The Next Five

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The Next Five is the FT’s partner-supported podcast, exploring the future of industries through expert insights and thought-provoking discussions with host Tom Parker. Each episode brings together leading voices to analyse the trends, innovations, challenges and opportunities shaping the next five years in business, technology, health and lifestyle This content is paid for by advertisers and is produced in partnership with the Financial Times’ Commercial Department Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 17h ago

    Systems Rewritten: AI

    Supply and demand. The foundational backbone of market economies. And we’re in the AI era, where demand and supply is being rewritten. Behind this AI revolution, sits a monumental physical buildout and energy demand. Globally, data centre power consumption will double by 2030 toward 945 terawatt-hours, consuming more power than the entire nation of Japan. In some regions the strain is already visible: data centres accounted for more than a fifth of Ireland's national electricity consumption in 2022 and predicted to reach nearly a third this year. Stateside, in 2023, when less powerful models existed, roughly a quarter of electricity use in the US state of Virginia was sucked up by data centres. And yet, McKinsey estimates that there will still be $7tn in global data-centre infrastructure investment by 2030. Then come the Hyperscalers, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft and Oracle who are expected to spend around $670bn on AI-related capital expenditure this year alone, and nearly $800bn next year. The nine largest AI companies have collectively forecast $4.1tn in capital expenditure through to 2030, a trillion dollars more than the total 2025 Capex of all US non-financial companies combined. So looking at systems being rewritten, are we witnessing the greatest industrial re-tooling in human history, or is it all too much to handle? Joining host Tom Parker is Matthew Wright, Chief Strategy Officer at Trade Nation, Walter Pasquarelli, Researcher at Cambridge University and OECD advisor, and Bernard Marr, Author and Futurist. This episode was recorded on 16th September 2026. Sources: FT Resources, McKinsey, Goldman Sachs, OECD, TTMS, IEA, Hungyichen, SIA This content is paid for by Trade Nation and is produced in partnership with the Financial Times' Commercial Department. The views and claims expressed are those of the guests alone and have not been independently verified by The Financial Times. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Systems Rewritten: AI
  2. Sep 29

    Systems Rewritten: Markets

    It’s Q3 2026, the systems that form the global economy are currently being rewritten by the digitally led, fourth industrial revolution and the geopolitical repositioning of power. You’re an investment banker, a portfolio manager or a retail investor looking at trading screens flash red and green. There’s a hive of activity. But what to make of it.The indicators continue to flash, but the signals are conflicting. On one side sits the bull case: real AI driven corporate revenue, strong earnings, record stock prices and the unprecedented cash flow of the Hyperscalers. On the other side sits the bear case: historically concentrated index valuations, an ever widening gap between monetisation and infrastructure spending, and an increasingly fragile global debt landscape.It leaves you, as well as other investors, economists, and central banks asking some big questions: Are we witnessing a durable, tech-driven productivity shift? A once in multiple generation opportunity to transform individual, corporate and societal wealth? Are we re-writing the whole world economy? Or are we sitting giddy and foolishly riding a teflon-coated bubble that will soon burst? Our host Tom Parker is joined by Jon Noble, CEO of Trade Nation, Russ Mould, Investment Director at AJ Bell and Karen Ward, Chief Market Strategist for EMEA at J.P. Morgan Asset Management. This episode was recorded on the 22nd of September 2026. Sources: FT Resources, Harding Loevner, RBC Wealth Management, Slick Charts, Yahoo Finance, Macrotrends, OECD, AI Weekly, IMF, CNBC, IIF. This content is paid for by Trade Nation and is produced in partnership with the Financial Times' Commercial Department. The views and claims expressed are those of the guests alone and have not been independently verified by The Financial Times. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Systems Rewritten: Markets
  3. Sep 24

    Code and Conscience: Intelligence Within and Without Borders

    Sovereignty, by definition, is being updated. Sovereignty 2.0. Under geopolitical tensions, supply chain dependencies and competing regional regulations, the discussion around digital sovereignty is shaping where you're allowed to build, what models you’re allowed to train on, and who's allowed to see the results. Competing lines are being drawn. On one side there are those calling for the democratisation of AI and opening the global doors to innovation. On another is a fragmented map of regional regulations, like the strict mandates of the EU AI Act. Bubbling underneath is the geopolitical chess match, primarily between the US and China, turning data, frontier models and the infrastructure behind them into a matter of national security. All of this offers up some big questions for governments and businesses. One no bigger than this: Can global enterprise innovation really survive in a world of digital borders? Joining host Tom Parker is Stéphane Israël, Managing Director of the AWS European Sovereign Cloud and Digital Sovereignty at AWS, alongside Ali Ustun, Senior Partner from McKinsey’s Middle East Office and co-leader of their global Data and AI Foundations Service Line and Dr. Catherine di Lorenzo, Partner at A&O Shearman. Sources: FT Resources, McKinsey, NASA This content is paid for by AWS and is produced in partnership with the Financial Times' Commercial Department. The views and claims expressed are those of the guests alone and have not been independently verified by The Financial Times. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Code and Conscience: Intelligence Within and Without Borders
  4. Jul 20

    Power Shifts: Data Centres, Diplomatic Tensions and the Energy in Between

    We are living in an era defined by a new kind of power shift. It’s not only measured in borders and markets but in Gigawatts and Gigaflops. Every line of code generated and every industrial process optimised by Artificial Intelligence is tethered to a physical reality: the Data Centre. These silent, humming monoliths have become the new cathedrals of the 21st century, and their appetite is unprecedented. How on earth are we going to be able to create and sustain the power demand of AI?  But this isn't just a technical challenge; it’s a diplomatic powder keg. With the Strait of Hormuz slowly recovering from a blockade and the global energy market reeling from price hikes, we have entered a world of energy realism.  Furthermore, is the machine a monster that will break our grids and stall the transition? Or is it the only navigator capable of steering us through the complexities of a changing climate and the demands of a green transition? Joining the host ,Tom Parker, is José Manuel Durão Barroso, Prime Minister of Portugal from 2002 to 2004 and European Commission President from 2004-2014, alongside Mo Gawdat, a software engineer, entrepreneur, author, podcaster, public speaker and former Chief Business Officer at Google X, and Miguel Stilwell d’Andrade, CEO of EDP, a global energy company. This episode was recorded on July 8th in front of a live audience at EDP Headquarters, LIsbon.  Sources: FT Resources, IEA, CNN, Brookings, CNBC, Fortune, Microsoft, CREA. This content is paid for by EDP and is produced in partnership with the Financial Times' Commercial Department. The views and claims expressed are those of the guests alone and have not been independently verified by The Financial Times. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Power Shifts: Data Centres, Diplomatic Tensions and the Energy in Between
  5. Jul 9

    AI Returns: Separating Value from Hype

    For the past few years, the corporate world has been boldly surfing the initial wave of AI excitement. Boardrooms worldwide have poured hundreds of billions of dollars into Artificial Intelligence, fueled by grand promises of economic revolution. We were told productivity would skyrocket, costs would vanish, and businesses would effortlessly scale. But as the fiscal years roll over, executives are searching for the next wave of provable returns and exploring what they will need to do to catch it and surf it to the beach of productivity gains. The challenge for this next generation of technology, specifically autonomous Agentic AI, is to prove it can deliver measurable, repeatable business value at scale. But unlocking that value requires a total architectural overhaul. It means completely re-engineering the internal human workforce, and ultimately, altering how the customer experiences an organisation from the outside. Giles Bryan, General Manager CX, NiCE, alongside Chris Herbert, Customer Service Director at Openreach and Zack Kass, Author, Podcaster, and former OpenAI Executive, join host Tom Parker. Sources: FT Resources, McKinsey, MIT, Gartner, Guardian This content is paid for by NiCE and is produced in partnership with the Financial Times' Commercial Department. The views and claims expressed are those of the guests alone and have not been independently verified by The Financial Times. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    AI Returns: Separating Value from Hype
  6. Jun 23

    Code and Conscience: The Logic of Trust

    It’s 2026. You’re the CEO of a global bank or the Head of Surgery at a major hospital. An AI system looks at a complex set of volatile market data, or a patient’s decade-long medical history, and gives you a directive. It doesn’t just give you a percentage of probability. It tells you exactly what to do. But here is the catch: If that decision fails, "the machine told me so" won’t hold up in court, in the boardroom, or at a patient’s bedside. For a few years now, we’ve played a game of ‘black box’ roulette, using AI that predicts the future based on the past. But in a world of sudden market shifts and unprecedented global change, the past is no longer a reliable map. We are entering the era of Automated Reasoning. This is the shift from AI that guesses to AI that proves. It’s a market for explainable systems that is set to hit nearly ten billion dollars this year, doubling by 2032. Because today, leaders don’t just need an answer; they need the logic behind it. They need a ‘glass box’ they can trust. Scott Wiltamuth, Director of Software Development for Agentic AI and Automated Reasoning at AWS, alongside Mary Martin, Managing Director and Senior Partner at BCG and Varun Chitkara, Senior Vice President of Global Product & Technology at ADP join host Tom Parker.  Sources: FT Resources This content is paid for by AWS and is produced in partnership with the Financial Times' Commercial Department. The views and claims expressed are those of the guests alone and have not been independently verified by The Financial Times. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Code and Conscience: The Logic of Trust

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The Next Five is the FT’s partner-supported podcast, exploring the future of industries through expert insights and thought-provoking discussions with host Tom Parker. Each episode brings together leading voices to analyse the trends, innovations, challenges and opportunities shaping the next five years in business, technology, health and lifestyle This content is paid for by advertisers and is produced in partnership with the Financial Times’ Commercial Department Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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