The Make Music Income Podcast

Cre8iv Entertainment

In this weekly podcast, composer, arranger, and producer Eric Copeland of Make Music Income talks about his continuing journey to Make Music Income with Music Licensing, Music Production, Music Publishing, Sheet Music, Artist Income, Online Channel Income, and more. Eric also interviews people from across the spectrum of the music business, specifically asking: "How do you make music income?"

  1. 4d ago

    The Future of Sync with Dave Kropf of @52Cues | For Beginners, For Pros, & What About A.I?

    In this video I join with Dave Kropf of @52Cues to talk about how we see the Future of Sync Licensing.#musiclicensing #synclicensing #musicroyaltiesLearn More About 52 Cues:https://www.52cues.com/WORK WITH ERIC:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://payhip.com/b/iJpkeGet FREE stuff athttps://makemusicincome.com/free/DISTROKID:Get your music to Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off:https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!https://distrokid.com/student/911910NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here:https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubeClick here:https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here:https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusicJOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVdMY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.comMY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com0:00 - Welcome to the Future (and Dave)3:02 - Disclaimer5:58 - The Future of Sync for Beginners19:56 - The Future of Sync for Income27:19 - The Future of Sync 5 Years In37:41 - The Future of Sync & A.I.50:40 - Eric's Rant to Composers About A.I.54:28 - Sync and A.I Do Not Mix in 2026!1:01:03 - Changes to Libraries in the Future?1:08:03 - The Future of Dave in Sync1:10:32 - The Future of Eric in Sync1:14:56 - Stop Sync, Keep Making Income?1:18:41 - Should You Switch Sync Libraries?1:20:43 - The Future of Jazz in Sync?

    1h 24m
  2. EP 169.Sync Partners Triggered My 2nd Biggest BMI Payday! Q4 BMI Statement Numbers and Trends

    May 25

    EP 169.Sync Partners Triggered My 2nd Biggest BMI Payday! Q4 BMI Statement Numbers and Trends

    I just received my 2nd highest BMI check ever. But here’s the twist: Barely one single song payment made up more than 10% of it, and I didn't even own 100% of many of the songs I was paid. So today I want to share some things about * How I am getting paid from my PRO (BMI) * What kinds of things are paying me, and how much (spoiler alert: it’s not Netflix!) * All the royalties I am only receiving a piece of because of all the composers, artists, and songwriters I work with in my Positive Spin Partners program * …and why that’s actually a good thing! * And the math of scaling by not trying to do everything myself WORK WITH ERIC ON YOUR SYNC CAREER: Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric. https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price. Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910 Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR? SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound! https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are! Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube Click here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5! Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD: https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC Positive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC: https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com 0:00 - My 2nd Highest BMI Check 3:00 - Why Partners are Important 5:20 - Crazy Wolfgang Income 11:00 - My BMI Statement Income 13:40 - Network Television Income 17:00 - Cable Television Income 19:40 - Streaming Music Income 22:30 - Streaming Television Income 26:36 - International Income 29:12 - Royalty Music Income Math 32:50 - My Sync Trajectory 35:32 - Partnering is the Key!

    41 min
  3. EP168. The New Music Economy Is About Service, Not Stardom | With Auralie from PLV Music

    May 18

    EP168. The New Music Economy Is About Service, Not Stardom | With Auralie from PLV Music

    What if the key to making more of your own music (and making music income) isn’t chasing streams, labels, or algorithms… but helping other music creators succeed? In this video with Auralie of @musicbyplv (PLV Music), we talk about how building a music services business can create stability, income, relationships, and creative freedom — allowing you to spend more time making the music you actually care about. From sync licensing to production, coaching, editing, songwriting, and creator support, serving the music community can become the engine behind your art. GET A FREE 14 DAY EMAIL COURSE from PLV Music To get the free 14-day email course from PLV Music (Aurelie Couble) designed to help you land your first music client online, simply send her a direct message (DM) on Instagram with the number "14MMI". https://www.instagram.com/musicbyplv WORK WITH ERIC ON YOUR SYNC CAREER: Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric. https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ GET STARTED NOW AT: http://SyncInRealTime.com Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price. Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910 Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR? SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound! https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are! https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5! https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD: https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC Positive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC: https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Introducing Auralie of PLV Music 2:00 - How Does Auralie Make Music Income? 5:20 - Who PLV Music Focuses On 7:00 - Music Gatekeeper Resistance Syndrome 8:00 - Music Services Funding Your Music 12:00 - % of Time We Work on Music 15:10 - Our Businesses and Who We Are 19:19 - Promoting Music Entreprenuership 23:12 - Music Career Transformation 27:38 - Is Spotify a Scam? 30:18 - Monetize Your Skills/Be An Artist 32:11 - The Inevitable A.I. Discussion 42:47 - Do We Have An Escape Plan? 48:43 - An Offer from PLV Music 49:45 - Our Favorite Social Platforms

    51 min
  4. EP167. The Future of this Channel | My Music Income from 2025 | My Focus for 2026

    Mar 30

    EP167. The Future of this Channel | My Music Income from 2025 | My Focus for 2026

    After many, many weeks, months even, I have been trying to sort out my feelings about the direction of this channel - about the existence of this channel. Well, I think I know. JOIN THE GETTING IN SYNC 8-WEEK CLASS!Find out more about the course and how you can join this limited seat class at a special price for the last 6 weeks!https://payhip.com/b/KtoqH Email Eric for a special price! PositiveSpinSongs@gmail.com WORK WITH ME: Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ ZOOM COACHING WITH ERIC:https://makemusicincome.com/coaching/ Get FREE stuffhttps://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKIDGet your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator!https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCOShow off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYYGet paid when your music is used on YouTubehttps://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORDhttps://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIChttps://www.ericcopelandmusic.com Timestamps 0:00 - The Future of this Channel6:16 - The Positive Spin Partners Program8:50 - Predicting Future Income by Looking Back11:00 - My 2025 Music Income21:14 - Rise in Sync Royalties27:44 - The Future of Music Income for Me35:53 - The Future of Music Income for YOU

    42 min
  5. EP166. From Stock Music 👎 to 81,000 Spotify Listeners 👍 | Best Music Macs | Musicians Health

    Mar 16

    EP166. From Stock Music 👎 to 81,000 Spotify Listeners 👍 | Best Music Macs | Musicians Health

    Today we chat with Music Composer and YouTuber Bjørnar Kibsgaard and hear his transition from Stock Music producer to growing a following of 81,791 monthly listeners on Spotify! Hear his journey as we also talk about his other expertise which is information about the best Macs for music making, and his health journey. #musicstreaming #spotify #musician Find and Follow Bjørnar's music at:https://open.spotify.com/artist/01hFDeuZo0Yqz82op3ttdP?si=pakIu7xhSfi1QHhm8j2Xkg&nd=1&dlsi=cc22457f6f674c8a Follow his YouTube channel here:https://www.youtube.com/@bjornark WORK WITH ERIC:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ GET STARTED NOW AT:https://payhip.com/b/iJpke Get FREE stuff at: https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price. Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910 Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR? SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound! https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are! Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube Click here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5! Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD: https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC Positive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com 0:00 - Meet Bjørnar 1:23 - How Does Bjørnar Make Music Income? 3:51 - Bjørnar's Day Gig 5:47 - Bjørnar's Channel 7:07 - The Best Mac for Music in 2026? 13:29 - Transition from $tock to $treaming 26:58 - Breaking Even with Ads & Streaming? 33:51 - A Brief Word on Stock and AI 39:18 - Musicians Health Issues 46:02 - What Does Eric do with Sync Partners? 49:59 - The Best Thing for Composers To Do in 2026

    1h 1m
  6. EP165. Sync in 2026 with Eric Copeland & Randy McGravey | Has Sync Changed? Is AI a Problem? Sync As Income

    Feb 16

    EP165. Sync in 2026 with Eric Copeland & Randy McGravey | Has Sync Changed? Is AI a Problem? Sync As Income

    We jump into lot of topics surrounding sync and being a musician in 2026 with my guest @randymcgraveymusic in this wide-ranging discussion. #musiclicensing #synclicensing #musicroyalties FIND RANDY AT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClIT3zXdOFvx0OyyiDE65jw WORK WITH ME: Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric. http://SyncInRealTime.com Get FREE stuff at: https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price. Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910 Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR? SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound! https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are! Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube Click here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5! Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD: https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC: Positive Spin Songs – https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC: https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com

    1 hr
  7. EP164. How Concert Composers Build Successful Careers: Voice, Network, and the "Time Horizon"

    Jan 9

    EP164. How Concert Composers Build Successful Careers: Voice, Network, and the "Time Horizon"

    In this in-depth conversation, successful concert composer and educator @saadhaddadmusic shares how composers actually build sustainable careers — not through shortcuts, but through long-term focus and thinking he calls the "Time Horizon." Saad also breaks down his two foundational pillars for compositional success: - Finding your true compositional voice - Building a strong, intentional network of contacts Together, these three elements form a realistic roadmap for composers navigating today’s classical and concert music world. We discuss: - Saad's personal journey to a successful concert composing - Whether making a living as a concert composer is still possible (or needed) - How long-term thinking and consistent work for years changes career outcomes - Why your musical voice matters - How network and relationships quietly shape real opportunities This interview is essential viewing for composers, educators, students, and anyone pursuing a serious career in composition. Guest: Saad Haddad - YouTube Channel: @saadhaddadmusic Topics: Classical composition, concert music, composer careers, music education #composer #classicalcomposer #concertcomposer #musiccareer #composition #makingalivinginmusic WORK WITH SAAD: 🎼 Composition: Refine your musical voice and develop your ideas. 🎻 Orchestration: Learn to write effectively for any ensemble. 📚 Music Theory & Counterpoint: Strengthen your technical skills. 🎓 College Coaching: Get expert advice for music program applications. 💼 Career Coaching: Navigate the path to a professional music career. 📖 Self-Publishing: Learn how to publish and promote your own music. https://www.saadnhaddad.com/private-lessons.html WORK WITH ME: Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland and his sync production company Positive Spin Songs to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric. https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ GET STARTED NOW AT: http://SyncInRealTime.com Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID: Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price. Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910 Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR? SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound! https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are! Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTube Click here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5! Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD: https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSIC Positive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC: https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com

    55 min
  8. EP163. How A Music Supervisor Really Works | An Interview with Jody Friedman | Music Supervisor Series

    12/16/2025

    EP163. How A Music Supervisor Really Works | An Interview with Jody Friedman | Music Supervisor Series

    Welcome to the first in a new series of interviews that are focused solely on music supervisors. These are the people who are directly in the path of any of us focused on a career in sync licensing. So I think it’s crucial that we find out how they work, what they look for, where they look first, where they look second…. And get ready for them all to have slightly (or wildly) different views on things like AI, exclusivity, perpetuity, and the way they go about their job of finding music. Today I talk to Jody Friedman who has secured over 10,000 placements, licensing music to media, including theme songs, blockbuster movie trailers, globally recognized brands, and more. #musiclicensing #synclicensing #musicsupervisor WORK WITH ME:Work directly with composer and producer Eric Copeland to develop albums of music for pitching to sync licensing for TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming. Weekly Partner Zoom Meeting, Monday Morning Updates, and work on an album monthly directly with Eric.https://positivespinsongs.com/partners/ Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/free/ DISTROKID:Get your music to Spotify, Apple, Youtube, and more for one yearly price.Get 7% Off: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/911910Get 50% off if you are a student or educator! https://distrokid.com/student/911910 NEED GEAR?SWEETWATER SOUND: Support the channel by using this link to find the latest deals and get the gear you need at our favorite music store, Sweetwater Sound!https://sweetwater.sjv.io/q4JEB5 DISCO: Show off your amazing portfolio and be where the music supervisors and music buyers are!Click here: https://disco.ac/signup?b=2095&u=34391 IDENTIFYY: Get paid when your music is used on YouTubeClick here: https://identifyy.com?referral=MTMzMjc2 POND5: Get into Music Licensing easily! Use this referral code to sign up and get started selling YOUR music with Pond5!Click here: https://www.pond5.com?ref=FromtheMomentMusic JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON DISCORD:https://bit.ly/3fYDSVd MY SYNC LICENSING MUSICPositive Spin Songs - https://positivespinsongs.com MY PERSONAL MUSIC:https://www.ericcopelandmusic.com TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Introducing Jody Friedman5:12 - Talking Sync Agents12:44 - The Music Supervisor Role18:00 - Jody's Own Libraries20:37 - Music Business Changes22:30 - A Golden Era for Sync24:30 - Should Everyone Do Everything?29:18 - AI in Sync

    36 min

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In this weekly podcast, composer, arranger, and producer Eric Copeland of Make Music Income talks about his continuing journey to Make Music Income with Music Licensing, Music Production, Music Publishing, Sheet Music, Artist Income, Online Channel Income, and more. Eric also interviews people from across the spectrum of the music business, specifically asking: "How do you make music income?"

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