People and Performance Podcast

Fidello Inc.

The People and Performance Podcast offers insights into the strategic competencies, behaviors, and results needed to increase the performance of employees. From attraction and recruitment through onboarding and measuring all the way to succession planning, each episode will take a deep dive into the stages of workforce planning you need to master in order to guarantee long-term success in a rapidly changing world of work. Hosted by Chris Bjorling, Bill Banham and others, each interview is around 15-20 minutes and supported by super impressive guest industry experts.

  1. Navigating the Shift: How Organizations Are Building Skills-Based Workforces

    09/16/2025

    Navigating the Shift: How Organizations Are Building Skills-Based Workforces

    Skills-based organizations are no longer just theoretical concepts discussed in business journals – they're becoming the new operational reality for companies worldwide. As Charlotte Evans, Director of Global Customer Advocacy for Coursera for Business, reveals in this eye-opening conversation with Chris Bjorling, even the most recognizable global brands are only now beginning their implementation journeys. "A lot of organizations look at me and go 'we are not there,'" Charlotte shares, describing how companies are typically at steps two or three of the five-step maturity model. This widespread challenge has created what she calls "group therapy" among L&D professionals all asking the same questions: Where do we start? How do we measure success? What's actually working? Evans offers compelling insights into how objective skill measurement is revolutionizing workforce utilization. By accurately identifying capabilities (rather than relying on self or manager assessments), companies can create internal "gig economies" where employees contribute across traditional boundaries. She describes a credit services company that discovered significant gaps between manager perceptions and actual Python skills, highlighting the need for data-driven skill assessment. Perhaps most fascinating is the evolution of leadership development through artificial intelligence. Coursera's "Dialog" tool creates psychologically safe environments for managers to practice difficult conversations without the disruption or cost of traditional boot camps. The next frontier? AI-powered role play that simulates challenging negotiations, sales calls, and employee conversations – moving beyond today's "peppy" AI responses to reflect workplace realities. For L&D professionals looking ahead, Evans emphasizes aligning learning with business outcomes by partnering directly with functional leaders. She shares the remarkable story of Dow Chemical, which upskilled 84% of its IT workforce in generative AI within a single quarter, largely because the CIO personally completed and showcased the training. Connect with Charlotte Evans on LinkedIn or visit coursera.com/business to explore how skills-based learning can transform your organization's performance in an increasingly dynamic business landscape. ---------- Talking About Ways To Improve Company Culture and People Performance The People and Performance Podcast is a show that dives into all things related to raising performance in the working world around us. We investigate how technology and HR processes are inextricably linked to the employee experience and the bottom line. Chris Bjorling, Co-host Christopher Bjorling is President at Fidello Inc., a consulting and services firm specializing in improving human performance. For over 30 years Chris has led Fidello in creating unique talent management solutions. Through the products and services he and his team have created over the years, his organization has helped clients design, develop, implement and integrate talent management processes and systems. Bill Banham, Co-host Bill Banham, Publisher at The HR Gazette, Host of the popular HRchat Podcast and Organizer of events such as DisruptHR London. Bill has worked with lots of business tech and HR-focused brands in the UK and North America including HRreview, TalentCulture, HRmarketer, Sprigg HR, and Team Fitness Tool. Contact us to learn more!

    17 min
  2. Leveraging Social Support for Workplace Performance

    09/11/2025

    Leveraging Social Support for Workplace Performance

    What if the most powerful driver of workplace performance isn't complicated systems or cutting-edge technology, but something as fundamental as social support? Dr. Amanda Hagman, Chief Scientific Officer at Atana, reveals this insight in a conversation with Chris Bjorling about human behavior, organizational learning, and strategic development. Drawing from her extensive research, Amanda challenges listeners to reconsider how social dynamics shape workplace behavior. Through the relatable example of kitchen sink habits at home versus at work, she illustrates how environmental cues and social expectations profoundly influence our actions—regardless of generation. While acknowledging surface-level differences between age groups, she argues that the fundamental mechanisms of human learning remain consistent: we observe others, adapt to social norms, and mirror behaviors we see around us. The discussion takes a compelling turn toward the strategic potential of Learning and Development professionals. Amanda proposes that L&D teams occupy a uniquely valuable position in organizations, with access to employees across departments during training initiatives. This presents an opportunity to transform learning sessions into data collection moments that yield insights about motivations, attitudes, and organizational readiness. By leveraging these "captive audience" interactions, L&D can evolve beyond its traditional role to become a source of strategic intelligence for leadership. As organizations navigate technological shifts comparable to the advent of the internet, Amanda emphasizes the importance of leadership modeling desired behaviors while simultaneously upskilling alongside their teams. Her vision for the future of workplace learning balances innovation with proven methodologies—not discarding valuable established practices in pursuit of trends, but building upon solid foundations while adapting to change. Connect with Dr. Hagman on LinkedIn or visit Atana.com to discover how evidence-based learning approaches can drive meaningful performance improvement in your organization. ---------- Talking About Ways To Improve Company Culture and People Performance The People and Performance Podcast is a show that dives into all things related to raising performance in the working world around us. We investigate how technology and HR processes are inextricably linked to the employee experience and the bottom line. Chris Bjorling, Co-host Christopher Bjorling is President at Fidello Inc., a consulting and services firm specializing in improving human performance. For over 30 years Chris has led Fidello in creating unique talent management solutions. Through the products and services he and his team have created over the years, his organization has helped clients design, develop, implement and integrate talent management processes and systems. Bill Banham, Co-host Bill Banham, Publisher at The HR Gazette, Host of the popular HRchat Podcast and Organizer of events such as DisruptHR London. Bill has worked with lots of business tech and HR-focused brands in the UK and North America including HRreview, TalentCulture, HRmarketer, Sprigg HR, and Team Fitness Tool. Contact us to learn more!

    11 min
  3. What Do Your Employees Want to Learn? The Question Leaders Ignore

    09/09/2025

    What Do Your Employees Want to Learn? The Question Leaders Ignore

    What happens when we forget the human beings behind job titles? Kristen Nielsen Donnelly, PhD, COO of Abbey Companies and founder of Abbey Research, tackles this question with refreshing candor in our conversation about workplace dynamics across generations. Breaking from typical generational discourse filled with negativity and fatalism, Kristen offers a provocative perspective: "Nearly everything people complain about in Gen Z is the fault of the older three generations in the world." She challenges leaders to recognize how we've created systems that didn't equip younger workers with necessary coping skills, then unfairly criticize them for struggling within those very systems. The most overlooked factor for improving workplace performance? "Remembering that they're people," Kristen states, noting how uncomfortable this simple truth makes many leaders feel. She cautions against the growing trend of AI-driven training solutions that flatten organizational culture and eliminate the nuances that make workplaces distinctive and attractive to diverse talent. As economic conditions tighten heading toward 2025, Kristen envisions L&D professionals as champions for humanity in organizations, becoming "the clanging drum and the resounding cymbal" reminding everyone that "our people are people" amid challenging business decisions. Her bold recommendation for talent development? Start by asking employees what they want to learn beyond their current role – what skills they hope to develop during their time with your organization. Discover more about Abbey Research's groundbreaking work on multi-generational workspaces through their website abbey-research.com, where you can access their published work, sign up for their newsletter, and stay updated on their latest findings about creating more human-centered workplaces where everyone can thrive. ---------- Talking About Ways To Improve Company Culture and People Performance The People and Performance Podcast is a show that dives into all things related to raising performance in the working world around us. We investigate how technology and HR processes are inextricably linked to the employee experience and the bottom line. Chris Bjorling, Co-host Christopher Bjorling is President at Fidello Inc., a consulting and services firm specializing in improving human performance. For over 30 years Chris has led Fidello in creating unique talent management solutions. Through the products and services he and his team have created over the years, his organization has helped clients design, develop, implement and integrate talent management processes and systems. Bill Banham, Co-host Bill Banham, Publisher at The HR Gazette, Host of the popular HRchat Podcast and Organizer of events such as DisruptHR London. Bill has worked with lots of business tech and HR-focused brands in the UK and North America including HRreview, TalentCulture, HRmarketer, Sprigg HR, and Team Fitness Tool. Contact us to learn more!

    9 min
  4. Surfacing Problems: The Gift of Failure

    09/04/2025

    Surfacing Problems: The Gift of Failure

    What happens when you treat problems as gifts rather than obstacles? According to Mike Taylor, cybersecurity professional at Nationwide and instructor at Franklin University's instructional design program, this mindset shift creates the foundation for powerful organizational learning. During this enlightening conversation with host Chris Bjorling, Mike challenges conventional L&D wisdom by emphasizing the critical importance of audience understanding before content creation. "If you have one size fits all, it really means one size fits none," he explains, advocating for learning experiences that are simple, relevant to specific roles, and emotionally resonant with learners. Mike offers a refreshing perspective on failure and conflict, sharing a transformative moment when a former boss taught him to welcome problems: "If you don't know about the problems, you can't fix them." This philosophy extends to his views on artificial intelligence in leadership development, where he encourages organizations to experiment now rather than being left behind—comparing today's AI hesitancy to early resistance toward email adoption. Looking toward 2025 and beyond, Mike articulates why learning itself represents the ultimate competitive advantage. "In an uncertain world, the learners will win," he quotes, emphasizing that success will go to organizations that can learn and apply new knowledge faster than competitors. This requires not just teaching content but teaching people how to learn effectively through psychological safety—environments where employees aren't afraid to fail and can surface problems openly. The conversation concludes with insights from Mike's co-authored book "Train Like a Marketer," which explores how L&D professionals can adopt marketing techniques to better capture attention and influence behavior. Connect with Mike on LinkedIn, through his L&D newsletter at mike-taylor.org, or discover his book at trainlikeamarketer.com. ---------- Talking About Ways To Improve Company Culture and People Performance The People and Performance Podcast is a show that dives into all things related to raising performance in the working world around us. We investigate how technology and HR processes are inextricably linked to the employee experience and the bottom line. Chris Bjorling, Co-host Christopher Bjorling is President at Fidello Inc., a consulting and services firm specializing in improving human performance. For over 30 years Chris has led Fidello in creating unique talent management solutions. Through the products and services he and his team have created over the years, his organization has helped clients design, develop, implement and integrate talent management processes and systems. Bill Banham, Co-host Bill Banham, Publisher at The HR Gazette, Host of the popular HRchat Podcast and Organizer of events such as DisruptHR London. Bill has worked with lots of business tech and HR-focused brands in the UK and North America including HRreview, TalentCulture, HRmarketer, Sprigg HR, and Team Fitness Tool. Contact us to learn more!

    12 min
  5. Ditching the L&D Soapbox

    09/02/2025

    Ditching the L&D Soapbox

    Cutting through the noise of today's workplace requires more than just great content - it demands a true understanding of learners and their needs. In this engaging conversation Chris Bjorling had with Bianca Baumann, VP of Learning Solutions and Innovation at Ardent Learning, we explore how marketing techniques can revolutionize learning and development efforts. Bianca shares her powerful guiding principle: "learner before content." This simple yet profound approach encourages L&D professionals to deeply understand their audience before developing materials, ensuring relevance and impact. As a newly published author (her book with co-author Mike Taylor launches next week!), Bianca brings fresh perspectives on creating learning experiences that genuinely resonate with today's workforce. The discussion takes a candid turn when Bianca identifies communication as the most overlooked lever for improving workplace performance. "Especially now in this era of AI and technology, it's noisy, it's really really noisy out there and cutting through that noise is hard," she explains. Building trust emerges as a critical theme throughout our conversation, with Bianca highlighting its cascading positive effects on organizational culture. Looking toward the future of L&D, Bianca challenges traditional structures with a bold vision: "In a perfect world, I would love for L&D to not report into HR but to sit in each business line and support the business right there." This perspective invites L&D professionals to enhance their business acumen, remove departmental blinders, and collaborate across organizational boundaries. Whether you're an L&D professional seeking fresh approaches, a leader navigating today's complex talent landscape, or simply curious about the future of workplace learning, this episode offers actionable insights to transform how you approach people development. Connect with Bianca on LinkedIn or visit trainlikeamarketer.com to learn more about her groundbreaking work. ---------- Talking About Ways To Improve Company Culture and People Performance The People and Performance Podcast is a show that dives into all things related to raising performance in the working world around us. We investigate how technology and HR processes are inextricably linked to the employee experience and the bottom line. Chris Bjorling, Co-host Christopher Bjorling is President at Fidello Inc., a consulting and services firm specializing in improving human performance. For over 30 years Chris has led Fidello in creating unique talent management solutions. Through the products and services he and his team have created over the years, his organization has helped clients design, develop, implement and integrate talent management processes and systems. Bill Banham, Co-host Bill Banham, Publisher at The HR Gazette, Host of the popular HRchat Podcast and Organizer of events such as DisruptHR London. Bill has worked with lots of business tech and HR-focused brands in the UK and North America including HRreview, TalentCulture, HRmarketer, Sprigg HR, and Team Fitness Tool. Contact us to learn more!

    10 min
  6. Superman's Guide to Learning: What Action Comics Taught a Professor

    08/28/2025

    Superman's Guide to Learning: What Action Comics Taught a Professor

    Professor Karl Kapp turns traditional learning and development on its head with his revolutionary Action First Learning framework. Rather than beginning with theory and content, Kapp advocates for jumping straight into action—allowing learners to try, potentially fail, and then receive targeted instruction based on their real-time experience. The Commonwealth University professor brings years of research in gamification, instructional design, and performance improvement to this conversation, revealing how failure serves as our most powerful teacher. "We learn more from failure than we do from success," Karl explains, highlighting how creating safe spaces for practice and failure transforms reluctant learners into engaged participants. This approach proves especially effective with resistant groups like sales professionals, who typically avoid traditional role-playing but enthusiastically embrace Kapp's card-based challenge games. When discussing the current learning landscape, Kapp addresses the elephant in the room: artificial intelligence. Rather than joining the AI hype cycle, he advocates for focusing on human capabilities and connection. "When we take AI out of the discussion, people's anxiety levels go way down," he notes, reminding us that organizations fundamentally function as human social groups. As L&D professionals uniquely touch every corner of their organizations, they hold tremendous power to humanize workplace interactions and shape culture, positioning people for success in an increasingly technology-driven environment. Want to transform your learning approach? Discover Carl Kapp's "Action First Learning" book, available at all major retailers, and connect with him on LinkedIn and YouTube to explore how practice, action, and embracing failure might be the performance breakthrough your team needs. ---------- Talking About Ways To Improve Company Culture and People Performance The People and Performance Podcast is a show that dives into all things related to raising performance in the working world around us. We investigate how technology and HR processes are inextricably linked to the employee experience and the bottom line. Chris Bjorling, Co-host Christopher Bjorling is President at Fidello Inc., a consulting and services firm specializing in improving human performance. For over 30 years Chris has led Fidello in creating unique talent management solutions. Through the products and services he and his team have created over the years, his organization has helped clients design, develop, implement and integrate talent management processes and systems. Bill Banham, Co-host Bill Banham, Publisher at The HR Gazette, Host of the popular HRchat Podcast and Organizer of events such as DisruptHR London. Bill has worked with lots of business tech and HR-focused brands in the UK and North America including HRreview, TalentCulture, HRmarketer, Sprigg HR, and Team Fitness Tool. Contact us to learn more!

    11 min
  7. User-Generated Content: The Future of Effective Learning and Development

    08/21/2025

    User-Generated Content: The Future of Effective Learning and Development

    Ever wonder what happens when L&D professionals finally focus on their own development? Sarah Cannistra, founder of The Overnight Trainer, pulls back the curtain on this fascinating dynamic in our latest conversation. Sarah brings dual perspectives as both an L&D career coach and the head of learning programs for a tech company, offering rare insights into what truly drives performance improvement. She challenges the reflexive "more training" approach that dominates many organizations, instead highlighting a frequently overlooked lever: understanding employee motivations. "It's not rocket science," she explains, but this fundamental element is often missed when companies sprint toward training solutions without addressing the human factors beneath performance challenges. The conversation takes a revolutionary turn when Sarah advocates for user-generated content in learning programs. "We have seen ourselves as the gatekeepers of content," she notes, identifying how L&D professionals often become organizational bottlenecks rather than enablers. Her approach—focusing on curation rather than creation—has allowed her to effectively manage learning for 4,000 employees as a team of one. This shift from the traditional "sage on the stage" model to facilitating peer learning represents a significant evolution in how organizations develop talent. What makes Sarah's insights particularly valuable is her practical experience implementing these approaches. She emphasizes the importance of understanding your organization's unique context rather than applying generic solutions. "What worked in manager development at my last full-time role does not work here," she reflects, encouraging L&D leaders to focus less on business goals (the "what") and more on methodologies and culture (the "how"). Ready to transform your approach to learning and development? Connect with Sarah at theovernighttrainer.com, check out her book "Land your Next L&D Role," or find her on LinkedIn to continue the conversation about the evolving landscape of talent development. ---------- Talking About Ways To Improve Company Culture and People Performance The People and Performance Podcast is a show that dives into all things related to raising performance in the working world around us. We investigate how technology and HR processes are inextricably linked to the employee experience and the bottom line. Chris Bjorling, Co-host Christopher Bjorling is President at Fidello Inc., a consulting and services firm specializing in improving human performance. For over 30 years Chris has led Fidello in creating unique talent management solutions. Through the products and services he and his team have created over the years, his organization has helped clients design, develop, implement and integrate talent management processes and systems. Bill Banham, Co-host Bill Banham, Publisher at The HR Gazette, Host of the popular HRchat Podcast and Organizer of events such as DisruptHR London. Bill has worked with lots of business tech and HR-focused brands in the UK and North America including HRreview, TalentCulture, HRmarketer, Sprigg HR, and Team Fitness Tool. Contact us to learn more!

    12 min
  8. Thinking in an Age of Automation

    08/14/2025

    Thinking in an Age of Automation

    Ever caught yourself scrolling through photos of presentation slides you'll never look at again? In this episode, cognitive science researcher Nidhi Sachdeva, PhD, challenges us to reconsider how we're learning in our digital age. Nidhi, a teacher educator at the University of Toronto and microlearning specialist, shares a startling observation: we're thinking less and reflecting less—and it's impacting our ability to truly learn. Drawing from her extensive research, she explains why our long-term memory requires regular "massaging" through challenging conditions that prompt recall and reflection. The simple act of attempting to remember information before checking notes or photos can dramatically improve retention and drive meaningful behavioral change. This conversation explores a fundamental disconnect in workplace learning design. Too often, organizations approach training as information dumps without considering the cognitive science of how people actually learn. "You can't connect the dots if you don't have the dots," Nidhi reminds us, emphasizing that dots are built through active thinking, not passive consumption. She references John Sweller's cognitive load theory to illustrate how instruction without understanding human cognitive architecture is essentially "blind." Perhaps most compelling is Nidhi 's perspective on our evolutionary advantage—our neocortex—and how our rush toward AI and instant information access might be undermining millions of years of cognitive development. This isn't about rejecting technology but using it wisely while preserving our uniquely human capacity for deep reflection. Whether you're designing learning experiences, leading a team, or simply trying to retain what you learn at your next conference, this episode offers practical wisdom on the power of pausing to think. Listen now and discover why sometimes the most powerful learning technology is the one between your ears. ---------- Talking About Ways To Improve Company Culture and People Performance The People and Performance Podcast is a show that dives into all things related to raising performance in the working world around us. We investigate how technology and HR processes are inextricably linked to the employee experience and the bottom line. Chris Bjorling, Co-host Christopher Bjorling is President at Fidello Inc., a consulting and services firm specializing in improving human performance. For over 30 years Chris has led Fidello in creating unique talent management solutions. Through the products and services he and his team have created over the years, his organization has helped clients design, develop, implement and integrate talent management processes and systems. Bill Banham, Co-host Bill Banham, Publisher at The HR Gazette, Host of the popular HRchat Podcast and Organizer of events such as DisruptHR London. Bill has worked with lots of business tech and HR-focused brands in the UK and North America including HRreview, TalentCulture, HRmarketer, Sprigg HR, and Team Fitness Tool. Contact us to learn more!

    9 min

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The People and Performance Podcast offers insights into the strategic competencies, behaviors, and results needed to increase the performance of employees. From attraction and recruitment through onboarding and measuring all the way to succession planning, each episode will take a deep dive into the stages of workforce planning you need to master in order to guarantee long-term success in a rapidly changing world of work. Hosted by Chris Bjorling, Bill Banham and others, each interview is around 15-20 minutes and supported by super impressive guest industry experts.