When Shift Happens Podcast

Kevin Follonier

I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto. My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3. Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos. Thank you for watching.

  1. 2d ago

    E191: Dan Tapiero: After 35 Years, I Figured Out The Secrets To Getting Rich In Crypto

    Dan Tapiero, founder of $1.7 billion digital asset firm 10T Holdings, returns to reveal the boring secrets to getting rich in crypto that actually work, from why he passed on FTX to the selling rule that keeps you from giving it all back.  After 35 years in investing, including working under legends Stan Druckenmiller, Julian Robertson and Steve Cohen, Dan explains why crypto is the easiest place in the world to make money and the hardest place to keep it. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/ 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.  Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ FOLLOW DAN TAPIERO • Twitter: https://x.com/DTAPCAP • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-tapiero-22b41b191/ FOLLOW 50T HOLDINGS • Twitter: https://x.com/50TFunds • Website: https://www.50tfunds.com/ FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod   Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 0:00 Intro 2:05 What Rich People Understand About Money 3:54 Why Dan Isn't On Instagram 5:18 The Biggest Myths About Getting Rich 6:43 Advice That Keeps People Poor 9:49 How FOMO Becomes The Wrecker Of Wealth 15:25 Partnerships: @Variational @BitwiseInvest 16:17 What People Shouldn't Optimize For In Crypto Today 18:20 Mistakes People Make In Their 20s & 30s 20:54 Knowing When To Sell Is A Skill All Should Learn 25:54 Skill vs Patience In Wealth Building 28:54 Why Do People Sell Their Winners Too Early? 30:46 Partnership: @KASTxyz 31:34 Where We're At Within The Crypto Wealth Cycle 37:20 Dan's Thoughts On Zcash's Progress 39:50 The Best Ways To Bet On Assets Going On Chain 43:01 How Bullish Is Dan On NFTs? 45:38 What Smart People In Crypto Get Wrong Today 48:26 Partnerships: @JupiterExchange @Ethena 49:09 Why All Monetary Value Will Go On Chain 51:21 Where Should A 25-Year-Old Spend Their Energy? 52:57 The Secrets To Getting Rich In Crypto 58:04 What Does A Rich Life Look Like For Dan? 59:58 Closing Thoughts

    E191: Dan Tapiero: After 35 Years, I Figured Out The Secrets To Getting Rich In Crypto
  2. Oct 15

    E190: Raoul Pal: How to Get Rich in Crypto Before AI Changes Everything

    Raoul Pal believes we have roughly four years to build wealth before AI fundamentally changes how the economy works.  THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/ 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.  Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ CONNECT WITH RAOUL👇 Twitter: https://x.com/RaoulGMI Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raoul-pal-real-vision/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raoulgmi YouTube:  @RaoulPalTJM   GET RAOUL PAL’S FREE REPORT AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT DECADE: https://rvtv.io/3YOZZUe CONNECT WITH REAL VISION👇 Twitter: https://x.com/RealVision Website: https://www.instagram.com/realvisiontv YouTube:  @RealVisionPresents FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod   Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 0:00 - Intro 03:31 - The BANANA ZONE that never happened 04:07 - How To Allocate Better In Crypto 04:52 - How Compounding Actually Works 09:25 - Early vs Wrong: How To Tell 12:54 - The Belief Raoul Totally Reversed 19:01 - Sponsor: Variational, Bitwise 22:12 - The Belief Raoul Wishes Was Wrong 29:46 - How Long Does This Bull Run Last? 34:23 - The Next Obvious Crypto Narrative 36:50 - Is Bitcoin Still Primarily Money? 40:19 - Are We Underestimating AI’s Speed? 50:53 - Sponsor: Kast 51:41 - Will Crypto Ever Be Exciting Again? 59:49 - Is Success Being Smart Or Pain Tolerance? 1:03:27 - KR1: A Raoul Crypto Bet That didn't work 1:11:02 - When will The SUI Thesis Pay Off? 1:13:20 - What Brought Raoul Back To ETH 1:20:24 - Is Zcash A Trade Or A ZODL? 1:21:44 - How Big Can ZEC Get? 1:22:53 - Sponsor: Jupiter, Ethena 1:25:16 - What Is Money For? 1:26:45 - Optimizing For More Than Wealth 1:29:35 - The Most Asked Question To His Palvatar 1:33:31 - The Secret to Raoul's Great Looks 1:35:03 - Looksmaxxing: How Deep Is Raoul In? 1:37:46 - Was Telling Everyone About SUI a Wise Idea? 1:42:53 - Was the 70% SUI Position Sizing Wrong? 1:44:13 - Does Raoul Still Believe In Hold And Do Nothing? 1:44:48 - The One Major Shift Left To Witness 1:48:46 - How Good Is AI Today?

    E190: Raoul Pal: How to Get Rich in Crypto Before AI Changes Everything
  3. Oct 8

    E189: Binance Founder: This Is The Best Time In History To Get Rich In Crypto

    Changpeng Zhao (CZ), founder of Binance, sits down with Kevin live on stage at Bitcoin Asia 2026 in Hong Kong and explains why right now is the best point in history to build wealth in crypto.  He breaks down why $1 million Bitcoin is coming faster than anyone expects, why Bitcoin will overtake gold in the next bull run, the exact crypto allocation he tells governments to hold, and what the biggest AI companies are telling him about launching their own tokens. Where the next decade of crypto is going, from the man who built the biggest exchange in the world. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries: https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.  Buy with 10% off (promo code in video): https://trezor.io/?transaction_id=102... 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ 💧 Sui is a next-gen Layer 1 making digital asset ownership fast, private, and secure.  https://sui.io/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies.  https://www.coinsilium.com ___________ FOLLOW CHANGPENG ZHAO (CZ)👇 Twitter: https://x.com/cz_binance FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod   Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. #CryptoNews, #JupiterDEX, #SolanaEcosystem, #DeFiInsights, #DEXAggregator, #CryptoTrading, #Web4, #BlockchainFuture, #TokenEconomics, #CryptoCommunity, #DeFiGrowth, #CryptoAdoption, #FintechRevolution, #CryptoMistakes, #FoundersStory, #CryptoBuilders, #DeFiRevenue, #CryptoVolume, #CryptoCulture, #Web3ToWeb4, #CryptoInnovation, #SolanaDEX, #CryptoProduct, #BlockchainStrategy 0:00 Intro 0:37 Do We Need 25 Years For Bitcoin To Hit $1M 1:36 What’s Needed For This Century To Be Bitcoin Century 3:26 How Tokenization Links To Bitcoin’s Success 5:08 Will Bitcoin Weaken Or Strengthen Governments 8:47 Are Governments Serious About Bitcoin Today 11:14 What Most Governments Aren’t Doing With Bitcoin 12:56 Which Countries Are Doing The Best With Bitcoin 15:36 Will Bitcoin Become More Valuable Than Gold 16:33 Could We Be Wrong About Bitcoin Being Better Than Gold 17:17 How Much Should Countries Go In On Bitcoin 20:37 What’s Driving The Next Bitcoin Cycle 21:49 How AI Agents Will Trade Crypto 25:21 Stablecoins vs Bitcoin’s Future 26:54 What Will CZ Contribute To The Bitcoin Century

    E189: Binance Founder: This Is The Best Time In History To Get Rich In Crypto
  4. Oct 1

    E188: Crypto Trading Expert: Why No Amount of Crypto Is Enough (even millions)

    Jordi Alexander, founder and CEO of crypto trading firm Selini Capital, explains why retirement is a 20th century dream and why no amount of money will ever be "enough" in a world being rebuilt by AI.  He also shares the skill AI can't replace, where he sees Bitcoin and Zcash heading next, and why health, not wealth, will be the biggest divide of the next 20 years. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/ 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.  Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ CONNECT WITH JORDI ALEXANDER Twitter: https://x.com/gametheorizing FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod   Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 00:00 Intro 03:23 How Do You Not Break The Streak? 05:56 Who Are You? 09:24 When Did You Know You'd Made It? 12:15 How Do You Get Into The Inner Circle? 14:23 Are Billionaires Actually Special? 18:55 Early Or Just Wrong On AGI? 24:00 Sponsor: Variational, Bitwise 24:57 How Do You Not Go Crazy? 29:10 When Did Your Intuition Cost You? 31:30 The Skill AI Can't Replace 41:25 Are Book Smarts Dead? 43:03 When To Stop Grinding And Recharge 47:17 How Do You Protect Your Peace Of Mind? 51:03 Is "No Retirement" Bad Advice For Normal People? 54:45 Sponsor: Kast 1:01:13 Are Health Shortcuts Worth It? 1:06:52 Has Your Hourly Rate Changed? 50K For A Coffee 1:09:41 Where Is The Puck Going? 1:16:07 Which Platforms Win? 1:20:18 Is Qiao Wang Serious About Zcash? 1:23:19 Where Could Zcash Be In 2 Years? 1:24:50 What's In Your Macro Portfolio? 1:25:50 Why Nobody Teaches Allocation 1:29:08 Sponsor: Jupiter, Ethena 1:29:48 How Wealth Turns Into Unhappiness 1:34:56 When Does More Money Stop Mattering? 1:36:07 Why Spend Millions To Impress Strangers? 1:40:37 At 90, What Would Make Your Money Worth It? 1:42:47 Health Inequality Vs Wealth Inequality 1:44:10 What To Do When You're Spiraling 1:49:16 Can Normal People Access Psychedelic Therapy? 1:51:15 The One Thing To Remember 1:53:01 Thank You Jordi

    E188: Crypto Trading Expert: Why No Amount of Crypto Is Enough (even millions)
  5. Sep 25

    E187: Binance Founder: Nobody Realizes How Big The Next 10 Years Of Crypto Will Be

    Changpeng Zhao (CZ), founder of Binance, opens up on why he's always bullish on Twitter, how a single tweet lined up with Bitcoin's 20% pump right before Trump's crypto speech, and why he believes crypto is still nowhere near saturated with less than 1% global penetration.  He also gets candid about growing up a second-generation immigrant in Canada, surviving the FTX collapse and a Binance hack, and his contrarian take on why the traditional education system is broken. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on stocks, commodities, and more digital assets: https://www.variational.io/ 🚀 Jupiter is a leading platform for digital asset trading and the largest of its kind on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend digital dollars with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ digital asset investment products - ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar system built on Ethereum's network, offering a digitally-native, non-bank-dependent price-stable digital currency called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated exchange for trading on the outcomes of real-world events: ⁠https://kalshi.com/⁠ ___________ FOLLOW CHANGPENG ZHAO (CZ)👇 Twitter: https://x.com/cz_binance FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod   Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. #CryptoNews, #JupiterDEX, #SolanaEcosystem, #DeFiInsights, #DEXAggregator, #CryptoTrading, #Web4, #BlockchainFuture, #TokenEconomics, #CryptoCommunity, #DeFiGrowth, #CryptoAdoption, #FintechRevolution, #CryptoMistakes, #FoundersStory, #CryptoBuilders, #DeFiRevenue, #CryptoVolume, #CryptoCulture, #Web3ToWeb4, #CryptoInnovation, #SolanaDEX, #CryptoProduct, #BlockchainStrategy 0:00 Introduction 2:01 Life on the Road 3:33 Who Are You? 4:07 Becoming a Top-20 Billionaire 5:14 Growing Up Poor in Canada 6:45 His Sister's Career 7:35 Avoiding "Third Gen Degenerate" 8:07 Binance's First Day 10:05 Sponsor: Variational & Bitwise 10:58 The Early Team 12:32 What Hardworking Means 13:35 Misconceptions About Binance 14:24 Why Listed Projects Disappoint 16:54 Can Retail Ever Win? 18:58 Origin of the "4" Meme 20:55 Tweeting "4" and Meaning It 21:29 The FTX Tweet, Full Story 25:13 Hardest Period of His Life 26:05 Prison, Not Knowing When 27:48 Did Anyone Disappear? 28:31 Sponsor: Kast 29:18 The Pardon Process 32:20 Pardon: Politics or Justice? 34:32 Advice for Elon 35:44 Bybit Hack: Was Ben Right? 36:42 2019 Hack and the Red Button 41:18 Hyperliquid as a Threat? 45:07 Why Hype Isn't on Binance 46:31 The 10/10 Crash Villain 50:47 Tweeting "4" on the Crash? 51:31 Sponsor: Jupiter & Ethena 52:14 His Crypto Legacy 53:56 Giggle Academy 1:00:56 Can CZ Move the Market? 1:03:30 Outro

    E187: Binance Founder: Nobody Realizes How Big The Next 10 Years Of Crypto Will Be
  6. Sep 10

    E186: Variational CEO: This Hidden Fee Is Quietly Draining Your Crypto Account

    Lucas Schuermann is the founder and CEO of Variational, a peer-to-peer derivatives protocol built on Arbitrum. Former Genesis executive, former quant, and someone who went to Columbia at 12 and started a hedge fund at 20. Today we get into why variational charges zero trading fees, how it's aggregating liquidity from traditional finance to list hundreds of assets on chain, why perps have a funding rate problem most traders don't understand until it costs them, and what happens to old-school brokers once this liquidity actually moves. ___________ THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/ ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/  🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/  💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT  🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/  ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/  ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com  🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ FOLLOW VARIATIONAL 👇 • Twitter: https://x.com/variational_io • Linkedin: https://ky.linkedin.com/company/variational FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod   Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. Timestamps  0:00 Intro 2:20 Merch, Travel & Being Back in Singapore 5:13 Who Is Lucas Sherman? 5:24 How Lucas Thinks About Building Trust 6:03 Starting College at Age 12 8:26 How Do You Actually Skip That Many Grades? 9:45 Making Friends Six Years Younger Than Everyone Else 10:40 Are You Still a "Weirdo" at 30? 11:40 Starting a Hedge Fund at 20 - "Hubris of the Young" 14:09 From Paper-Reading Group to a Real Fund 16:50 Acquired by Digital Currency Group at 21 18:59 Why Sell the Fund to DCG? 19:54 Sponsors: Variational & Bitwise 20:47 Did You Regret Selling That Early? 21:51 The Money DCG Made Off Their Work 22:38 Starting a Market Making Firm 24:46 Explain Variational Protocol to Your Mom 26:49 Biggest Mistake Building Variational 28:13 The "Holy Sh*t, We Built Something Massive" Moment 29:54 Reason #1: Zero Fees 32:59 How Do You Trust the Price With Only One Market Maker? 34:33 Are Trading Fees a Scam? 35:29 How Much Do Fees Actually Cost Traders? 36:33 Reason #2: Asset Selection & What "Liquidity" Really Means 40:20 Why Hasn't Crypto Solved This Already? 42:39 Where On-Chain Order Books Break at Scale 46:04 Sponsor: KAST 1:07:30 Sponsor: Jupiterexchange & Ethena

    E186: Variational CEO: This Hidden Fee Is Quietly Draining Your Crypto Account
  7. Sep 2

    E185: Ethena CEO: This $7B Crypto Company Just Launched An App That Pays You To Spend Money

    Guy Young built Ethena from zero to billions in under two years.  In this conversation, we talk about the one crypto product he believes can reach 100 million users: a yield-bearing dollar in a mobile app.  The goal is for it to feel like a normal fintech app where users don't even know crypto is powering it underneath. Just save, spend, and send to anyone in the world.  THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/  🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/  💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT  🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/  ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/  ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com  🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ Follow Guy Young • Twitter: https://x.com/gdog97_ FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod   Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 0:00 Introduction 2:37 Which Of Guy’s Plans Didn’t Work Out 5:37 Where Are The Users People Are Trying To Obtain 7:10 What Excited Guy About Crypto 9:20 Differences Between PayPal, Revolut, & Neo Banks 12:43 Partnerships: @Variational @BitwiseInvest 13:36 Revolut vs Stable Coin Neo Banks  15:58 Is Swapping To Neo Banks A 10x Improvement 18:00 Ethena Pay Explained Simply 21:21 Why Another Crypto Neo Bank 23:53 Will A Fight For The Pie Happen With Crypto Banks  25:55 How Ethena Gets Users When It Can Help Everyone 32:47 What Makes Ethena Different 36:51 Ethena’s Cashback System Revealed 38:32 Guy’s Thoughts On How Ethena Reduces Fees  39:39 How Ethena Gets The Best Yield  45:16 Guy’s Opinion On Dealing With FUD 48:35 Why Guy Doesn’t Communicate A Lot 49:29 Partnership: @KASTxyz 50:17 What KPI Is Ethena Looking To Hit In 2026 51:55 The Holy Grail For A Stable Coin Neo Bank 52:31 Partnerships: @JupiterExchange @Ethena 53:14 If Everyone’s Doing The Same Thing, Who Wins 55:23 The Next Big Thing For Ethena After Ethena Pay 56:36 Is Ethena Pay Like USDE 58:04 Closing Thoughts

    E185: Ethena CEO: This $7B Crypto Company Just Launched An App That Pays You To Spend Money
  8. Aug 27

    E184: Trezor CTO: How Quantum Computers Could Empty Every Bitcoin Wallet

    Trezor's CTO, Tomáš Sušánka, breaks down how AI is changing the scam landscape and why even security experts are getting fooled.  From AI deepfake Microsoft Teams calls to voice cloning and phishing sites that nearly caught the CTO himself, this conversation covers the modern security playbook everyone needs for 2026. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.  Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com ___________ Follow Tomáš Sušánka • Twitter: https://x.com/tsusanka FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod   Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 0:00 Introduction 2:07 Does Tomas Like To Talk 4:15 What Does Tomas Do & Why 5:15 How Much Does Bitcoin Matter To Tomas 6:28 Why Should People Still Care About Bitcoin 8:25 Who Is Tomas Sushanka 10:10 Why Humans Are So Bad With Security 12:58 Tomas’s Thoughts On People Downplaying Risk 14:27 How Should One Think About Risk 15:25 Does Intelligence Play A Role In Risk 16:54 Why Do Smart People Fall For Scams 23:39 How Do We Fix This Scam Problem 25:12 Partnerships: @Variational @BitwiseInvest 26:05 Which Security Mistake Would Tomas Remove 28:57 How Tomas Protects His Assets  29:49 What’s The Craziest Hack Tomas Has Seen 31:24 A Security Habit That Makes Tomas Look Crazy 32:27 Why Someone Should Care About Self-Custody 36:05 When Should People Look Into A Hardware Wallet 37:48 A Strategy For Hardware Risk Management 44:16 How Does One Manage The Inheritance Problem 46:29 Should People Keep Assets On An Exchange 47:32 Partnership: @KASTxyz 48:20 What Security Setup Should Kevin’s Grandma Use 50:08 Things To Can Do To Prevent Hacks & Scams 1:01:57 Should People Upgrade Their Trezor Wallets 1:05:28 How Self-Custody Will Evolve & Not Be Archaic 1:08:07 Partnerships: @JupiterExchange @Ethena 1:08:50 The Biggest Problem With Self-Custody 1:09:52 Is Quantum Computing A Worry For Crypto 1:14:48 Who’s Taking Quantum Computing Seriously 1:20:41 Who’s Securing Bitcoin Against Quantum Risk 1:23:58 A Crypto Belief That Tomas Disagrees With 1:26:12 Is There A Future For Digital Identity  1:27:56 Could Self-Custody Become Too Complicated 1:28:42 Dangerous Advice Tomas Had Heard Before 1:29:43 Does AI Make You Safer Or Vulnerable 1:31:25 Closing Thoughts

    E184: Trezor CTO: How Quantum Computers Could Empty Every Bitcoin Wallet
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