The Podcast for Real-Life Heroines

Susanna Liller
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Welcome to The Podcast for Real-Life Heroines. I'm your host Susanna Liller, and I'll be your guide as you take your journey from ordinary to extraordinary, as the true heroine in your own life.

  1. 1d ago

    Season 7 Episode 11 - Interview with Elaine Labourel

    In this special “threshold episode,” Susanna opens a new chapter for the podcast, with guest co-hosts joining her to bring their own perspectives and guests to the conversation. Elizabeth Hale, one of the women Susanna trained to bring the heroine’s journey into her own teaching, steps forward as the first co-host and introduces her friend Elaine Labourel, a retired Anglican priest, lifelong spiritual seeker, and creative soul. Elaine shares how she turned to the fairy tale of Cinderella when she found herself sitting in the ashes of a long marriage, and how the pumpkin, the mice, the ballgown, and the glass slipper helped her rediscover who she really is. Together, Elaine, Susanna, and Elizabeth explore the heroine’s journey through the story, including the call, the threshold guardians, and the dragon. They also hear the letter Elaine wrote to herself from her inner Fairy Godmother. It’s a reminder that the small, ordinary parts of our lives can carry us further than we think, and that the door was never locked. Episode Highlights 00:44 – Susanna introduces the new co-host format, and welcomes Elizabeth Hale as the first guest co-host 03:54 – Elizabeth introduces Elaine Labourel, retired Anglican priest and lifelong spiritual seeker 05:56 – Elaine shares how she received "the call" and how fairytales helped jumpstart her heroine's journey 11:40 – Elaine discusses Cinderella and how ordinary things and “small” pastimes can pull us forward 22:31 – Elaine delves into "the prince within": exploring the anima and animus, and a childhood wish to live with a man’s freedom 29:31 – Elaine reads the letter from her Fairy Godmother: “Don’t mistake waiting for loyalty, don’t mistake endurance for love” 41:15 – Elaine shares a message she hopes the listeners will take with them on their own journeys Get To Know Elaine Labourel Elaine Labourel is a retired Anglican priest, a lifelong spiritual seeker, and a creative soul based in France. A member of the Belle Cour Sisterhood, she explores the connections between spirituality, myth, creativity, and the inner life. Fascinated by archetypes and fairy tales, she delights in discovering how ancient stories illuminate our own journeys of transformation. Through writing, art, weaving, and contemplative exploration, Elaine continues to deepen her relationship with herself and the divine, embracing the freedom and mystery of continually becoming more fully herself. Get To Know Co-Host Elizabeth Hale Elizabeth Hale is the head of schooling-in-training for the School for Real Life Heroines. A Montessori-trained teacher, circle facilitator, HeartMath resilience trainer, community herbalist, and mother, she has worked with children and families in many different settings and stages of life. She describes herself as a woods wanderer who loves wild places from the ocean to the mountains, deep conversation, and celebrating relationships. Coming Soon: The Guide for Real Life Heroines A handbook for trusting yourself, navigating change, and creating a life that is truly your own. Get on the list for early access here! Connect with Susanna Here Watch The Podcast For Real Life Heroines On YouTube Heroine's Journey Map Book A Free Discovery Call With Susanna Learn How To Get What You Want With Just A Circle Follow On Facebook Follow On Instagram Follow On Twitter Start Your Own Heroine's Journey

    Season 7 Episode 11 - Interview with Elaine Labourel

  2. Oct 5

    Season 7 Episode 10 - Interview with Seamus McGoldrick

    In this fascinating, mythic, and surprisingly tender episode, Susanna talks with Seamus McGoldrick — surfer, musician, and author — about ancient goddesses, the sacred feminine, and what it means to wake up stories that have been buried for thousands of years. Known in Irish surfing circles as "Shambles," Seamus is a three-time Irish National Bodyboarding Champion and the author of Waking Maeve, a book born from his lifelong fascination with the Neolithic monuments of his native Sligo and the legendary warrior queen said to be buried beneath them. Susanna and Seamus trace the layered history of Queen Maeve, from ancient goddess of sovereignty to Iron Age warrior queen. Together they explore how her story echoes the very journey this podcast is built around: women claiming their voice, their agency, and their place as the main character of their own lives. Seamus reflects on the matriarchal threads woven through Celtic mythology, the shift that came with the Norman invasion, and why he believes reconnecting with these old stories could help restore a balance the modern world has lost. Equal parts history lesson and heart-to-heart, this conversation is a reminder that some of the oldest stories we have may hold exactly what we need right now. Episode Highlights 00:49 – Introducing Seamus McGoldrick: surfer, musician, author, and three-time Irish National Bodyboarding Champion 05:00 – Seamus discusses where he grew up, the ancient monument atop Knocknarea, and the legend that Queen Maeve is buried beneath it. 07:09 – Seamus helps unpack who Queen Maeve really was — goddess, warrior queen, or both? 11:00 – Susanna and Seamus explore the triple goddess: the maiden, the warrior queen, and the Cailleach, and what they reveal about how ancient Celtic culture honored women. 30:20 – Why Seamus named his book Waking Maeve and what the "archetype of Queen Maeve" means for women today. 44:37 – Seamus shares his closing message and what he wants the audience to take away from his talk with Susanna: embrace mythology with two arms. Get To Know Seamus McGoldrick Seamus McGoldrick, known in Irish surfing circles as "Shambles," is a writer, musician, surf coach, and owner of Sligo Surf Experience. A three-time Irish National Bodyboarding Champion, Seamus once studied physics at Trinity College Dublin before falling in love with surfing and competing for Ireland on the world stage — eventually taking on Hawaii's legendary Pipeline after recovering from a near career-ending accident. Raised in the village of Strandhill beneath Knocknarea, home to the ancient monument said to hold the grave of Queen Maeve, Seamus has spent years delving into the folklore and mythology of his native Sligo. That lifelong fascination became his book, Waking Maeve, now in its second printing, which explores the layered history of Queen Maeve alongside the ancient megaliths and passage tombs of Ireland's northwest. Connect With Seamus Website Instagram Connect with Susanna Here Watch The Podcast For Real Life Heroines On YouTube Heroine's Journey Map Book A Free Discovery Call With Susanna Learn How To Get What You Want With Just A Circle Follow On Facebook Follow On Instagram Follow On Twitter Start Your Own Heroine's Journey

    Season 7 Episode 10 - Interview with Seamus McGoldrick

  3. Sep 7

    Season 7 Episode 9 - Interview with Amanda Gore

    In this thoughtful and inspiring episode, Susanna talks with Amanda Gore about what it truly means to choose joy, connection, and love in our everyday lives. An internationally renowned keynote speaker, author, and founder of The Joy Project, Amanda shares how her own heroine’s journeys through professional success, financial loss, heartbreak, divorce, and starting over in new countries have shaped the wisdom she now teaches. Together, Susanna and Amanda explore the ways our unconscious thoughts influence how we experience the world and how learning to pause can give us the freedom to choose how we respond. They discuss Amanda’s PAIJE framework, the importance of self-worth, gratitude as a pathway to joy, and the ways fear and judgment can keep us disconnected from ourselves and others. Amanda also shares the story behind her book Joy Is an Inside Job, her journey toward inner peace, and the profound lesson she learned when losing her voice and hearing forced her to slow down and simply be. Episode Highlights 00:45 – Introducing Amanda Gore and her work with joy, connection, and emotional intelligence. 04:19 – Amanda shares how she went from physiotherapist to internationally renowned keynote speaker. 12:13 – Amanda explains PAIJE: perception, assumption, interpretation, judgment, and expectation, and how our unconscious thinking shapes our experience. 24:21 – Amanda explains her metaphor of the “malware” that can corrupt the source code of who we are, as well as the story of how Joy Is an Inside Job came to her after the death of her mother. 41:39 – Amanda shares the one message she hopes listeners remember: consciously choose love over fear. Get To Know Amanda Gore Amanda Gore is an internationally renowned keynote speaker, author, and founder of The Joy Project. For more than 30 years, she has combined humor, storytelling, neuroscience, and emotional intelligence to help people create greater joy, connection, trust, and resilience in their lives and workplaces. A member of the Speaker Hall of Fame, Amanda is also the author of Joy Is an Inside Job, a book that explores the beliefs, fears, and patterns that can keep us disconnected from the joy within us. Her work encourages people to become more conscious of their thoughts, pause before reacting, choose love over fear, and create deeper connection with themselves and others. Connect With Amanda The Joy Project Amanda Gore TV Instagram Email: amanda@amandagore.com Connect with Susanna Here Watch The Podcast For Real Life Heroines On YouTube Heroine's Journey Map Book A Free Discovery Call With Susanna Learn How To Get What You Want With Just A Circle Follow On Facebook Follow On Instagram Follow On Twitter Start Your Own Heroine's Journey

    Season 7 Episode 9 - Interview with Amanda Gore

  4. Aug 10

    Season 7 Episode 8 – Interview with Lani Peterson

    In this insightful and deeply reflective episode, Susanna talks with Lani Peterson about the transformative power of story and how the narratives we carry shape our understanding of ourselves and our lives. As a psychologist, storyteller, and story consultant, Lani shares how more than 25 years of working with people from all walks of life has revealed that every person is living a hero's or heroine's journey, whether they realize it or not. Together, Susanna and Lani explore how stories become tools for healing, connection, and personal growth. They discuss the importance of pausing to reflect on life's unexpected twists, recognizing the gifts we've gained through our experiences, and choosing to move forward with greater intention. This conversation is a reminder that our stories are not simply records of what has happened to us. They are living guides that help us discover our strengths, embrace our purpose, and step courageously into whatever comes next. Episode Highlights 00:48 – Introducing Lani Peterson and her work as a psychologist, storyteller, and story consultant. 03:12 – Lani explains why every person is living a hero's or heroine's journey, as well as the importance of pausing to reflect on life's experiences in order to recognize the strengths and gifts we've gained along the way. 11:02 – Lani shares how storytelling creates healing, connection, and transformation across diverse communities, from healthcare professionals to those experiencing homelessness. 27:23 – Lani explains why owning and sharing our stories allows us to better understand ourselves and connect more deeply with others. 35:16 – Lani shares the message she hopes listeners will remember: pause, reflect, claim your gifts, and move forward with intention. Get To Know Lani Peterson Lani Peterson is a psychologist, storyteller, story consultant, and coach who has spent more than 25 years exploring the power of story as a catalyst for transformation. Throughout her career, she has helped CEOs, physicians, scientists, mental health professionals, clergy, educators, military families, incarcerated individuals, and people experiencing homelessness discover the deeper meaning within their personal and professional stories. Drawing on psychology, narrative practice, mythology, and the Hero's Journey, Lani helps individuals recognize the strengths they've developed through life's challenges and use their stories as tools for healing, connection, and growth. Her work invites people to pause, reflect on where they've been, and intentionally choose how they want to move forward. Connect With Lani Peterson Website Connect with Susanna Here Watch The Podcast For Real Life Heroines On YouTube Heroine's Journey Map Book A Free Discovery Call With Susanna Learn How To Get What You Want With Just A Circle Follow On Facebook Follow On Instagram Follow On Twitter Start Your Own Heroine's Journey

    Season 7 Episode 8 – Interview with Lani Peterson

  5. Jul 6

    Season 7 Episode 7 - Interview with Alyson Shelton

    In this warm, reflective, and deeply moving episode, Susanna talks with Alyson Shelton about the power of storytelling, reclaiming our voices, and the quiet courage it takes to believe our stories are worth telling. An award-winning screenwriter, essayist, and editor, Alyson shares the origin story of her beloved Instagram Live series, Where I'm From — inspired by George Ella Lyon's iconic poem of the same name — and how a simple invitation during the pandemic grew into a gathering of over 250 writers and poets sharing pieces of who they are. Together, Susanna and Alyson explore the idea of the heroine's journey as it played out in Alyson's own life: answering an unexpected call, stepping out of the background and into her voice, and building a space defined by generosity rather than gatekeeping. Alyson reflects on her friendships with George Ella Lyon and writer Fred Furst, the surprising vulnerability she's witnessed even in seasoned, published writers, and the deep interconnectedness she feels with every story she receives. Full of honesty, humor, and hard-won wisdom, this conversation is a gentle reminder that no story (including your own) is too ordinary to matter. Episode Highlights 00:41 – Introducing Alyson Shelton and her work as a screenwriter, essayist, and editor 03:48 – How Alyson's Instagram Live series, Where I'm From, began — inspired by George Ella Lyon's poem and a prompt from Fred Furst 15:36 – Susanna and Alyson trace the heroine's journey through Alyson's own "ordinary life" and the call that led her to start the project 20:30 – What Alyson has learned from hosting 250+ writers: the power of invitation, and why she refuses to gatekeep 30:31 – The one message Alyson hopes listeners carry with them Get To Know Alyson Shelton Alyson Shelton (she/her) is a Writer, Editor & Host. She is an award-winning screenwriter and essayist whose work has been widely published, including in The New York Times and Ms. Her writing is anthologized in collections such as No Contact: Writers on Estrangement and The Loss of a Lifetime: Grieving Siblings Share Stories of Love, Loss, and Hope, which she also co-edited. Alyson is best known for her Instagram Live series inspired by George Ella Lyon's poem "Where I'm From", where she has hosted over 250 writers and poets — many of whom don't consider themselves writers until she helps them find that voice. She is also the writer and creator behind the comic book Reburn, featuring heroine Mae, illustrated by Elise McCall and colored by painter Hillary Jenkins. Alyson believes deeply in the power of invitation, the freedom that comes from resisting gatekeeping, and the idea that every single person's story is extraordinary. Connect With Alyson Website Substack Where I'm From Instagram Buy Now: The Loss of a Lifetime: Grieving Siblings Share Stories of Love, Loss, and Hope Kickstarter: Reburn Volume 1: Our Lady May Connect with Susanna Here Watch The Podcast For Real Life Heroines On YouTube Heroine's Journey Map Book A Free Discovery Call With Susanna Learn How To Get What You Want With Just A Circle Follow On Facebook Follow On Instagram Follow On Twitter Start Your Own Heroine's Journey

    Season 7 Episode 7 - Interview with Alyson Shelton

  6. Jun 1

    Season 7 Episode 6 - Interview with Rhayne Thomas

    In this joyful, heartfelt, and inspiring episode, Susanna talks with Rhayne Thomas about following your passions, embracing what makes you unique, and finding ways to bring light into the lives of others. A blues singer, actor, author, breast cancer survivor, and lifelong advocate, Rhayne shares the remarkable story behind her movement, PrunesAreSexy!, and how a childhood love of prunes evolved into nearly fifty years of fundraising, awareness, and support for cancer survivors around the world. Together, Susanna and Rhayne explore the power of persistence, the importance of surrounding yourself with people who believe in you, and how one conversation can change the course of a life. Rhayne reflects on overcoming a difficult childhood, the unwavering support of her husband, and the countless creative projects she has launched in service of others. Through laughter, storytelling, and plenty of prune enthusiasm, this conversation reminds us that our quirks can become our greatest gifts when we have the courage to share them with the world. Episode Highlights 00:46 – Introducing Rhayne Thomas 03:15 – Rhayne shares the origin story of her lifelong love of prunes and how National Prune Day was born. 06:09 – The evolution of PrunesAreSexy! and how a personal passion became a global fundraising and awareness movement supporting cancer survivors. 16:33 – Susanna and Rhayne share the story of their chance meeting in an airport and the friendship that grew from a single conversation. 21:55 – Rhayne discusses her special-edition PrunesAreSexy! glasses collaboration and discusses using creativity as a force for fundraising and connection. 36:02 – Rhayne reveals the one message she hopes listeners will remember. Get To Know Rhayne Thomas Rhayne Thomas, entertainer, inspirational humorist and breast cancer survivor, born and raised in The Bronx, has been a volunteer spokesperson and fundraiser for cancer and breast cancer since 1976. Born and raised a Bronx, NY girl, Rhayne Tomas has a serious passion for fun, healing, laughter and Prunes. Yes, the fruit! She is a Blues vocalist, actor, author, voluntary spokesperson and fundraiser for cancer/breast cancer. Being grateful and blessed with so many gifts, she has always focused on making others feel alive through her voice and sense of humor, which led her to create her all-encompassing wellness and thought-provoking company, “PrunesAreSexy!” over 15 years ago. Anyone who knows her knows she is “an experience junkie” because she believes the world is full of wonderful things everyone should see, feel, do, and eat, and she doesn't want to miss any opportunity to inspire others who also inspire her! On July 15th, 2021, Rhayne became a 10 year cancer Survivor and that milestone made it very clear to her there’s a lot more work for me to do with her continued Warrior Spirit!! Owner of “PrunesAreSexy!”, “Prunes! Making YOU Run for breast cancer!” and “National Prunes Day, June 15th", Rhayne’s ultimate goal is to inspire through laughter and prunes, her all-time favorite fruit. “People judge it from the outside when all the beauty is on the inside. Like people. If we can move past physical judgments, the world would be so much happier!” Connect With Rhayne PrunesAreSexy! Website Instagram Facebook Email Connect with Susanna Here Watch The Podcast For Real Life Heroines On YouTube Heroine's Journey Map Book A Free Discovery Call With Susanna Learn How To Get What You Want With Just A Circle Follow On Facebook Follow On Instagram Follow On Twitter Start Your Own Heroine's Journey

    Season 7 Episode 6 - Interview with Rhayne Thomas

  7. May 4

    Season 7 Episode 5 - Interview with John P. Schuster

    In this thoughtful and expansive episode, Susanna talks with John P. Schuster about what it truly means to answer your deepest calling and the inner work required to live it. Drawing from decades of experience as a coach, teacher, and author, John shares how his work has evolved from traditional coaching into what he calls “coaching from the mystic core,” a practice rooted in spirituality, presence, and deep inner awareness. Together, Susanna and John explore the connection between inner mastery and outer impact, and why lasting change in the world must begin within. They discuss the role of meditation, intuition, and spiritual practice in helping us quiet the noise of everyday life so we can hear what is calling us forward. This conversation is a powerful reminder that we are not separate from the wisdom we seek. It already lives within us, waiting for us to listen. Episode Highlights 00:47 – Introducing John P. Schuster 04:22 – John shares his journey from traditional coaching into spiritually informed “mystic core” work. 15:58 – John and Susanna explore the concept of inner mastery and outer impact, and the five core energies of purpose, wisdom, love, growth, and self-realization. 31:49 – John shares what he hopes listeners will remember from this conversation. Get To Know John P. Schuster John P. Schuster is a leadership coach, teacher, and author with more than 25 years of experience helping individuals and organizations connect with purpose and create meaningful impact. He has taught at Columbia University and the Hudson Institute, where he has guided leaders and coaches in deepening their work. John is the author of Answering Your Call: A Guide to Living Your Deepest Purpose and continues to explore the intersection of spirituality and coaching through his work with the Mentora Institute. His approach invites people to look within, cultivate presence, and trust the wisdom that emerges from their own inner life. Mentora Institute Connect with Susanna Here Watch The Podcast For Real Life Heroines On YouTube Heroine's Journey Map Book A Free Discovery Call With Susanna Learn How To Get What You Want With Just A Circle Follow On Facebook Follow On Instagram Follow On Twitter Start Your Own Heroine's Journey

    Season 7 Episode 5 - Interview with John P. Schuster

  8. Apr 13

    Season 7 Episode 4 - Interview with Shannon Thompson

    In this insightful episode, Susanna sits down with conflict resolution educator and content creator Shannon Thompson, who shares her transformative journey from education to facilitating meaningful conversations around conflict. Shannon discusses her passion for making complex conflict dynamics accessible through practical communication tools and her experience in mediating high-stakes discussions. Throughout the episode, Shannon articulates the importance of emotional regulation in conflict situations and the necessity of empathy in communication. She reflects on her career transition, addressing the fears and challenges that accompany stepping out of one’s comfort zone. Together, Susanna and Shannon explore how personal growth can emerge from navigating conflict and the courage it takes to continue on one’s journey, no matter how daunting it may seem. Episode Highlights 01:14 – Introducing Shannon Thompson 18:21 – Susanna and Shannon explore the dynamic of conflict resolution in educational settings, particularly IEP meetings. 25:10 – Shannon discusses the importance of empathy and understanding in conflict situations, managing impostor syndrome, and staying persistent through challenging transitions. 35:47 - Shannon shares what she hopes listeners will take away from her conversation with Susanna about the relationship between emotional regulation and effective communication. Get To Know Shannon Thompson Shannon Thompson is a conflict resolution educator dedicated to helping individuals navigate challenging conversations with clarity and confidence. Through her work as a mediator and content creator, she translates complex conflict dynamics into digestible lessons, focusing on practical communication skills that foster understanding and resolution. With a passion for bridging knowledge gaps in conflict resolution, Shannon’s efforts are aimed at empowering everyday people to engage more meaningfully in their personal and professional lives. Shannon's YouTube Channel Connect on LinkedIn Follow Shannon on TikTok Connect with Susanna Here Watch The Podcast For Real Life Heroines On YouTube Heroine's Journey Map Book A Free Discovery Call With Susanna Learn How To Get What You Want With Just A Circle Follow On Facebook Follow On Instagram Follow On Twitter Start Your Own Heroine's Journey

    Season 7 Episode 4 - Interview with Shannon Thompson
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Welcome to The Podcast for Real-Life Heroines. I'm your host Susanna Liller, and I'll be your guide as you take your journey from ordinary to extraordinary, as the true heroine in your own life.

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