In this episode of Faith & Clarity, Dr. Mark Turman and Steph Thurling are joined by author Randy Alcorn to discuss his children's book Heaven on Earth and the biblical promise of a new heaven and new earth. Drawing on 2 Peter 3 and other passages, Randy contrasts the common disembodied, "clouds and harps" view of heaven with Scripture's emphasis on resurrection bodies and a renewed earth where God removes the curse and restores creation. Together, they explore how parents can talk with kids about death, grief, memory, and reunions with loved ones, along with hope for those who have lost children or pregnancies and questions about marriage in the resurrection. The conversation closes with a look at disabilities, the role of time in eternity, and why animals, and possibly even pets, have a place in the renewal of "all things." Topics(0:00) Introduction (3:47) New Earth Explained (12:56) Helping Kids Understand (17:06) When to Start Talking to Kids (22:54) Marriage in Resurrection (27:53) Children in Heaven (29:16) Grief With Hope (31:17) Remembering Loved Ones (32:46) Miscarriage And Hope (37:48) Healing Disabilities (42:01) Pets In The New Earth (51:47) Questions About Suffering (55:44) Conclusion ResourcesEternal Perspectives MinistryHeaven on Earth bookAsk Us Anything: info@denisonforum.orgSign-up for a Denison Forum newsletter: DenisonForum.org/subscribeAbout Randy AlcornRandy Alcorn is the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries (EPM), a nonprofit organization dedicated to teaching biblical truth and drawing attention to the needy and how to help them. EPM exists to meet the needs of the unreached, unfed, unborn, uneducated, unreconciled and unsupported people around the world. A New York Times bestselling author, Randy has written over sixty books, including Courageous, Heaven, The Treasure Principle, and the Gold Medallion winning novel Safely Home. His books, including on theology, Christian life, murder mysteries, fantasy, graphic novels (comic book style) and Children’s books, have been translated into over 70 languages and have sold over 13 million copies. 100% of his book royalties go to need-meeting ministries. About Steph ThurlingSteph Thurling is the host of The Christian Parenting Podcast. Steph has her master’s in youth, family, and culture from Fuller Theological Seminary and has a background in youth and children’s ministry. She is co-author of Raising Prayerful Kids, a book that shares easy, life-giving, and fun ways to teach kids to pray. She loves helping families grow closer to each other and to God through meaningful experiences and conversations. Steph is a frequent speaker at churches and mom groups and is known for her relatable stories, practical ideas, and gentle encouragement. Steph lives in Minnesota with her husband and three amazing and hilarious kids. When she is not hanging out with her family, you can probably find her on a walk with a friend, organizing things that won’t stay organized, or somewhere cozy reading a book. About Dr. Mark TurmanDr. Mark Turman serves as the Executive Director of Denison Forum, where he leads with a passion for equipping believers to navigate today’s complex culture with biblical truth. He is best known as the host of the Faith & Clarity podcast and the lead pastor of the Possum Kingdom Lake Chapel, the in-person congregation of Denison Ministries. Dr. Turman is the coauthor of Sacred Sexuality: Reclaiming God’s Design and Who Am I? What the Bible Says About Identity and Why it Matters. He earned his undergraduate degree from Howard Payne University in Brownwood, Texas, and received his Master of Divinity degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth. He later completed his Doctor of Ministry degree at George W. Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University in Waco. Before joining Denison Forum, Mark served as a pastor for thirty-five years, including twenty-five years as the founding pastor of Crosspoint Church in McKinney, Texas. Mark and his high school sweetheart, Judi, married in 1986. They are proud parents of two adult children and grandparents to three grandchildren. About Denison ForumDenison Forum exists to thoughtfully engage the issues of our day from a biblical perspective, helping believers discern today’s news and culture through the lens of faith. Led by Dr. Jim Denison and a team of contributing writers, we offer trusted insight through The Daily Article, a daily email newsletter and podcast, along with articles, podcasts, interviews, books, and other resources. Together, these form a growing ecosystem of Christ-centered content that equips readers to respond to current events not with fear or partisanship, but with clarity, conviction, and hope. To learn more visit DenisonForum.org. All episodes are produced by Sound of a Rose. For more information, you can visit soundofarose.com.
