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90 Miles from Needles: the Desert Protection Podcast

Chris Clarke
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Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

  1. S5E19: Greenlink West Carves a Costly Path Through Wild Nevada

    2h ago

    S5E19: Greenlink West Carves a Costly Path Through Wild Nevada

    We visit the Amargosa watershed to discuss Greenlink West, a transmission project now under construction that will ship energy from Vegas-area solar facilities to data centers near Reno. This project not only threatens to enable an explosion of data centers in Northern Nevada, but also incentivizes solar developers to concentrate development in largely untouched desert in the Mojave and Great Basin. Key Takeaways: The Greenlink West transmission line is purportedly for energy distribution but appears to primarily serve data centers. NV Energy's developments misalign with publicized renewable energy goals, potentially increasing the burden on natural gas resources. The substation built in the Amargosa Valley indicates the impending rise of massive solar projects, with minimal benefits to local communities. Sallying efforts such as the strengthening of water rights control and military navigation illustrate the complex web of interests surrounding the project. The discourse reflects on broader energy infrastructure expansions, potentially at the expense of Nevada's untouched desert landscape. Notable Quotes: "It used to be the Greenlink was to fight carbon emissions and climate change. But the goal has been becoming more obvious over the years that no, it's just for hyperscale data centers that are going to suck up all of our energy and water." - Laura Cunningham "What if I told you, though, that there was a pretty good chance that data centers are going to seriously damage hundreds of square miles of the wild Mojave and Great Basin deserts in the state of Nevada?" - Chris Clarke "This public land needs to be put to use and it's not for people." - Laura Cunningham "The primary reason that so much solar was associated with Greenlink is because it was supposed to replace fossil fuel plants... they're gonna just go with the flow with whatever market is available." - Kevin Emmerich "To me, this is such an interesting area because 30 air miles that way is Area 51." - Laura Cunningham Resources: Basin and Range Watch Western Watersheds Project Taxonomic revision of the tarantula genus Aphonopelma within the United States Google Maps: Tahoe Reno Industrial Center, NV Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    40 min
  2. S5E18: Desert Heat: Who Really Pays the Price?

    Jun 19

    S5E18: Desert Heat: Who Really Pays the Price?

    In this timely episode, Chris discusses the best ways to avoid becoming a statistic while hiking during desert heat waves. He also points out that the vast majority of people suffering injury and death from extreme heat have little other choice. Migrants, the incarcerated, and outdoor labor all face serious threats from hot weather, with little recourse to protect themselves. That's why state and federal protections for workers and the incarcerated are so crucial. Notable Quotes: "Heat turns minor mistakes into fatal mistakes." "Testosterone is not an electrolyte replacement." Incarcerated people dying from heat injury is a frequent and growing problem that is not tracked in any methodical way." "Hug your dogs." Resources: Podcast Website: 90 Miles from Needles PO Box for Donations and Support: P.O. Box 127, 29 Palms, CA 92277 New analysis provides more evidence that heat standards save lives Leading Healthcare and Public Health Organizations Call for Federal Government to Fast-Track Rules to Protect Workers from Worsening Extreme Heat American Hiking Society's Hot Weather Hiking Guide Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    36 min
  3. S5E17: The Desert Needs Our Voice and We Need Your Help

    Jun 12

    S5E17: The Desert Needs Our Voice and We Need Your Help

    In the wake of a personal loss and a several-week hiatus, our host Chris wonders about the future of the podcast and whether it's doing what we need it to do to get to the people who need to hear it. Listeners are encouraged to take a few easy and free (or cheap) steps to help spread the word of 90 Miles from Needles, including posting reviews on Apple, Spotify, or our website; boosting us on social media, and so many other possible ways to help. A full episode will come your way on 6/19! Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    17 min
  4. Short Update: Explaining Our Brief Hiatus

    Season 5 Trailer

    Short Update: Explaining Our Brief Hiatus

    Content note: sadness. Due to the death of a close family member, we will return on June 5. Listen if you want a few details.  Pet Loss Resources and Support Hemangiosarcoma in dogs Donate to our Fellowship for Desert Reporting Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    9 min
  5. S5E16: The Double Border Wall: A New Environmental Catastrophe

    May 15

    S5E16: The Double Border Wall: A New Environmental Catastrophe

    In this episode, Chris talks with longtime border environmental activist Russ McSpadden about the controversial plans to erect a second border wall on the U.S.-Mexico borde. From the devastating effects on the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge and Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument to the desecration of a sacred geoglyph, Russ details the harm this unnecessary project would cause. The discussion emphasizes the challenges posed by waived environmental and cultural protection laws. Russ also speaks about new hope—the sighting of a jaguar in the Arizona skies offering a glimmer of resilience in the face of destruction. The episode also highlights his new poetry book "Borderlings," depicting life and conservation struggles along the border. Dive into this compelling dialogue for an in-depth understanding of desert conservation challenges and the ongoing fight to protect these precious landscapes from further harm. Key Takeaways: Ecological Impact of Border Wall: The construction of a second border wall poses critical challenges to biodiversity and destroys valuable habitats for numerous species, including the danger of groundwater depletion affecting Quitobaquito Springs. Cultural Destruction Alert: The episode highlights the significant damage done to ancient geoglyphs and indigenous cultural sites, emphasizing the negligence in preserving sacred sites. Legal Loopholes: The Real ID Act allows the waiver of significant environmental laws, facilitating unchecked progression of border wall construction, underscoring a critical need for legislative review. Spotting Conservation Hope: The recent sighting of a new jaguar in Arizona demonstrates the continued, albeit precarious, presence of these majestic creatures in their historical habitats. Personal Reflections in Poetry: Russ McSpadden's book "Borderlings" offers personal insight and reflections on the emotional and environmental turmoil of border regions, combining advocacy with creative expression. Notable Quotes: "These contractors who can't be even trusted to protect cultural sites sitting on the surface can really not be trusted to protect our groundwater sources as well." "We can't sue under the Endangered Species act because the Endangered Species act has been waived." "This area represents this whole circuit of trade networks amongst various peoples... it was a place of exchange and movement and trade." "These are jaguars that are rewilding themselves across the southern border into incredible habitat in their traditional mountain ranges." "The federal government has declared it [the border] an invasion and a sort of a war." Resources: Center for Biological Diversity Russ McSpadden’s Book: "Borderlings" See the Jaguar camera trap video "90 Miles From Needles" Podcast on Facebook, Instagram, Bluesky, and Threads. Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    39 min
  6. S5E15: When Commerce Meets Culture: Art Fairs in the Desert

    May 8

    S5E15: When Commerce Meets Culture: Art Fairs in the Desert

    Episode Summary: In this episode, host Chris Clarke revisits the spirited discussion surrounding the High Desert Art Fair and its portrayal in media. Cindy Bernard and Bernard Leibov engage in a dialogue to address critiques and misconceptions, particularly related to an LA Times article that stirred emotions within the Morongo Basin. Their conversation navigates the crucial roles of artists in economic and cultural spheres while emphasizing the need for nuanced understanding among residents and media alike. As the episode unfolds, Cindy and Bernard elaborate on key differences between various art events like the High Desert Art Fair and Desert X, underscoring their distinct roles in cultural development. They explore the often-contentious relationship between commerce and creativity. Their exchanges offer critical insight into the dynamics of art, community, and conservation in the desert landscapes. Key Takeaways: The High Desert Art Fair has been a growing initiative offering free and subsidized opportunities for local artists, contributing significantly to the community's cultural economy. There is a clear distinction between art fairs, like the High Desert Art Fair, and international biennials, such as Desert X, each serving different purposes and audiences. Addressing public misconceptions, the guests stress the importance of education and nuanced dialogue between new artistic movements and long-standing community members. The podcast underscores the value of local movements toward smart cultural and economic integration, contributing to more balanced community development in desert regions. Cindy Bernard and Bernard Leibov highlight the necessity for creative expression and economic sustainability to coexist in an evolving rural landscape. Notable Quotes: "The desert needs all sorts of people in order to be the economic place that it is. It's an environmental place, but it's also an economic place." — Cindy Bernard "Let's allow people some grace… We're all trespassing in a sense." — Bernard Leibov "Art and culture's existence in desert regions is crucial not only to expression but also to fostering economic opportunities." — Cindy Bernard "We are all adapting and learning, and education about the land and community is crucial for any new player in the desert landscape." — Bernard Leibov Resources: Visit Desert Trumpet for local news coverage in the Morongo Basin. Explore Boxo Projects to learn more about artists' residencies and programs in Joshua Tree. Reference the guidelines for artists on land use developed by key organizations, including the Mojave Desert Land Trust. This engaging dialogue brings to light the complex dynamics of the desert art scene and community interface, packed with insights on fostering sustainable cultural economics. Tune in to the full episode and continue joining us for more explorative discussions on art, culture, and conservation in "90 Miles from Needles." Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    44 min
  7. S5E14: River of Cheeseburgers: The Surprising Water Guzzlers of the West

    May 1

    S5E14: River of Cheeseburgers: The Surprising Water Guzzlers of the West

    In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast," Chris dives deep into the pressing issue of the Colorado River water crisis. As the lifeblood of many thriving cities and fertile fields in the southwestern United States, the Colorado River is now at the heart of a controversial and complex debate over water rights and sustainability in the face of an ongoing drought. But many participants in the debate overlook a surprising product created with the majority of the Colorado River's water. Key Takeaways: The Colorado River is a critical water source facing significant stress due to prolonged drought and historical policy misestimations. Alfalfa and other cattle feed crops consume over 50% of the Colorado River’s water, with substantial portions exported overseas. The 1922 Colorado River Compact's archaic provisions challenge present water rights negotiations, significantly impacting Indigenous and Mexican stakeholders. Environmental change can be driven by altering consumer habits, reducing the demand for water-intensive agricultural products like beef. Efforts are underway to conserve water within the river’s biggest irrigation districts, though solutions require collective policy and personal lifestyle adjustments. Notable Quotes: "The Compact of 1922 vastly overestimated the amount of water that would be in the Colorado River in an average year." "55% of all the water used in the Colorado River Basin is used to irrigate cattle feed crops." "An acre foot of water makes 650 cheeseburgers." Resources: Lake Powell water level crisis sparks emergency response - Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/lake-powell-water-level-crisis-sparks-emergency-response-11849167 Water and Tribes https://www.waterandtribes.org/projects#dataltem-1111lvui The 20 Farming Families Who Use More Water From the Colorado River Than Some Western States - ProPublica https://projects.propublica.org/california-farmers-colorado-river/ How a California Clean Energy Program Became a Boon for Big Dairies https://sentientmedia.org/california-clean-energy-program-boon-for-big-dairies/ California farms face pressure to boost efficiency as water supply declines | PBS News https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/california-farms-face-pressure-to-boost-efficiency-as-water-supply-declines Eliminate the Imperial Irrigation District? - Legal Planet https://legal-planet.org/2025/12/19/eliminate-the-imperial-irrigation-district/ Provisional Upper Colorado River Basin Consumptive Uses and Losses Report: 2016-2020 https://www.usbr.gov/uc/DocLibrary/Reports/ConsumptiveUsesLosses/uc-ucrb-provisionalconsumptiveusesandlosses-2021-2025-508-20251200.pdf Dairy's Large Water Footprint - FoodPrint https://foodprint.org/blog/dairy-water-footprint/Water scarcity and fish imperilment driven by beef production https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1064&context=wffdocs The Colorado River's alfalfa problem - High Country News https://www.hcn.org/articles/landline-the-colorado-rivers-alfalfa-problem/ Western US states fail to agree on plan to manage Colorado River before federal deadline | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/12/colorado-river-agreement-state-negotiators California, the biggest water user in the basin, pitches Colorado River framework • Nevada Current https://nevadacurrent.com/2025/12/17/california-the-biggest-water-user-in-the-basin-pitches-colorado-river-framework/ The Colorado River | Briefing | EESI https://www.eesi.org/briefings/view/021925riversThe Colorado River - Public Policy Institute of California https://www.ppic.org/publication/the-colorado-river/ 90 Miles from Needles: The Desert Protection Podcast website Follow the podcast on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Bluesky, and Threads by searching "90 Miles from Needles". Donate to support the podcast: Text NEEDLES to 53555 or visit 90milesfromneedles.com/donate.   Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    30 min
  8. S5E13: A Partnership Torn Asunder

    Apr 24

    S5E13: A Partnership Torn Asunder

    Episode Artwork by Carl Dennis Buell. In this episode of "90 Miles from Needles," host Chris Clarke shares a poignant and introspective narrative about his early years in the Mojave Desert, weaving together personal reflections and environmental insights. Chris takes listeners on a journey back to 2008, reflecting on his time in the small town of Cima, California, and the unique experiences that have shaped his understanding of desert ecosystems and the vital partnerships within them. Chris explores the intriguing history of the Joshua tree, its interaction with the extinct Shasta ground sloth, and the fascinating complexities of ecological relationships over time. With vivid storytelling, he describes the challenges faced by these iconic desert plants in the face of climate change, highlighting the interconnectedness of species and the profound impact of historical events on modern-day ecology. Key Takeaways: Chris Clarke draws a compelling parallel between his personal journey and the ecological history of the Mojave Desert, emphasizing the importance of storytelling in understanding environmental issues. The episode highlights the critical role that extinct species, like the Shasta ground sloth, played in the dispersal of Joshua tree seeds, illustrating the interconnectedness of past and present ecosystems. Through reflections on climate change, Chris underscores the urgent need for proactive conservation measures to safeguard desert landscapes and their unique biodiversity. The story of Cima, California, serves as a microcosm of broader desert challenges, including invasive species and human impacts on fragile environments. Personal anecdotes and historical insights combine to create an engaging and thought-provoking narrative, reinforcing the value of desert ecosystems and the need for their protection. Notable Quotes: "You know you're in a small town when your post office box number is lower than your age." "Joshua trees are once again likely to die out in at least the southern parts of their range. But this time around, they have no sloths to carry their descendants northward." "Live with someone long enough, and invariably, even after the relationship ends, an image of the other remains behind." "The desert tree must now somehow manage on its own." "This gentleman holds two mutually contradictory beliefs in his head, without noticing the incongruity." Resources: More information on the Shasta ground sloth and its kin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothrotheriops Rodent Mediated Seed Dispersal of Joshua tree (Yucca brevifolia) For those who cherish the intricate narratives of the desert and its enduring mysteries, this episode of "90 Miles from Needles" is a must-listen. Join Chris Clarke as he unravels the threads of time and ecology, offering insights that resonate with both the heart and mind. Stay tuned for more captivating stories and essential discussions on desert conservation in upcoming episodes. Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    36 min
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Join Chris Clarke and a variety of guests as they explore the challenges and opportunities of the American Southwest's fragile ecosystems. Engaging interviews with experts, activists, and advocates on conservation, land management, and environmental justice. Science and sentiment, politics and philosophy, hiking and history, culture and creativity all go into defending the desert. Be forewarned: We are out to recruit you to the cause.

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