The Business of Law with Joshua Baron

Joshua Baron

The Business of Law helps lawyers build thriving practices. Joshua Baron interviews lawyers and industry experts to learn how to market and run a successful law practice. Topics include: how to build referral relationships, how co-counsel relationships can help you take big cases, and how to enjoy practicing law.

  1. 02/26/2025

    The Hour Passes Whether You're Anxious or Not: How to Commit Fully to One Task at a Time

    In this episode, Josh Baron speaks with Natey Ndlovu, a lawyer in the midst of transitioning from firm life to starting her own criminal defense practice. As Natey navigates her final days at her current firm, she shares the overwhelming challenges of managing deadlines, client notifications, and the emotional aspects of making a major career change. Josh offers practical time management insights for knowledge workers and shares his own journey of creating better boundaries around client consultations. Key Takeaways Time Management for Knowledge Workers Time management isn't a problem to "solve" but part of the human conditionKnowledge work can't be measured by the same metrics as factory workLooking at monthly results rather than hourly productivity often provides a better measure of successSometimes activities that don't look productive (like staring out the window) can lead to breakthrough insightsThe Emotional Side of Transitions Leaving a firm often feels like "breaking up" with someone when you know it's not working outThe relief of finally making the decision can be significantManaging transitions involves both practical and emotional challengesBetter Ways to Measure Your Day Instead of counting tasks completed, ask: "Was I engaged? Was I kind?"To-do lists will never be completely finished - making peace with this is essentialSometimes necessary work isn't exciting but still needs to be doneThe Consultation Block Strategy Setting specific times for consultations instead of being always availableHaving staff screen potential clients to ensure fitResults in higher sign-up rates and better preparationAllows you to show up as your best self for client interactionsOvercoming Fear of Setting Boundaries Initial fears about losing business are often unfoundedSetting boundaries can actually improve both client experience and your quality of lifeThe "catastrophizing" mindset often prevents positive practice improvementsMentioned Resources "Four Thousand Weeks" by Oliver Burkeman"Meditations for Mortals" by Oliver Burkeman"Slow Productivity" by Cal NewportAbout Natey Ndlovu Natey is transitioning from an established law firm to launching her own criminal defense practice. Her experience includes working as a public defender. Natey's firm: Cornick Ndlovu, PLChttps://www.virginia-criminal.com/ Connect With Us The Business of Law Podcast: https://businessoflaw.transistor.fm/Josh Baron: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuabaron/Have a topic suggestion or want to be a guest? Email baron.josh@gmail.com

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The Business of Law helps lawyers build thriving practices. Joshua Baron interviews lawyers and industry experts to learn how to market and run a successful law practice. Topics include: how to build referral relationships, how co-counsel relationships can help you take big cases, and how to enjoy practicing law.