The Setlist of Life

Leslie, Kirsten, Christine, & Aaron
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Four former members of the band “Dolly4Sue” reunite to give a witty personal account their cool, and not so cool, adventures over the last decade as musicians in a “Mom band”. Listen in as they lean on each other while balancing life, family, and music. You just might find yourself finding yourself along the way.

  1. Sep 1

    148 I Will Always Love You

    In this episode, the bandmates of Dolly for Sue honor Dolly Parton's legacy, acknowledge a past research mishap with humor and grace, and dive into the "Music Reposition Game" — a creative exercise that asks: If you remixed this song into a different genre or context, what would it become? The crew rates classic artists from Pink Floyd to The Police, Adam Ant to Pink, exploring why liking a band doesn't always mean loving their music. They wrestle with generational taste, discuss why your kids reject your favorite songs, and uncover surprising truths about nostalgia, influence, and artistic reinvention. In between, they share stories from the Iowa State Fair — 130,000 people, pork chops on sticks, and hot tub salesmen who view the fair as their Super Bowl. They tour childhood homes, laugh at cemetery mishaps, and grapple with identity shifts as a band in their fifties. Key Themes: Music appreciation as emotional intelligenceHow creatives navigate family life and agingAuthentic error-correction in podcastingThe joy of reinvention and "second acts"Why analog nostalgia still matters in 2026 Perfect for: musicians, podcast fans, Gen X listeners seeking depth without gatekeeping, parents navigating creative identity with kids. "THE SETLIST"00:02 – Track 1: The Dolly Parton Tribute & Why One Person Changed Everything 02:23 – Track 2: Apologies & Corrections — What Happens When You Get Your Research Wrong 04:07 – Track 3: How Listeners Keep Podcasters Honest (And Why That Matters) 06:24 – Track 4: The Iowa State Fair Road Trip — 130,000 People & One Unforgettable Uber Driver 08:31 – Track 5: Weird Fair Food & Why You Never Eat As Much As You Plan 10:53 – Track 6: The Hot Tub Sales Guys Know Something You Don't 13:13 – Track 7: Family Traditions & Cemetery Day Laughs (A Slab-Happy Sidebar) 17:40 – Track 8: How to Get the Wrong T-Shirt Size & Still Love It (Graziano's Story) 19:38 – Track 9: Scooping the Loop — What Gen X Did Before Smartphones 21:55 – Track 10: The Music Reposition Game — Reimagining Classic Rock & 80s Pop 26:17 – Track 11: Pink Floyd's Dark Side — Why Moods Matter More Than Melody 28:28 – Track 12: Can You Use Pink Floyd in a Commercial? (And What Would It Sell?) 30:46 – Track 13: Jack & Diane Hate — Why Your Kid Might Reject Your Favorite Song 32:42 – Track 14: Measuring Your Vibe — The 1–5 Scale for Life's Soundtrack 34:19 – Track 15: Pink (the Artist) — Why Incredible Talent Doesn't Always Equal Your Genre 36:25 – Track 16: The Police Reunion Nobody Saw Coming (And Why Sting Went Solo) 38:27 – Track 17: Disturbed's "Sound of Silence" — When Heavy Metal Saves a Simon & Garfunkel Classic 42:31 – Track 18: Max Headroom & the 80s Synth Pop Mystery 44:48 – Track 19: Will 80s Synth Pop Come Back? (Spoiler: It Already Has) 48:26 – Track 20: Adam Ant at 72 — Why Your Favorite 80s Idols Still Tour 50:03 – Track 21: Goody Two Shoes & the Strangest Career Pivots in Music 53:20 – Track 22: Planning Episode 150 — What Do Four Music Lovers Actually Want? 55:29 – Track 23: Thrashgrass Dolly — When Genre Mashups Become Real 57:53 – Track 24: Scotcharoos & Advent Calendars — How a Band Bonds Over Treats 59:48 – Track 25: 148 Episodes Later — How Four People Built Something Real 🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM"We're not five stars anymore, and that's the whole point. At 50, your taste gets honest, your stories get funnier, and your favorite song doesn't have to be everyone else's." "What should you do if you mix up two different artists in a podcast?""Why does Pink Floyd matter 50 years later?""How do you enjoy music you don't naturally like?""What makes the Iowa State Fair the hot tub capital?""Can you really walk through Hollywood as Dolly Parton in drag?"

    148 I Will Always Love You

  2. Aug 25

    147 Ramble On (Again)

    In this episode of Set List of Life, the band tackles one of rock's greatest travel anthems—Led Zeppelin's "Ramble On"—while unpacking real conversations about family, books, personality types, and why some people can't stop talking to themselves. It starts with a personality quiz that reveals which band member you actually are. The conversation spirals into The Hobbit debate—why getting kids to read classics requires patience, audiobooks, and the Libby app—before pivoting to the elephant in the room: Leslie's Iowa State Fair adventure. What did she eat? Everything. What was she skeptical about? The butter cow, mysteriously positioned so far behind glass it might be plastic. The band investigates state fairs across America, the secret music scene in Des Moines bars, carnival games rigged with magnets, and why the Intimidator ride at King's Dominion makes people pass out (a phenomenon no one can fully explain). Later, the crew explores whether you have background music playing in your head while you walk, why Dan Fogarty isn't Dan Fogelberg (and why that matters), and the surprisingly normal experience of having an internal monologue that occasionally makes you flinch in public. There's also urgent pet-sitting news, a potential rescue dog matching, and a gentle reminder that creative people in midlife aren't just managing band schedules—they're moving their kids into college apartments, adopting giant cats, and trying to deep-clean their houses. Best for: Classic rock fans, road musicians, parents navigating identity shifts, fair enthusiasts, and anyone who's ever sung the same song for three hours straight. 🎵 THE SETLIST 00:00 – TRACK 1: Introduction & Tonight's Song – Why "Ramble On" by Led Zeppelin Matters to Road Musicians 02:07 – TRACK 2: The Hobbit Debate – Getting Your Kids to Love Classics (Why Your First Read Matters) 05:06 – TRACK 3: Which Band Member Are You? – Taking the Personality Quiz & What Your Results Reveal 10:14 – TRACK 4: The Sneakers Theory – What Your Subconscious Choice Says About How You Live 12:36 – TRACK 5: The Iowa State Fair Deep Dive – What Adults Really Need to Know Before You Go 14:49 – TRACK 6: The Butter Cow Conspiracy – Why This Fair Icon Seems Impossibly Far Away 17:15 – TRACK 7: Fair Food Rankings – Lobster Rolls, Pork Chops on Sticks & What's Actually Worth $70 19:07 – TRACK 8: State Fairs Across America – Why Iowa's Fair Matters & How Yours Compares 21:10 – TRACK 9: The Aldi Adventure – Why You Keep Going Back (It's Just About the Cheese) 23:34 – TRACK 10: Carnival Rides & Passing Out – Why Some Amusement Park Rides Are Dangerous (And Why People Love Them) 25:41 – TRACK 11: The Animals & The Livestock – Why State Fairs Are Educational (Even If You Don't Plan It) 28:01 – TRACK 12: Fair Bars & Live Music – Des Moines' Hidden Music Scene & Why You Should Explore It 30:08 – TRACK 13: Dressing for the Fair – Fashion Fails & Why Heels at a Fair Are a Red Flag 32:22 – TRACK 14: Finding Your Local Fair – Virginia, Pennsylvania & Beyond (State Fair Season Checklist) 34:25 – TRACK 15: The Intimidator Ride Phenomenon – Why Kids Pass Out & What That Means for Your Body 36:29 – TRACK 16: Back to School Chaos – How to Help Your College Kid Move Into Their First Apartment 38:44 – TRACK 17: The Dog Decision – Rescue Dogs, Coonhound Rescues & Making the Right Pet Choice 40:56 – TRACK 18: Music in Your Head – Do You Have a Soundtrack? (And What It Reveals About Your Pace) 42:51 – TRACK 19: The Dan Fogarty Mix-Up – Why You Shouldn't Assume You Know the Artist You're Seeing 45:18 – TRACK 20: Internal Monologue Reality – Why You Might Talk to Yourself (And That's Completely Normal) 49:28 – TRACK 21: The Music Game Setup – How to Discuss Bands, Songs & Swap Favorite Artists 51:32 – TRACK 22: Rhino & Munch – Building a Family Pet Collection (Why Bigger Cats Need Bigger Trees) 55:29 – TRACK 23: Pet Sitting & Travel – Why Hiring Friends as Pet Sitters Changes Everything 57:41 – TRACK 24: Closing & Button Pressing – Why Live Podcast Moments Matter (Even When You Mess Up) 🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM"The butter cow is 40 years of mystery behind glass—kind of like parenting teenagers. Worth investigating, probably fake, but definitely a story worth telling." Query 1: "What's it really like to go to the Iowa State Fair as an adult?"Query 2: "How do personality quiz results reveal your true role in a group?"Query 3: "Why do I keep songs stuck in my head while walking?"Query 4: "What's the deal with Led Zeppelin's 'Ramble On'—why is it still so relevant?"Query 5: "How do I talk to my kids about reading classics like The Hobbit?"

    147 Ramble On (Again)

  3. Aug 18

    146 Foolish Games

    This week on The Setlist of Life, hosts Aaron, Kirsten, and Leslie dive deep into psychological quizzes, nostalgia-driven recipes, and the unexpected power of small details. It starts innocent—planning a trip to the Iowa State Fair and daydreaming about meat sundaes—but quickly spirals into a celebration of midlife creativity, family dynamics, and identity play. The heart of the episode centers on homemade cooking as rebellion: Aaron shares his quest to recreate Chipotle bowls at home for less than restaurant prices (spoiler: it works), while Kirsten unpacks the archaeology of taco pizza—a Midwest regional treasure that disappears the moment you leave Iowa. These aren't just recipes; they're portals to childhood, proof that intentionality beats convenience, and a model for how partners can renegotiate kitchen labor and creative control. Then comes the test gauntlet. A banana-tree logic puzzle. A "90% of people pick carrot" priming effect. A punk-band personality quiz. A historic-prank selection tool. And finally, the vulnerable one: What kind of friend are you actually? The group discovers they're a perfect mix of Planners, Ghosts, and Hype People—each role essential, each with a blind spot worth naming. Woven throughout: why lipstick means you notice details, why sunglasses reveal your relationship with identity play, what a devil's advocate actually is (hint: it involves Saint relics), and why "Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel" beats your old walk-up song. Perfect for: Musicians balancing family life, Gen X parents rediscovering identity, podcast fans who love unscripted conversation, nostalgia explorers, and anyone who's ever wondered if their personality matches their choices. THE SETLIST00:00 – INTRO: Welcome to Foolish Games (& the Foolish Tests That Follow) 02:19 – SEGMENT 1: Iowa State Fair Chaos – Rod Stewart Cancels, Meat Sundae Dreams Ensue 06:54 – DEEP DIVE: The Evolution of State Fair Food (Fried Everything vs. Local Traditions) 08:43 – "TACO PIZZA ARCHAEOLOGY": How a Midwest Childhood Becomes a Family Recipe 11:04 – THE COOKING RENAISSANCE: Why Making Chipotle at Home Changed Everything 13:14 – SIDE QUEST: Homemade Dog Food, Cleaner Confusion & the Smell Factor 15:29 – RECIPE TRUTH BOMB: The Secret Ingredients Nobody Tells You About 17:35 – KITCHEN CULTURE SHIFT: How Your Partner Learning to Cook Rewires Family Dynamics 20:04 – PSYCHOLOGY TEST #1: The Banana Tree – What Your Animal Choice Says About You 22:13 – THE PRIMING EFFECT: Why 90% of People Say "Carrot" (And Why You Didn't) 24:35 – RECIPE WINS: Succotash, Tried-and-True Folders & the Hype Around Aaron's Tomatoes 26:59 – PERSONALITY QUIZ: Which Band Role Are You? (The Results Get Weird) 32:22 – MUSICIAN DEEP DIVE: Why Guitarists Lead Bands (And Why Merch Slingers Matter) 34:26 – "PANIC AT THE DISCO" RABBIT HOLE: When Band Knowledge Gaps Become Comedy Gold 36:11 – JACK WHITE ENERGY: Why Musicians Choose Their Friends (& It's Not Random) 38:21 – PRANK HISTORY: The Devil's Advocate & Why the Church Needed Relic Fact-Checkers 40:39 – PERSONALITY TEST #2: Which Historic Prank Would You Pull? (& What It Says About You) 44:05 – MURDER MYSTERY SOLVED: The Windowless Room Logic That Trips Everyone Up 49:05 – THE LIPSTICK CHOICE: Why Small Details Reveal Your Entire Personality 53:01 – SUNGLASSES & PERSONAS: Identity Play Isn't Fake (It's Intentional) 55:23 – THE HARD QUIZ: "What Kind of Friend Are You Actually?" (With Room to Grow) 57:42 – GROUP CHAT DYNAMICS: The Ghost, The Planner, The Therapist & The Hype Person 01:10:20 – TEAM ASSESSMENT: How Friends Fit Into Four Friendship Archetypes 01:12:42 – THE PARENTING PARALLEL: Crock Pots, Homemade Dog Food & Letting Go of Control 01:15:02 – WALK-UP SONG EVOLUTION: Why "Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel" Beats "Shoop" 01:16:56 – OUTRO & ASSIGNMENT: Pick Your Walk-Up Song (Yours Due Next Week) 🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM"You don't have to play the lead to keep the band alive. Sometimes the best solo is knowing when to let someone else shine—and making sure the merch slingers get thanked." How do you recreate Chipotle at home for less money?What makes taco pizza different from regular pizza?Why do small details matter more than people think?What's the best walk-up song for confidence?How do you balance being a parent and a musician?

    146 Foolish Games

  4. Aug 11

    145 Knock On Wood

    The Setlist of Life: Summer Adventures, Band Life & Raising Kids Without Urgency In this deeply conversational episode, the Dolly for Sue bandmates—Leslie (vocals), Aaron (guitar), Christine (drums), and Kirsten (keyboard)—reflect on summer adventures, parenting paradoxes, and the gap between Gen X intentionality and Gen Z digital passivity. The conversation weaves together personal travel stories: a panic-inducing hike in Rocky Mountain National Park, a beach week of unexpected solitude, Florida kayaking through mangroves, and a stay at the (non-haunted) Stanley Hotel. Threaded throughout are hilarious detours into lip-sync contest history, airplane movie ethics, algorithm-recommended art horror, and sea turtle conservation becoming a passionate obsession. At its core, the episode explores how parenting has shifted post-COVID—kids grew up in isolation and emerged without the deadline urgency previous generations developed. The band reflects on their own coming-of-age (crop tops at lip-sync contests, MTV music, mixtape culture) versus watching their children manage thousands of unread emails with zen indifference. There's genuine warmth here: not blame, but curiosity about how isolation rewires work ethic and attention. Music nostalgia anchors the conversation—from Amy Stewart's "Knock on Wood" (1979) to Z Top's "Legs" to Cruel Summer and Banana Rama. Pop culture meanders through The Princess Bride, Salt Burn, and Breaking Bad co-watching rituals. And a book recommendation emerges: Dungeon Crawler Carl, a genre-bending sci-fi series that hooks readers in ways Harry Potter fans understand. For parents navigating midlife creativity, Gen X identity, and the strange new world of raising resilient (if urgency-free) kids, this episode offers permission to laugh, worry a little less, and appreciate the adventures—and misadventures—that bind families together. THE SETLIST0:00 – Track [1]: The Disco Lightning Song That Started It All (Knock on Wood by Amy Stewart, 1979, and why storms make for great memories) 2:06 – Track [2]: How We Got Disqualified from the Lip Sync Contest (Conservative schools, crop tops, and the licking incident nobody saw coming) 4:17 – Track [3]: Why Methodist Youth Groups Were More Forgiving Than We Expected (Z Top's "Legs," double standards, and what the church actually cared about) 6:28 – Track [4]: What It's Like Watching Classic Movies for the First Time as an Adult (The Princess Bride revelation, airplane etiquette, and why new planes have privacy screens) 8:40 – Track [5]: The Movie Nobody Warns You About on Airplane Wifi (Salt Burn, deviant behavior, and why some films shouldn't be in rotation) 10:50 – Track [6]: When Your Algorithm Starts Suggesting Lamb Baby Art (Weird internet recommendations, curated trauma, and what it says about your taste) 13:17 – Track [7]: The Waterfall Panic: A Parent's Worst Nightmare (and Why Communication Matters) (Hiking at elevation, kids wandering off, the search for Joey, real-time parental anxiety) 15:40 – Track [8]: Elevation, Heart Health & Mountain Adventures After a Heart Attack (Recovery story, training at altitude, why family hikes get complicated) 17:48 – Track [9]: Natural Selection at Yellowstone: Why People Pet Bison & Fall Into Geysers (National park stupidity, Instagram selfies gone wrong, and Darwin's observations) 20:05 – Track [10]: The Stanley Hotel: Ghost Tours, The Shining, and Haunted Condo Mishaps (Colorado adventure, broken hot tubs, ceiling holes, and no paranormal activity—yet) 22:24 – Track [11]: The Beach Week You Actually Got to Yourself (Empty pool days, reading books, no entertaining required—the first solo vacation) 24:43 – Track [12]: Kayaking in Mangroves, Brackish Water & The Alligator You Never Thought About (Florida adventure, airboat tours, and why physical activity overrides predator anxiety) 26:40 – Track [13]: Catching Sharks While Fishing for Reds (And How to Get the Hook Out) (Beach fishing gone awry, bonnet sharks, pliers as essential fishing gear, and why Kirsten's staying poolside) 28:53 – Track [14]: The Toadfish Discovery: When Nature's Design Seems Like a Mistake (What's a toadfish? Frog-fish hybrids, croaking sounds, and the joy of learning something new) 31:19 – Track [15]: Becoming a Turtle-Saving Zealot (One Hole at a Time) (Sea turtle nesting season, beach conservation, sand castle etiquette, and generational differences) 33:31 – Track [16]: Summer School Survival: AP Econ, Physics, and the Parent in the Chair Next Door (Academic pressure, helicopter parenting, deadline excuses, and the "teacher hasn't graded it yet" myth) 35:39 – Track [17]: Why Gen Z Has No Urgency (And Whose Fault That Actually Is) (COVID isolation, late submissions, 1500 unread emails, and the test score excuses) 37:55 – Track [18]: Email Organization: Zero Inbox vs. Chaos (What It Says About You) (Digital habits, spam filtering, family email history, and why Joey missed his deadline) 39:51 – Track [19]: Blaming the Pandemic: How COVID Shaped a Generation's Work Ethic (Inward focus, isolation effects, growing up during lockdown, and parental guilt) 42:07 – Track [20]: The Middle School Reprieve (And Why High School Participation Is Coming Back) (Parent involvement cycles, sports commitments, PTA fatigue, and the nostalgia of stepping back) 44:15 – Track [21]: Kids' Shows Ranked: From Backyard Friends to Peep in the Big Wide World (PBS classics, celebrity guest stars, educational TV that actually holds adult attention) 49:27 – Track [22]: The Mystery Show Nobody Can Remember (And Why AI Can't Help) (Science-based kids' programming, lost media, collective memory failures, Story Bots redemption) 51:45 – Track [23]: What We're Watching Right Now (OA, Ted Lasso, Breaking Bad, Young Sheldon) (Streaming culture, palate cleansing, co-watching with teens, and why some shows trigger) 53:50 – Track [24]: Dungeon Crawler Carl: The Book Series Nobody Expected to Love (Genre-bending sci-fi, audiobook vs. print, addiction reading, and the Harry Potter comparison) 56:10 – Track [25]: Summer Reading & the Library Waitlist (A Parting Recommendation) (Book culture, library demand, what's trending with adult readers, and why this one hooks you) BACKSTAGE WISDOM"Your kids aren't lazy—they're just processing urgency through a pandemic filter. Same bandwidth, different threat assessment. Stop asking them to care like you do, and start asking them what actually makes them move." "How do you handle anxiety when your kids wander off in nature?" "What was 'Knock on Wood' by Amy Stewart about? (1979 disco song)" "Why do kids have no sense of urgency about deadlines and emails?" "How to get kids to fill in beach holes to protect sea turtle nests?" "Best lip sync contest songs for adults + how to not get disqualified?"

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  5. Jul 28

    144 Thank You For Being A Friend

    The Setlist of Life returns after its longest hiatus to celebrate reconnection, resilience, and the messy reality of midlife summers. In this candid band reunion, Leslie, Aaron, and Kirsten catch up on everything summer threw at them: mysterious injuries that appear overnight, pets discovering their warrior instincts, close calls with tornadoes, and the quiet comedy of being invisible to airline staff. The session kicks off with an exploration of the high-low game—a deceptively simple family communication tool—before spiraling into stories of extreme weather, family weddings, barn power outages, and the peculiar humiliation of being physically outmatched at an escape room designed for teenagers. Beyond the laughs, this episode maps the invisible terrain of midlife: how bodies change without warning, how identity gets refreshed through small choices (vintage sunglasses, retro music), and how showing up for family priorities sometimes means missing your own commitments. There's grief for an absent bandmate, celebration of kids becoming adults who out-athlete their parents, and honest reckoning with aging memory, responsibility, and the pressure to consume holidays before we've finished the current season. For audiences seeking: authentic midlife conversations, family dynamics that actually reflect real life, Gen X nostalgia without saccharine framing, and permission to laugh at your own limitations. THE SETLIST | **0:00** | **Intro: Thank You for Being a Friend** — The Band Returns After Their Longest Break | Nostalgia anchor (Golden Girls theme); band identity; reconnection ritual | | **1:37** | **Track 1: The High-Low Game — A Simple Tool for Family Conversations** | Parenting hack; family communication; dinner table ritual | | **2:45** | **Track 2: Fashion Reboot at Midlife — Retro Sunglasses & Finding Your Icon** | Personal reinvention; aging identity; Gen X nostalgia (Tom Selleck) | | **4:02** | **Track 3: Waking Up Injured — Why Bodies Betray Us in Our 50s** | Midlife health; mysterious joint pain; accepting physical changes | | **6:15** | **Track 4: Cat as Warrior — When Your Pet Finds Their Second Act** | Pet behavior; instinct; personality transformation; pride & purpose | | **8:45** | **Track 5: The Smell of Death in the Carpet — A Problem No Clorox Can Solve** | Dark humor; home maintenance nightmare; unresolvable messes (life metaphor) | | **10:20** | **Track 6: Caught in a Tornado Without Knowing — Surviving Extreme Weather Obliviously** | Climate resilience; close calls; gratitude reframe; barn power outages (recurring theme) | | **16:30** | **Track 7: Airboats, Gators & Raw Chicken — Adventure Tourism Gets Weird** | Travel stories; risk & thrill; humor under absurdity; Everglades tourism | | **21:15** | **Track 8: The First-Class Luggage Incident — When You're Not Welcome in Someone Else's Space** | Class dynamics; travel etiquette; boundary crossing; airline gatekeeping | | **25:10** | **Track 9: Level 99 — Why Ninja Warrior Humbles Midlife Moms** | Physical challenge; aging ego; laughing at limitations; mother-son dynamics | | **32:10** | **Track 10: Iowa State Fair Planning — Nostalgia as Life Event** | Generational return; ritual; Americana; butter sculptures & fried food culture | | **34:25** | **Track 11: The Wrong Jacket at a Wedding — A Comedy of Miscalculation** | Family shenanigans; tall-kid problems; reconciliation; grace from strangers | | **41:00** | **Track 12: Holiday Scaling & Seasonal Anticipation — Can We Please Enjoy Summer First?** | Consumer culture criticism; seasonal marketing; mindfulness; pacing life | | **50:15** | **Track 13: The Gas Tank You Already Filled — Senior Moments Get Real** | Aging memory; responsibility gone sideways; self-awareness & humor | | **52:30** | **Track 14: A Scar Story (Not from a Knife Fight)** — Vanity & Recovery After a Fall | Midlife injury; healing; reframing scars; window-shopping while walking | | **59:20** | **Outro: As Long as There Are Highs, We'll Be Back** | Resilience framing; podcast commitment; Gen X authenticity | 🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM"Your band won't die from summer breaks—it dies from pretending the breaks don't hurt. Show up when you can, say goodbye when you can't, and always keep the light on for the ones who wander in late." "How do parents stay connected with grown kids during summer schedules?" "What's the high-low game and how do you play it with family?" "Why do midlife women injure themselves doing normal activities?" "What happens when you accidentally put luggage in first-class overhead bins?" "How to talk to kids about anxiety in extreme weather events?"

    144 Thank You For Being A Friend

  6. Jun 16

    143 Thunder Rolls

    Thunder Rolls & Tiny Scammers: When Storms, Strangers & Summer Plans CollideThis episode of The Set List of Life kicks off with a real thunderstorm that nearly flooded a family dinner—then escalates into a night of unexpected conversations about safety, accountability, and what it means to parent in 2026. After playing a creative song-synonym guessing game (featuring Garth Brooks, Michael Jackson, and Wrecking Ball), the band pivots to two intense public-space incidents: a woman accusing someone of taking her photo at a Caitlin Clark WNBA game, and a violent confrontation at a Pitt–Penn State football game. Both stories spark a larger question: Why do strangers behave recklessly in crowded urban spaces? The answer: anonymity erodes accountability. The conversation then drifts into travel safety—pickpockets in Paris, child scammers in Venice, and the unexpected anti-theft toolkit for families (RFID wallets, AirTags, Tiles). There's a hilarious detour about a neighbor whose oversized wallet actually saved him from a pickpocket. The episode closes with summer planning: Christine's camping trip to Congaree National Park (versus glamping debates), school calendar frustrations, and the perennial parental challenge of structured boredom. Through it all, the band wrestles with a deeper Gen X anxiety: How do you raise resilient kids in a world that feels simultaneously safer (tech-enabled) and more chaotic (strangers online and off)? Perfect for parents, travelers, music fans, and anyone navigating midlife identity shifts. The Setlist00:02 – Track 1: Welcome to Thunder Rolls – Dolly for Sue's Storm Night Kickoff 02:20 – Track 2: The Convertible Gamble – When Bad Weather Tests Your Parenting Luck 04:47 – Track 3: School Calendars & Holiday Chaos – Why Fairfax County Parents Lose Their Minds 07:05 – Track 4: The Summer Boredom Blueprint – How to Structure Kids' Time (Without Screens Taking Over) 09:21 – Track 5: Song Title Brain Game – Can You Guess the Hit from Synonyms Only? 15:59 – Track 6: When Fans Go Feral – The Caitlin Clark Game Incident & Stranger Danger at Sports Events 18:21 – Track 7: The Accusation – Why a Woman Screamed at Kevin Over "Taking Her Picture" 22:54 – Track 8: Road Rage at Penn State – Another Story of Public Aggression & Lost Accountability 24:52 – Track 9: Small Town vs. Big City Brain – Why Anonymity Changes How Humans Behave 27:04 – Track 10: Tales from the Louvre – Pickpockets, Big Wallets & Travel Safety Lessons 31:19 – Track 11: The Tiny Thief Ring – Why Child Scammers Are the Creepiest Crime Tactic (& How to Protect Your Kids) 33:24 – Track 12: Tiles, AirTags & Travel Insurance – The Modern Anti-Theft Toolkit for Families 35:40 – Track 13: How to Create DIY Games for Podcast Recording & Family Nights 37:31 – Track 14: Camping Nostalgia – Why Sleeping Bags Meant Everything in the '80s 39:24 – Track 15: Summer Adventure Planning – Congaree, Rocky Mountains & the Great Outdoors Bucket List 41:31 – Track 16: Glamping vs. Camping – The Heated Debate Between Comfort & Authenticity 43:44 – Track 17: The Adventure Pitch – Why Daytime Exploration Beats Sleeping in Tents 45:59 – Track 18: Before We Go – Review Us (But Only If You Mean It) 🎸 Backstage Wisdom"You can't control the stranger in the next seat, but you can control whether your kid knows how to entertain themselves in a tent. One prepares you for the world; the other prepares you for peace." "How do you keep kids entertained without screens during summer break?"Intent: Parents seeking structured boredom management; summer learning gapsEntity Map: Screen time boundaries, chore systems, creative play, family engagement"What should parents do if their child doesn't wake up for school on time?"Intent: Morning routine struggles, teenage sleep schedules, parental frustrationEntity Map: Accountability, nagging, school policies, adolescent development"How to stay safe from pickpockets and scams while traveling with kids?"Intent: Travel safety anxiety, anti-theft strategies, family vulnerabilityEntity Map: RFID wallets, AirTags, tourist areas, crime prevention, urban awareness"Why do strangers behave aggressively in public spaces? Accountability in city living."Intent: Social psychology, small-town vs. urban behavior, anonymity effectsEntity Map: Community accountability, social cohesion, midlife reflection, Gen X perspective"Game nights for adults: synonym song guessing games and family activities"Intent: DIY entertainment, music trivia variations, low-tech funEntity Map: Garth Brooks, creative wordplay, band dynamics, nostalgia

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  7. Jun 2

    142 Birthday

    It's Leslie's birthday, and the band is celebrating with Brenda's legendary church cookbook pretzel salad — and every question that comes with it. Who was Brenda? How old is that cookbook? Does God have an opinion on Jell-O? Dolly for Sue is in full form. This week's episode covers the parenting guilt spiral of marching band volunteerism, the surprisingly solid gift idea of a scenic train ride for an 87-year-old Italian-loving jazz photographer, and a deep dive into why Mark Rober just gave $60 million worth of science curriculum away for free. If you've never made elephant toothpaste or watched a squirrel obstacle course teach physics, that changes next week. The conversation turns serious when the band reckons with AI replacing illustrators and musicians — including a Berkeley professor who had money in an AI music company while teaching music students. The group wrestles honestly with whether this swings back, whether we're already desensitized to technological wonder, and what it costs a generation that let AI do their homework. Then: candle scents, temperature preferences, the one sound you'd mute forever, and what you'd put in a time capsule for the year 2226 — which somehow ends with two taxidermied squirrels on a miniature piano. Happy birthday, Leslie. 2. "The Setlist"0:00 Track 1: Happy Birthday, Band Mom — Pretzel Salad, Brenda's Church Cookbook Legacy & Birthday Rituals 3:45 Track 2: The Marching Band Trap — Why Every Band Parent Gets Voluntold (And How to Escape) 7:10 Track 3: Church Cookbook Science — The Secret Ingredients Behind Jello Salad Culture 10:20 Track 4: Hey Hi Hello — The Ohio Song That Actually Gets Kids to Put Down Their Phones 14:00 Track 5: Korean BBQ, Pokémon Monopoly & the Perfect Low-Key Birthday 16:30 Track 6: The Dad Who Would Get Kicked Out — Why Honest Men Can't Run Band Boosters 18:45 Track 7: Pineapple Roots & Wild Strawberries — When Your Garden Raises Itself 22:00 Track 8: The Train Ride Idea — Gift Planning for an 87-Year-Old Who's Seen Everything 24:30 Track 9: Mark Rober, Crunch Labs & the $60 Million Bet on Free Science Education 28:15 Track 10: Glitter Bombs, Porch Pirates & the Cartel That Ended the Series 30:00 Track 11: Elephant Toothpaste Live — Why We're Doing Science Experiments Next Episode 32:10 Track 12: AI Music at Berkeley — Why an Entire Student Body Petitioned Against Their Own Professor 34:00 Track 13: Will AI Kill Creative Careers? The Illustrator Who Can't Get Hired Anymore 36:30 Track 14: From iPhone Wonder to AI Fatigue — How Fast We Stopped Being Amazed 39:30 Track 15: Candle Scent Philosophy — What Your Signature Smell Says About Your Personality 42:50 Track 16: Too Hot or Too Cold? The Great Temperature Debate That Split the Band 45:10 Track 17: If You Muted One Sound Forever — The Dog Lick, the Alarm & the Worry in Your Head 49:00 Track 18: Last Person on Earth — You've Got Two Weeks Before the Power Grid Dies 52:30 Track 19: The Legacy Box — One Physical Object, One Digital File, 200 Years From Now 56:45 Track 20: Two Squirrels on a Tiny Piano Playing "Heart and Soul" — Closing Time Counterintuitive InsightsVolunteering guilt is a feature, not a bug. Band programs and school organizations are specifically designed to recruit people who make eye contact. Awareness doesn't protect you — it just makes you feel worse when it works anyway.Desensitization to AI may be the beginning of its correction. The band argues that the societal craving for human creative work will return — not because AI gets worse, but because once everything feels generated, handmade becomes rare enough to be valuable again.Dogs and cats may have adapted their voices specifically to talk to us. Barking and meowing aren't natural inter-animal communication — they're behaviors shaped by thousands of years of living with humans. Which means Albert the dog's silence felt like losing a conversation partner, not background noise.Additional Information & ReferencesPeople & Artists Mentioned Mark Rober — former NASA engineer, YouTube science creator, founder of Crunch Labs; recent TED Talk on science education reform; creator of the Porch Pirate Glitter Bomb seriesRafi (Raffi Cavoukian) — Canadian children's musicianLaurie Berkner — children's music artist; mentioned as a live concert experienceSandra Boynton — author/illustrator of children's books; produces music CDs featuring artists including the Bacon Brothers and Alison KraussThey Might Be Giants — indie rock band with a substantial catalog of children's musicJim Gill — children's musician; "Hey Hi Hello" referenced as a library program songJacob Collier — Grammy-winning musician; referenced as the 2025 UC Berkeley commencement speakerBilly Joel — "Honesty" referenced (1979, 52nd Street)Sheryl Crow — "The First Cut Is the Deepest" referenced (though originally Rod Stewart/Cat Stevens)Allison Krauss — bluegrass/country artist; appeared on a Sandra Boynton children's music projectConcepts & Resources Crunch Labs — Mark Rober's STEM subscription and curriculum company; crunchlabs.comOobleck — non-Newtonian fluid (cornstarch + water); behaves as solid under impact, liquid at restElephant toothpaste — chemistry demonstration using hydrogen peroxide, yeast, and dish soap; produces rapid foam expansion; safe at low concentrations for home useSuno — AI music generation company; referenced in context of conflict-of-interest controversy at BerkeleyRed Truck Bakery — bakery referenced as source of the almond birthday cake; redtruckbakery.comPretzel Salad (Brenda's recipe) — classic Midwestern church cookbook dessert: pretzel crust, cream cheese/whipped cream/marshmallow layer, strawberry Jell-O toppingIreland Singles Week — annual matchmaking festival in Lisdoonvarna, County Clare, Ireland; held each SeptemberFilms & TV Referenced Sing (2016 animated film) — "Set Me Free" referencedZoom (2006 film) — nostalgically referencedPleibruis / Pleuribus — post-apocalyptic "last person on earth" TV premise referenced (possibly Y: The Last Man or similar)Home Alone — referenced in context of Porch Pirate Glitter Bomb reaction7. 🎸 Backstage WisdomBrenda's been gone for decades, her name's in no search engine, and she still made it onto a podcast in 2026. Write down your recipes, people. Legacy is just a church cookbook nobody threw away."What do you do when you get guilt-tripped into volunteering for your kid's activities?""Is AI replacing human musicians and artists, and will it swing back?""Why is Mark Rober's science curriculum free and how does it work for teachers?""How do you find a meaningful gift for an elderly father-in-law in his late 80s?""What is it actually like being a parent in a band — the real time commitment?"

    142 Birthday

  8. May 26

    141 I love a Rainy Night

    Sleep Apnea, Smeg Coffee Pots & Strawberry Pretzel Salad: A Midlife Wellness & Nostalgia Deep Dive" Four bandmates (Dolly for Sue) navigate rainy nights, lawn care timing, and the chaos of reinventing themselves as creatives in midlife. This episode weaves together unexpected wellness realities—sleep studies, nerve pinching from over-exercising, and the massage paradox—with 80s-style nostalgia (the "9-to-9" phone rule), food-as-culture (Pittsburgh jello salads, Guinness trivia, strawberry pretzel desserts), and parenting adult children in the age of 3 a.m. texts. Hosts explore why audiobooks work for long drives, debate whether new kitchen appliances trigger kitchen redesigns, and confront the honest truth about plant propagation: sometimes you just want the plant to look nice—you don't need to become a botanist. A candid conversation about aging, creativity, boundaries, leisure time overtraining, and what it means to feel invisible until you decide to perform. Key Topics: Sleep apnea alternatives, clavicle nerve impingement & physical therapy, deep tissue massage benefits, sourdough starter care, pineapple crown propagation (the right way), streaming culture vs. movie theaters, midlife band formation, parenting boundaries, Guinness lore, and why dessert trivia matters. 🎵 THE SETLIST00:00 – Track 1: "I Love the Rainy Nights" & Why Lawn Care Waits for Rain 02:08 – Track 2: The 9-to-9 Rule: How One Generation Drew Phone Call Boundaries 04:14 – Track 3: Sleep Study Reality Check – Why You Sleep Better in a Lab Than Home 06:12 – Track 4: Mouth Guards vs. CPAP: The Overlooked Sleep Apnea Alternative 08:21 – Track 5: Overtraining Midlife – When Pilates, Golf & Pickleball Become Dangerous 10:43 – Track 6: The Numb Thumb Nerve Pinch: How Tension Creates Phantom Symptoms 13:06 – Track 7: The Deep Tissue Massage Paradox – Feeling Worse to Feel Better 15:26 – Track 8: The Smeg Coffee Pot Dilemma – When New Kitchen Gear Triggers Total Redesign Anxiety 17:27 – Track 9: Strawberry Pretzel Salad Explained – Why Pittsburgh Calls Jello a "Salad" 19:29 – Track 10: The Strawberry Pretzel Bake-Off Winners & Why This Dessert Matters 21:47 – Track 11: Guinness Trivia Deep Dive – Why Nigeria Drinks More Than Ireland 23:35 – Track 12: Mrs. Guinness Had 21 Children: The Math of Motherhood Chaos 27:17 – Track 13: The Pineapple Crown Propagation Fail – A Case Study in Rushing 31:47 – Track 14: "Project Hail Mary" Audiobook Review – Why Long Drives Need Sci-Fi 34:06 – Track 15: "Riot Women" on BritBox – Invisibility & Rock Bands in Midlife 36:03 – Track 16: The Icelandic Sheep Movie Phenomenon – Why Weird Art Sticks With You 38:22 – Track 17: The Michael Jackson Story – How Family Honesty Made the Documentary 40:34 – Track 18: Devil Wears Prada 2 & Reclining Theater Seats (The Sleep Trap) 42:58 – Track 19: Why Movie Theaters Died (Streaming Speed vs. Ritual) 45:12 – Track 20: Leslie's Birthday Plans – Strawberry Pretzel Salad as Celebration Dessert 47:09 – Track 21: Sourdough Starter Volcano – Why Living Cultures Aren't for Everyone 49:21 – Track 22: Propagating Plants vs. Appreciating Them – The Landscape Architect's Honest Take 52:08 – Track 23: Dead Trees & Parenting Wins – Why Some Things You Can't Kill (Kids) ⚡ COUNTERINTUITIVE INSIGHTSSleep apnea ≠ weight problem. Many fit people with unexplained fatigue or nerve numbness have obstructed airways due to jaw structure, not BMI—yet they're often dismissed as "not needing treatment" because they don't match the stereotype. Medical gatekeeping based on appearance delays diagnosis.Over-exercising in midlife creates the same symptoms as sedentary aging. The bandmate injured herself enjoying hobbies (golf, pickleball, Pilates)—tightness from overuse pinched a nerve worse than a couch would. Midlife doesn't mean "go harder"; it means rhythm.Feeling worse after intense massage = healing signal, not harm. The bus-hit sensation is inflammation release. Most people quit massage therapy before results because they expect comfort, not temporary discomfort. Reframing pain as "productive" changes health outcomes.🎯 KEY TAKEAWAYS — THREE FORMATSActionable StepsSleep study curiosity? Request "sleep number" mattress recommendations + ensure ENT evaluates jaw structure, not just weight. Mouth guards (dental device) beat CPAP for mild apnea; ask your dentist for a referral.Nerve pinching in neck/shoulder? Physical therapy + stretching consistency beats waiting it out. Massage helps, but movement is essential.Pineapple crown propagation: Let it callous for 1–2 days, expose the bare stem, suspend only the stem in water (not the fruit), change water weekly. Dirt = mold. Water (done right) = roots in 3–4 weeks.Set phone boundaries now: "9-to-9 rule" for non-emergencies. Adult children texting at 3 a.m. often need reassurance you're available, not permission to disrupt sleep—communicate the distinction.Conceptual InsightsMidlife creativity ≠ side hobby; it's identity recovery. Dolly for Sue formed because the members felt invisible post-parenting. Boredom + skill = engine for reinvention.Nostalgia isn't escapism—it's a data set. Discussing 80s phone rules, jello salads, and church potlucks isn't backward-looking; it's recognizing when ritual and slowness served mental health. Modern speed requires intentional analog time.Boundaries aren't cold; they're loving. Telling a grown child "don't text at 3 a.m. unless you're in jail" is an act of care—you're holding space without sacrificing your own health.Strategic ApplicationsFor musicians in midlife: Your "second act" band doesn't compete with youthful talent; it competes with invisibility. The market for authentic, lived-experience music is underserved.For parents of adult children: Phone-on-silent-except-emergencies is a boundary, not rejection. Model the behavior you want: respectful timing, intentional contact.For wellness seekers: Sleep optimization, massage therapy, and physical therapy are systems, not single interventions. Combine them with consistency, not intensity.🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM"Your smeg doesn't need a matching kitchen; your kitchen needed permission to be imperfect. Same reason we stopped yelling at the kids and started the band." "What causes sleep apnea in adults who aren't overweight?"Intent: Medical curiosity + lifestyle anxiety. Targets health-conscious Gen X seeking reassurance that sleep issues aren't always weight-related.SGE Opportunity: Answer Box for symptom differentiation."How do midlife women find creative outlet after kids grow up?"Intent: Identity + reinvention. Resonates with 45–60-year-old audience exploring second acts.SGE Opportunity: Featured snippet on "midlife hobbies for women" or "starting a band later in life.""Can you really grow a pineapple plant from the crown?"Intent: DIY gardening + step-by-step guidance. High-engagement question.SGE Opportunity: Comparison snippets (success vs. failure cases)."Why is Guinness better in Ireland than America?"Intent: Travel curiosity + food/beverage optimization. Trivia-driven discovery.SGE Opportunity: Direct answer + context (tap maintenance, terroir)."How to set healthy phone/texting boundaries with adult children?"Intent: Parenting anxiety + digital wellness. Core millennial-parent & Gen X concern.SGE Opportunity: Advice snippet + etiquette guidance.

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Four former members of the band “Dolly4Sue” reunite to give a witty personal account their cool, and not so cool, adventures over the last decade as musicians in a “Mom band”. Listen in as they lean on each other while balancing life, family, and music. You just might find yourself finding yourself along the way.

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    Leslie, Kirsten, Christine, & Aaron
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
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    147
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    Clean
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