The Mayvin Podcast

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Mayvin is a Leadership and Organisation Development (OD) consultancy, founded in 2010. We are based in the South East of the UK and work globally across the public, private and third sectors. Our purpose is to make organisations more successful by helping them to: confront the complexity of organisational life, understand their people & what interests, motivates, worries and inspires them, work with human relationships to create meaningful & sustainable change (change management) and to develop leadership and management practice. We aspire to nurture the human spirit in organisations. We work with people to enable cultural change and build organisational wisdom. #HR #ChangeManagement #LeadershipDevelopment #OrganisationalDevelopment

  1. 6d ago

    Words Create Worlds: what happens to change language on its way down

    Send us Fan Mail Change arrives at the top of a system as transforming, liberating, rewiring. By the time it reaches the people expected to implement it, it is do more and do it faster. Something happens on the way down, and trust is what gets lost in it. Sophie Tidman and Carolyn Norgate on the language we use about change, and what it does to organisations running some of the hardest reform programmes in the country. Recorded after a Mayvin alumni session in June called Useful Weirdness: Practising Change When the Default is More and Faster, with a room made up largely of civil servants. Along the way: a senior leader who described his organisation as a tree and then wanted to pull the branches, war metaphors hiding in words like "digging in", how systems leadership becomes everything-ism, and what it costs to keep curiosity alive in a system that runs on accountability. They land on relational public services as the new language worth watching.   References Antonia Romeo, "A message from the Cabinet Secretary", Civil Service Blog, 20 February 2026: https://civilservice.blog.gov.uk/2026/02/20/a-message-from-the-cabinet-secretary/ Peter Block, The Answer to How Is Yes: Acting on What Matters, Berrett-Koehler, 2002. Institute for Government on the damaged relationship between Civil Servants and Ministers: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publication/trust-lost-ministers-civil-service Greater Manchester Combined Authority, Live Well: https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/what-we-do/live-well/ Cabinet Office Test, Learn and Grow, the £100m public service reform programme focused on relational practice, amongst other things: https://testlearnandgrow.blog.gov.uk/2026/06/18/what-is-test-learn-and-grow/  Bob Marshak, "Managing the Metaphors of Change", Organizational Dynamics 22(1), 1993, pp. 44-56: https://doi.org/10.1016/0090-2616(93)90081-B and "Changing the Language of Change", Strategic Change 11(5), 2002: https://doi.org/10.1002/jsc.604 Vanda Scaravelli, Awakening the Spine, HarperSanFrancisco 1991 (reissued Pinter & Martin, 2011). The exact line is "To absorb the teaching requires infinite time and no ambition." Thanks so much for listening! Keep in touch: Email us on mail@mayvin.co.ukSubscribe to our mailing listVisit our website Follow us on LinkedIn and Twitter

    Words Create Worlds: what happens to change language on its way down
  2. Jun 26

    Whose Anger Is This? — Repression, rage and the discipline of metabolising emotion in work

    Send us Fan Mail What do organisations do with anger? Mostly, they manage it away. It's inconvenient, it's dangerous, it belongs in therapy or the exit interview, not the team meeting. We think that's a mistake.   In this conversation, Sophie and James sit with rage, the grief that usually sits beneath it, and the discipline of metabolising strong feeling rather than suppressing or spilling it. They talk about the reassuring patriarch and the girl boss, two roles that keep everyone else comfortable but at what cost? They reach for the warrior who can hold a clear boundary without going to war, and the hearth fire that needs both containment and air. Prometheus, Joanna Macy's "time of astonishing loss," and the quiet revolutions that don't make the news all find their way in. Two practitioners thinking aloud about how we might build organisations with more room for what we actually feel. Referenced in this episode: Anthea Lawson, How Not to Save the World (Oneworld, 2025), on activism that doesn't recreate what it opposes. Also drawn on: Joanna Macy on astonishing loss, Silvia Federici on joyful activism, Donna Haraway on staying with the trouble and letting each other be "unforgivably wrong," Hannah Arendt on labour as relational, William Blake on righteous anger, and Erin Manning on the minor gesture. Thanks so much for listening! Keep in touch: Email us on mail@mayvin.co.ukSubscribe to our mailing listVisit our website Follow us on LinkedIn and Twitter

    Whose Anger Is This? — Repression, rage and the discipline of metabolising emotion in work
  3. Mar 18

    No More Heroes

    Send us Fan Mail There's a particular kind of leader dominating the world right now — fast, certain, dominant, always with an answer. This podcast asks: what if that's exactly the wrong response to the moment we're in? In this episode, James and Carolyn dig into James's essay No More Heroes — an exploration of how heroic, hyper-masculine leadership has become the default setting for power, and why that matters for all of us. Drawing on Raewyn Connell's work on hegemonic masculinity, Arlie Hochschild's concept of the "second shift," and Anthea Lawson's idea of the "entangled activist," they trace how a particular kind of dominance reproduces itself — in politics, in organisations, and in the people trying hardest to resist it. The conversation takes in communal narcissism, double binds, and Elizabeth Grosz's notion of "the nick of time" — the moment when real change actually becomes possible. This isn't a conversation with conclusions. It's an invitation into the kind of dialogue that's harder to find than it should be: honest, self-implicating, and genuinely curious. James reflects on his own research into masculinities, the paradox of "mansplaining feminism," and what it looks like when a leadership team learns to sit with discomfort rather than whack-a-mole their way through it. The question they keep returning to isn't what's the answer? — it's what does it feel like to stay in the mess, together? Thanks so much for listening! Keep in touch: Email us on mail@mayvin.co.ukSubscribe to our mailing listVisit our website Follow us on LinkedIn and Twitter

    No More Heroes

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Mayvin is a Leadership and Organisation Development (OD) consultancy, founded in 2010. We are based in the South East of the UK and work globally across the public, private and third sectors. Our purpose is to make organisations more successful by helping them to: confront the complexity of organisational life, understand their people & what interests, motivates, worries and inspires them, work with human relationships to create meaningful & sustainable change (change management) and to develop leadership and management practice. We aspire to nurture the human spirit in organisations. We work with people to enable cultural change and build organisational wisdom. #HR #ChangeManagement #LeadershipDevelopment #OrganisationalDevelopment