem. If you’ve ever wondered what the future of work really looks like, this episode is one you won’t want to miss. Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 1:01:24. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Deborah Perry Piscione. Employment Is Dead - How Disruptive Technologies Are Revolutionizing The Way We Work. Secrets of Silicon Valley. Work3 Institute. Josh Drean. Follow Deborah on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Chapters: (00:00) - The Future of Work and Decentralized Careers. (03:04) - Shifting Power Dynamics in the Workplace. (05:54) - The Gig Economy: Opportunities and Challenges. (08:56) - Generational Shifts and the Role of Technology. (11:51) - The Impact of Automation and AI on Employment. (14:48) - The Metaverse: Current State and Future Potential. (32:16) - Exploring the Metaverse and Its Applications. (33:45) - Engagement in the Workplace: A Crisis of Meaning. (34:55) - Work-Life Fusion: Rethinking Success. (37:41) - Navigating Career Paths and Expectations. (40:36) - Community as Currency: Shifting Values in Work. (43:45) - The Promise and Perils of Cryptocurrency. (46:52) - Checks and Balances in Technology and Society. (51:48) - The Future of Work: DAOs and Education Reform.

    1h 1m
  4. SPOS #970 – Rohit Bhargava On Non-Obvious Thinking

    FEB 9

    SPOS #970 – Rohit Bhargava On Non-Obvious Thinking

    Welcome to episode #970 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Rohit Bhargava isn’t just a brilliant thinker, entrepreneur and bestselling author - he’s also a close friend who has been a regular guest on this podcast for over fifteen years. Every time we talk, he brings fresh, non-obvious insights that challenge how we see the world. His latest book, Non-Obvious Thinking - How To See What Others Miss, continues this tradition, offering a four-step framework to help people become more observant, uncover insights, and think in a way that stands out. In this conversation, we explore how this mindset applies not just to creativity but also to the ever-changing landscape of publishing and business books. As the founder of Idea Press, Rohit has redefined what it means to be an author, building a hybrid publishing model that gives writers more control, better royalties, and an alternative to traditional publishing. We talked about the increasing volume of business books, the challenge of maintaining quality, and how shorter, more engaging formats are shaping the future of reading. Rohit also shared his perspective on book marketing in a saturated world, the role of curation in cutting through noise, and the importance of managing attention in an age of constant distraction. Beyond publishing, we dove into the broader theme of Non-Obvious Thinking - why we need to be open-minded, embrace different perspectives, and push back against the confirmation bias that dominates so much of modern discourse. It’s always a pleasure catching up with Rohit, and this podcast is no exception. If you’re looking for smarter ways to navigate business, creativity, and the way you absorb information, this one’s for you. Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 1:02:23. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Rohit Bhargava. Non-Obvious Thinking - How To See What Others Miss. Idea Press. Non-Obvious Thinker Newsletter Non-Obvious Guides. Follow Rohit on X. Follow Rohit on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Chapters: (00:00) - The Evolution of Idea Press and Independent Publishing. (03:03) - The Hybrid Publishing Model Explained. (05:57) - The Changing Landscape of Business Books. (09:02) - Quality vs. Quantity in Business Literature. (12:02) - The Role of Authors and Writing Quality. (15:03) - Trends in Book Formats and Reader Engagement. (18:02) - The Audiobook Dilemma. (20:52) - Emerging Themes in Business Literature. (23:59) - The Future of Book Marketing and Reader Engagement. (32:17) - Innovative Book Marketing Strategies. (35:03) - The Art of Curation in Content Creation. (38:56) - Non-Obvious Thinking: Becoming Your Best Self. (45:10) - The Science of Attention and Distraction. (49:29) - Capturing and Absorbing Information Effectively. (51:27) - Navigating Confirmation Bias. (54:50) - Expanding Horizons in a Divisive World.

    1h 2m
  5. SPOS #969 – Michael Horn On Making Progress In Your Career

    FEB 2

    SPOS #969 – Michael Horn On Making Progress In Your Career

    Welcome to episode #969 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Michael B. Horn is one of those rare people who seamlessly bridges the worlds of education, innovation, and career development. As the co-founder of the Clayton Christensen Institute and a teacher at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, Michael has dedicated his career to reimagining how we learn and work. He’s the author of several transformative books, including Disrupting Class, From Reopen To Reinvent, and his latest, Job Moves - 9 Steps For Making Progress In Your Career. In this conversation, Michael shares his thoughtful approach to helping individuals and organizations adapt to a world where education and careers are anything but linear. We discussed how his latest book applies the “Jobs to Be Done” theory to career moves, offering a framework that helps people align their work with their lives in a more meaningful way. Michael’s passion for unlocking potential shines through as we explore the challenges minimum wage workers face, the evolving role of AI in the workplace, and the need for more experiential learning in education. He also reflects on the legacy of his mentor, Clayton Christensen, and how his ideas continue to shape modern business and learning. What struck me most was Michael’s grounded optimism - he’s not just thinking about the future of work... he’s actively working to make it more accessible, human, and fulfilling. If you’re grappling with a career change, wondering how education needs to evolve, or just curious about how to thrive in an unpredictable world, this episode is full of insight and inspiration. Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 1:03:06. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Michael B. Horn. Job Moves - 9 Steps For Making Progress In Your Career. From Reopen To Reinvent. Disrupting Class. Clayton Christensen Institute. Harvard Graduate School of Education. Follow Michael on X. Follow Michael on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Chapters: (00:00) - Navigating Career Choices in a Fluid Landscape. (02:58) - The Evolution of Education and Work. (06:06) - Understanding Learning Differences and Accommodations. (08:51) - The Impact of Traditional Education on Career Paths. (12:10) - The Value of Trades and Alternative Pathways. (14:50) - Rethinking Professional Training in Healthcare. (17:58) - The Role of Entrepreneurship in Modern Careers. (21:09) - The Importance of Self-Discovery in Career Development. (23:55) - Job Mobility and Employee Engagement. (26:54) - The Challenges of Individual Needs in the Workplace. (31:39) - Navigating Individual Needs in Organizations. (35:40) - The Challenges of Minimum Wage and Job Mobility. (41:49) - The Impact of AI on Job Markets. (51:03) - Lessons from Clayton Christensen.

    1h 3m
  6. SPOS #968 – Mehak Gandhi On The Science Of Growth And Lasting Customer Relationships

    JAN 26

    SPOS #968 – Mehak Gandhi On The Science Of Growth And Lasting Customer Relationships

    Welcome to episode #968 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Mehak Gandhi, co-author of Triple Fit Strategy - How To Build Lasting Customer Relationships And Boost Growth (along with Christoph Senn), is the Head of Research at Valuecreator in Switzerland, where she designs and implements B2B growth accelerator programs and next-generation sales strategies. With extensive experience conducting research and training for global giants like Allianz, Maersk, Konica Minolta, and Schneider Electric, Mehak has developed a reputation for merging data-driven insights with actionable strategies that drive sustainable growth. In our conversation, Mehak outlined the transformative potential of the Triple Fit Strategy, a framework designed to move beyond transactional buyer-seller dynamics toward deep, collaborative partnerships that create exponential value (which includes over 10,000 case studies). Drawing on decades of research and her work with companies like Microsoft, Coca-Cola, and GE, Mehak emphasizes the importance of aligning planning, execution, and resources to foster mutual growth. She shared powerful insights into how businesses can operationalize collaboration, simplify complex relationships, and engage customers early to drive innovation and new revenue streams. We also explored the critical balance between human decision-making and AI in optimizing these strategies, alongside the legal and operational challenges of fostering trust and data sharing in supplier-customer partnerships. Mehak’s passion for helping businesses adopt a 360° customer-centric approach is evident as she shares examples of companies unlocking millions of dollars in opportunities through collaboration. If you’ve ever wondered how to future-proof your sales processes while building lasting partnerships, this episode is a must-listen. Enjoy the conversation! Running time: 59:35. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Mehak Gandhi. Triple Fit Strategy - How To Build Lasting Customer Relationships And Boost Growth. Valuecreator. Follow Mehak on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Chapters: (00:00) - Introduction to Mehak Gandhi and Triple Fit Strategy. (02:50) - The Importance of Customer Centricity. (06:01) - Aligning Business Strategies for Mutual Growth. (08:57) - Navigating Supplier-Customer Relationships. (12:13) - Sustainability and Long-Term Partnerships. (15:06) - The Role of Collaboration in Business. (17:48) - Innovating Through Customer Engagement. (20:52) - Operationalizing the Triple Fit Strategy. (23:53) - The Complexity of Legal and Data Sharing. (27:01) - The Future of Business Relationships. (30:09) - The Role of Human Decision-Making in AI. (32:27) - Visionaries and Market Disruption. (35:20) - Building Relationships in Business. (37:49) - Navigating Procurement Challenges. (40:26) - Transitioning from Transactional to Collaborative Relationships. (42:04) - The Service vs. Product Paradigm. (45:13) - Unlocking Value through Service Innovation. (46:47) - Sustaining Partnerships Over Time. (48:29) - Managing Change in Business Relationships. (52:31) - Growth in an Uncertain Economy.

    1 hr
  7. SPOS #967 – Roland Allen On Notebooks And Thinking

    JAN 19

    SPOS #967 – Roland Allen On Notebooks And Thinking

    Welcome to episode #967 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Roland Allen is a publisher and author based in the UK, with a background in book and notebook publishing. He studied at Manchester University and has written on diverse subjects, including bicycles and bread. Roland has maintained a personal diary for decades and has a particular fondness for stationery. In this conversation, we delved into his latest book, The Notebook - A History of Thinking on Paper, which explores the profound impact of notebooks on creativity and thought processes throughout history (and, wow, I do love notebooks and I loved this book!). Roland shares his insights into how the tactile act of writing engages our senses uniquely, fostering clarity and connection in an increasingly digital world. We discuss the psychological benefits of journaling, the resurgence of interest in handwriting, and how notebooks continue to inspire productivity and joy. His reflections on the utilitarian origins of notebooks and the personal relationships individuals have with their stationery offers a fresh perspective on the value of putting pen to paper. If you've ever appreciated the feel of a fresh notebook or the act of writing by hand (or if you can’t walk by a stationary store and not go in... like me), this episode provides a deeper understanding of an often-overlooked tool that has shaped human thought for centuries, and may hold the answer to how you can improve your skills and knowledge in 2025. Enjoy the conversation! Running time: 1:06:50. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Roland Allen. The Notebook - A History of Thinking on Paper,. Follow Roland on LinkedIn. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Chapters: (00:00) - The Invisible World of Notebooks. (02:46) - The Ritual of Writing. (06:10) - Digital vs. Analog: The Writing Experience. (09:01) - The Evolution of Notebooks. (11:49) - Cultural Perspectives on Writing. (15:07) - The History and Purpose of Notebooks. (18:12) - The Future of Handwriting. (21:04) - The Impact of Technology on Writing. (24:08) - The Art of Note-Taking. (27:08) - The Journey of Writing a Book. (37:25) - The Purpose of Notebooks: Thinking vs. Writing. (39:00) - Exploring the World of Stationery. (40:20) - Notebook Preferences: A Personal Journey. (44:40) - The Craft of Writing: Learning from Masters. (46:19) - The Value of Libraries and Reading. (48:27) - The Intrigue of Personal Notebooks. (52:07) - The Superpower of Reading and Note-Taking. (56:44) - Trends in Notebooks and Stationery.

    1h 7m
  8. SPOS #966 – Christine Rosen On The Extinction Of Experience

    JAN 12

    SPOS #966 – Christine Rosen On The Extinction Of Experience

    Welcome to episode #966 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Christine Rosen is a thinker whose work boldly interrogates the intersections of history, technology, and culture, and she’s someone I’ve long admired for her incisive intellect. Christine’s new book, The Extinction of Experience - Being Human In A Disembodied World, invites us to reflect on what we lose when technology mediates so much of our lives. In this conversation, we unpacked the book’s provocative thesis: that the human experiences most fundamental to our identity - face-to-face connection, serendipity, patience, and risk - are at risk of atrophy in an increasingly virtual world. Christine, whose earlier works include Preaching Eugenics, My Fundamentalist Education, The Feminist Dilemma, and Acculturated, takes a nuanced, critical stance on technology. She acknowledges its benefits but urges caution about its unintended consequences. Together, we explore the blurred boundaries between virtual and real, the societal implications of a two-tier care system, and the surprising resurgence of physical community spaces like libraries and malls post-pandemic. Christine’s historical perspective, informed by her background as a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and her experience as a columnist for Commentary, lends depth to her argument that we must actively choose to reclaim experiences that ground us in the physical world. She shared insights on how tools like AI might aid healthcare but warned of the risks when they replace human judgment in areas like justice or personal relationships. Her reflections on community, loneliness, and the enduring importance of “third spaces” remind us that connection is essential to our humanity. If you’ve ever wondered how to balance the convenience of technology with the richness of lived experience, this conversation is a must-listen. Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 1:06:40. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on Twitter. Here is my conversation with Christine Rosen. The Extinction of Experience - Being Human In A Disembodied World. Preaching Eugenics. My Fundamentalist Education. The Feminist Dilemma. Acculturated. American Enterprise Institute. Commentary. This week's music: David Usher 'St. Lawrence River'. Chapters: (00:00) - Introduction to Christine Rosen and Her Work. (02:57) - Defining Humanity in a Technological Age. (06:06) - The Ambivalence of Technology: Optimism vs. Skepticism. (09:09) - The Role of Critical Questions in Technology Development. (11:58) - Balancing Innovation and Regulation in AI. (15:00) - AI in Healthcare vs. AI in Defense. (18:07) - The Impact of Technology on Human Connection. (20:56) - The Deterioration of Local Communities. (24:05) - The Consequences of Living in Public. (26:53) - Navigating Online Dating in a Digital World. (30:02) - The Importance of In-Person Connections. (39:00) - The Role of Technology in Human Connection. (42:29) - Navigating Confirmation Bias. (45:50) - Collective Action and Community Solutions. (49:12) - The Challenge of Parenting in a Digital Age. (51:06) - The Evolution of Writing and Communication. (55:02) - Reading Trends Among Youth. (01:00:59) - Physical Challenges and Personal Growth.

    1h 7m
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