What if meditation isn't about becoming calmer, better, more spiritual, or more enlightened? In this special episode of The Awareness Podcast, the tables are turned as Center for Awakening founder Bill Free interviews host Jody Agard about her upcoming four-part series, True Meditation: The Recognition of the Infinite I AM. Together, they explore one of the most transformative questions on the spiritual path: Who is the one trying to meditate? Drawing from non-duality, self-inquiry, and direct experience, Jody shares how years of seeking, striving, fixing, and trying to improve herself eventually gave way to a much simpler recognition: what we are seeking has never been absent. True meditation is not about achieving a future state. It is the recognition of what we already are. In this conversation, Bill and Jody explore: ✨ The difference between traditional meditation and true meditation ✨ Why awakening is not about fixing the separate self ✨ The meaning of the Infinite I AM ✨ How to recognize awareness in everyday life ✨ What to do when fear, triggers, anxiety, or difficult emotions arise ✨ Why thoughts do not need to stop for peace to be present ✨ The role of self-inquiry in spiritual awakening ✨ Living from Pure Being while navigating ordinary life ✨ Why nothing has gone wrong, even when you feel disconnected One of the most powerful insights shared in this conversation is the recognition that the Infinite I AM never leaves. Even when we feel triggered, distracted, fearful, or caught in old patterns, the Infinite I AM remains exactly where it has always been, here, now, untouched and available. As Jody shares, "We're not looking for the I AM. We're looking from the I AM." If you've ever struggled with meditation, wondered why spiritual seeking can feel exhausting, or sensed there must be something deeper than self-improvement, this conversation offers a refreshing and practical invitation into a more direct experience of peace, awareness, and your true nature. 👉🏼 Interested in going deeper? In her new four-part live series, Jody Agard offers a radically different approach: meditation isn’t about controlling your experience, but discovering the awareness that’s already here. Through self-inquiry, guided meditation, and practical exploration, you’ll discover how to relate to your thoughts with less struggle, experience greater ease and clarity, and carry that grounded awareness into relationships, decisions, and daily challenges. ➡️ Click here to learn more and reserve your spot. Support the show Continue your spiritual awakening journey with ongoing live teachings! Free to join. Find out more here. Listen + Subscribe Stay up to date and tune in at centerforawakening.org/podcast ... You can also access the Awareness Podcast on your favorite podcast app and on the CFA YouTube Channel. This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Awakening, a nonprofit dedicated to supporting the journey of awakening to our true nature — and the natural peace and happiness that is always present. Explore courses, events, and resources at: centerforawakening.org