Mental Obsession Discussion / Emotional Sobriety / Spiritual Malady

- We Know Jack.
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Our discussion is not partisan, licensed, nor is it an academic or scientific thesis, medical diagnosis, prognosis, philosophy, prescription, discipline, cure or treatment. Based on experience, we neither propose nor oppose any position, person, place, or thing nor do we promote rituals or any religious service - real or imagined.  Listening indicates some interest in solving mental conflicts. Automatic reliance on what you hear is not suggested nor is it a substitute for taking direction from responsible parties you rely on, or are under the care or influence of, including professionals.  Our conversation is about conditions we create, those within our control, even as it can be hard to believe we could have anything to do with such disturbances. Only you can determine if this is your case. If your mental state is wholly out of your control then other people may be your only hope.  There is no greater enemy we face than the one we imagine to be our self. There is no greater impact anyone else can make on our experience since our brain is where choices along with our pain and pleasure zones occur. Induced insanity is a disturbing mental condition. It allows we can simultaneously make believe we have nothing to do with the problem. As a result it is easy to conclude there is nothing we can do about it. No amount of hopelessness can ever overcome this hopeless thought as long as it is maintained.  Mistaking thoughts for reality causes misgivings about Reality and Truth.  Life only seems complicated when we mistake how we think of life and truth as our reality. This position presumes there is not other reality.   Feeling empty, alone, disconnected?  Feeling out of place? Trying to find where you belong, yet never arrive? Seeking, searching, questioning day after day? Trying to feel better, get over the past or get past the present discomfort? Feeling hopeless about hopeless ideas is a good sign that our body language is guiding us accurately - even while we are not listening.   Consideration is contemplative, awakened meditation. Absolute Knowing Awareness is simple because it does not change, it is natural and it is our nature - not an option or negotiatiable.  Awe and inspiration are the realization that all possibility is present here, now, for all that is and all who are—always in all ways. Knowing’s nature is Absolute: not negotiable, occasional, or optional. There is no doubt where there is no question. Reality and Truth are the Substance of Life. Lying has no substance and so generates unhealthy, conflicted turmoil. Loneliness is an accurate reflection of disconnected, baseless thinking. Creating any cause while denying its effects sustains the vicious cycle of obsessive thoughts, which lie at the center of addictive behaviors. Einstein noted: “You cannot fix a problem with the same thinking that created it.” Symptomatic recovery does not cure obsessive mental illness; it cleans the lens so the problem can be seen. Emotional sobriety is sane living. When wrong is seen as wrong it is right. This does not correct the wrong but allows for correction.  Peace on earth does not require the grave thought we must first be being buried in it.

  1. 5D AGO

    MOD Paul VI

    Contact Welcomed Here Responsibility is the ability to respond - responsibly.  Accountablity is the ability to count. Accounting done correctly adds up. Feeling like you don't count is the natural byproduct of thoughts that don't add up since they have no substantive basis. ALL Reality has substance. While substance is largely invisible it is also indivisible - which means it has no parts or pieces to separate or divide so cannot be in conflict. To think we can be separate from It is to think divisively about it and feel disconnected and alone is the natural byproduct of feeling unsubstantive thoughts.  Essence is essential and not optional.  Indivisbility cannot be added to, reduced or fractured. IT IS Perfect Peace Silent and Still Presence. We now this or could not notice conflicts or disturbances. Splitting thougths into fractional concepts with a denominator of zero means no numerator can not be big enought to amount to anyting. When enough is never enough the mental impossbility of turning thoughts into reality has been induced. We do not struggle with Reality, Truth or LIfe. Our mentality struggles with how and what we think of them - along with the imagined self we can think we've become. Addiction is not impossible - but to continue the same thinking while wishfully hoping more insanity will resolve the problem only addes fuel to the fire of more obsessive thinking imagining nothing else can ever be done.  If we didn't know better there would be nothing we could do.   We Know We Know. We Are Aware We Are Aware. We Are as We Are. Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune that are accurately called disorders. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse Nature’s Law and Order and our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing and compound and degrade health. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion. Principles affirm Our Indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality which is impossible to accomplish though we are free to try. Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible gibberish of ignorance - not reality.

    32 min

  2. DEC 13

    MOD Jack III

    Contact Welcomed Here When we are accountable things add up so we feel like we count. Absolute Reality has no reservations or exceptions. We can think IT does and feel isolated and alone while nursing baseless thoughts.   We do not need to understand any story we make-up to recognize the disturbing effects caused by sick thinking.  The idea that facing Reality is complicated is not true. Trying to avoid it for any length of time is infinitely more complicated than facing it honestly. We Know We Know and are also readily and obviously aware even while and when we think and this say we aren’t.  We are free to choose to think whatever and however we think so when we create a sense of condemnation and doom it is the sum of how and what we are thinking about things that is felt.  Practicing this is talking about how and what you think openly and honestly as thought.  Taking seriously the idea that thoughts are reality turns the idea of expressing what we are thinking openly into a seeming external threat - that does not feel funny no matter how silly the premise.  Honesty does not require we be right. Honesty includes talking openly about whatever we are thinking about right or wrong.  To chronically think thoughts are right and never apply them is like sitting in the couch all day wondering how to be productive.  Thinking we ever keep these ideas to our seeming self becomes another secret we think we can keep even while we secrete blood, sweat and anxious, pitiful tears. Self-pity reflects the pitiful useless self we think is all we are. Usefulness is determined by how well we read our body language. Our functional literacy determines the degree to which we utilize our full functional capacity.  If our limited thoughts are imagine to be Reality the potential to rehabilitated and redeem any useless thinking will, by choice, be limited as evidence our wrong thoughts are right. We can create a mess and then blame the mess for the scarcity of our situation.  This only makes sense in induced insanity. To impose doubt where there is none is something we are free to do - but it doesn’t make any sense beyond the limited ideas we make believe are our own seeming reality and truth.   The basis of Existence is Absolute and thus so is Nature. The nature of Nature is our nature; no exceptions, no other options, no doubts since there is no question. All the questionable doubts we encounters are not mysteries of the universe but a mystery as to why we don't bother to simply mention them.   We Know We Know. We Are Aware We Are Aware. We Are as We Are. Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune that are accurately called disorders. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse Nature’s Law and Order and our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing and compound and degrade health. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion. Principles affirm Our Indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality which is impossible to accomplish though we are free to try. Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible gibberish of ignorance - not reality.

    36 min

  3. DEC 6

    MOD Jack II

    Contact Welcomed Here Ego = I. When I am talking to myself there must be a person in second place I am talking to. And if I am trying to fix that self that is pretty good evidence I think of it as broken while real enough to fix. Imposter syndrome is not an accident. Ego as a false self is a narrative created to blame for thoughtless shameful choices. This semi-clever ruse of twisted language has been developed to have insanity appear sane, normal and moral. The fact that it has no basis or substance is of little consequence to the maker believing in it. Illusions as reality is induced insanity. All matter and things that matter have substance  - lies do not.   We have developed a story around all we are is who and what we think we are. If we think how and what we think is reality, then we think there is no other reality. To face an illusions as reality can have us think we can turn our back on Reality while Reality does not flinch. Thinking insanely about reality does not change Reality it dysfunctionally changes our mentality. The fact that we can think we have nothing to do with anything precedes the thought that we have no place, value or benefit to offer anyone.  Lies foster lies so trying to fix a lie while lying is to continue to maintain baseless, worthless ideas about everything. We cannot be what we have so think we become liars makes the idea of not lying seem preposterous since it would involve killing the self we identify as our self. That which has no life cannot be killed - though while we think it is real, just like a nighmare, it feels real till we wake up. Thinking is not the problem. What and how we think, once we think it is reality and truth, becomes a highly suspect fight for a life that never existed.  Obsessvive thinking is an unnatural attempt to turn our thoughts into reality by using pain to claim the effort must be true.  If insanity were sane it wouldn't be hard to admit. Insane thoughts are easy to fix once we see they are something we are choosing rather than who, what and how we are.  We Know We Know. We Are Aware We Are Aware. We Are as We Are. Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune that are accurately called disorders. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse Nature’s Law and Order and our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing and compound and degrade health. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion. Principles affirm Our Indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality which is impossible to accomplish though we are free to try. Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible gibberish of ignorance - not reality.

    41 min

  4. NOV 4

    MOD Jack I

    Contact Welcomed Here Before discussing the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous and how they can be applied to all compulsive behaviors and obsessive thoughts consider this: Identifying the mental problem of addiction, like diagnosing any disease, includes the individual identifying with the problem as the only one who can diagnose their problem and act effectively to dissolve that problem. If we are free to choose what and how we think - then we are each solely able to determine how and what we do with the mental problems and suffering we create. Even without fully understating all of the mental defective traits that induce obsessive thinking it is easy to notice the effects of inner conflict, emotional turmoil and mental anguish. Since we share an Absolute Common Bond - common suffering is a gateway to help us collectively see that if there is a way into any nightmarish disturbance there is a way out. Since nightmares occur when we sleep it is worth noting that we are able to sleep walk while we think we’re awake. By identifying the disturbing elements we experience the obvious can more easily replace the chronic attempt to maintain oblivion.  Focal points: The steps are based on principles. Principles do not change. There is nothing simpler than that which does not change and nothing is easier to complicate than thinking otherwise. Principles are natural and fundamental to our existence. Principles like our Absolute State of Being is not a choice - “They” Have Us - we cannot let go of them. Unprincipled, immoral, irresponsible, unstable thoughts are unnatural choices to make believe how we think about Reality, Truth, Life, Light and Love - determines our life rather than concede We Are determined by them: Absolutely and We Are so Free to choose how and what we think of them we can even choose to believe we are condemned by them. Responsiblity, Choice and Freedom are all Absolute Natural States of human nature. Consideration is not a conviction but an awakened - eyes wide open deliberation as a meditative contemplation.  We Know We Know. We Are Aware We Are Aware. We Are as We Are. Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune that are accurately called disorders. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse Nature’s Law and Order and our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing and compound and degrade health. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion. Principles affirm Our Indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality which is impossible to accomplish though we are free to try. Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible gibberish of ignorance - not reality.

    1h 16m

  5. OCT 26

    MOD Paul V

    Contact Welcomed Here “It’s not the strongest species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the most responsive to change.” Charles Darwin  Responsiveness is the ability to respond - Responsibly.   Reactiveness, like righteousness. is an automated fight for right that is wrong.  Reactivity precedes impulsivity and immediately triggers compulsive behaviors.  Obsessive thoughts are reactive, defensive, defiant denial, and so delusional.  None of this activity can be kept secret since all obsessive, sick thoughts compel compulsive behaviors - and are also seen in the blood, sweat and tears we suffer.  Subtle or obvious compulsive behaviors are admissions of knowing something is wrong. "The horizon of many people is a circle with a radius of zero. They call this their point of view."  Albert Einstein.  It is not a loss of memory but the lack of human perspective we suffer by imagining all that we are is the subject of subjective thought. A dimension of zero has no perspective in space and time - so any imagined self has no value, awareness, or place since it has no life beyone imagination. Feeling like we don't belong is caused by thoughts with no substantive basis, and so have no place in Reality. To think imagination is reality is to think reality is fantasy that turns the extraordinary benefit of imagination into a dire liability.     Thinking is not the source of existence while it is the primary source of human experience adn survival. Thinking naturally offers the potential to exist humanely and the freedom to mis-think and act inhumane and uncivilized. Nature is natural and so it is our nature. Insanity is a byproduct of unnatural, unhealthy, abnormal obsessive thinking - thoght of as reality and our only possibility. Social ills are the collective nature of sick, induced thoughts: mental illness.   We Know We Know. We Are Aware We Are Aware. We Are as We Are. Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune that are accurately called disorders. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse Nature’s Law and Order and our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing and compound and degrade health. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion. Principles affirm Our Indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality which is impossible to accomplish though we are free to try. Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible gibberish of ignorance - not reality.

    1h 19m

  6. AUG 31

    MOD Gabe V

    Contact Welcomed Here The contagion of mentally obsessive thinking is not carried by bacteria or viruses but toxic silence when thoughtful but not always welcome words could help, or by speaking up with words that reinforce the sick thoughtlessness of this induced mental state. The imposition of this addiction is not a state of Mind but of a brain that has been mis-used and abused by imagining it is the creator of reality and truth and our self. It is not and we are not who we think we are.  We Know We Know. We Are Aware We Are Aware. We Are as We Are. Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune that are accurately called disorders. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse Nature’s Law and Order and our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing and compound and degrade health. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion. Principles affirm Our Indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality which is impossible to accomplish though we are free to try. Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible gibberish of ignorance - not reality.

    1h 27m

  7. AUG 23

    MOD Marc IV

    Contact Welcomed Here Obsessive thinking does not hear what is said but what is thought to be said. Nor does it see what is visibly clear but only what is thought to be seen. To hear and see things that don’t exist is well defined as insanity. Definitions are explicit. Connotations are used to claim semantics reduce our culpability.  Thinking about our self is a hallmark of so-called selfish, self centered, self serving problems. To worship thought and reason as our god is to imagine there is no other reality or truth. Healthy species do not act irrationally. Mental health determines our physical and societal health.    The natural process of change occurs every moment as all that is happening adapts to all that is newly happening now. Denial induces a sense of psychic anesthesia sufficient to imagine acting oblivious to what is obvious makes sense.. Fear naturally notices this risk. Any fixation requires thoughts be held like chained hostages, against change, to maintain their fierce compliance with baseless ideas. Trying to get over by feeling better about the discomforting feelings has the effect seem like the cause to maintain the lie we have nothing to do with it.  Even within the debate over evolution vs. creation the process of change is encouraged to muster sufficient faith that never seems to be enough to finally qualify the believer as worthy of a connection to any named creator. To fight for finite ideas as absolute is to use hyper- reactive desperation to defend and pretend that false ideals as divine. This twist leads to imagining the effects we produce and feel are caused by a separate deity so pitiful as to have created us so we can be singled out, hated and destroyed. This deity is what we call ego - a false self. To think of the basis of our relations as dammed is to think of damning behavior as the only right thing to do. Holy shit is not accidental terminology as it openly though wrongly confirms wasteful, thoughtless ideas as our only possibility. It is our thinking we feel so profoundly. The Self we share indivisibly allows us to see disturbances clearly. This permanence is not obsessive but Ever-Present Omniscience. We would not know so clearly what is wrong if we did not have an Absolute basis in Truth and Reality that Is Right.   Self Realization and Self Actualization are intimately seamless partners actually realizing all that is happening Now.  If this IS so - so Be It. Things are not as they seem but as they are. We are not as we seem but as We Are.  Thinking is something we do. We We Know We Know. We Are Aware We Are Aware. We Are as We Are. Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune that are accurately called disorders. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse Nature’s Law and Order and our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing and compound and degrade health. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion. Principles affirm Our Indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality which is impossible to accomplish though we are free to try. Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible gibberish of ignorance - not reality.

    52 min

  8. JUL 28

    MOD Marc III

    Contact Welcomed Here “Suffering reveals the soul, not to others, but to oneself.” Dostoevsky “And still, in all my suffering, I wondered if there was even a self to reveal.” Kafka “I held on because I believed pain meant it was real” Dostoyevsky “I let go because nothing real should hurt that long” Kafka We Know We Know. We Are Aware We Are Aware. We Are as We Are. Reality is unlimited and never changes. The idea that how and what we think creates reality suggests otherwise. Acting on backward thoughts leads to behaviors that are out of order reflecting a reversal of our natural fortune that are accurately called disorders. Anxious, nervous and systemic disorders reflect this impossible attempt to reverse Nature’s Law and Order and our Universe's Essence. Dis-ease is the lack of ease created and maintained by such twisted mental acrobatics. Stress and Anxiety inhibit healing and compound and degrade health. Mentality is a bodily function. Mental disease is a physcial ailment. For as long as it is misdiagnosed - any cure or treatment will perpetuate its contagion. Principles affirm Our Indivisible nature. Sharing Principles confirms our natural indivisibility. Inspiration is natural while desperation, depression, degradation and acting oblivious to what is obvious is an unnatural choice to oppose reality which is impossible to accomplish though we are free to try. Ignoring what is happening, acting as though it shouldn't be or isn't happening, produces the unintelligible gibberish of ignorance - not reality.

    1h 40m
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Our discussion is not partisan, licensed, nor is it an academic or scientific thesis, medical diagnosis, prognosis, philosophy, prescription, discipline, cure or treatment. Based on experience, we neither propose nor oppose any position, person, place, or thing nor do we promote rituals or any religious service - real or imagined.  Listening indicates some interest in solving mental conflicts. Automatic reliance on what you hear is not suggested nor is it a substitute for taking direction from responsible parties you rely on, or are under the care or influence of, including professionals.  Our conversation is about conditions we create, those within our control, even as it can be hard to believe we could have anything to do with such disturbances. Only you can determine if this is your case. If your mental state is wholly out of your control then other people may be your only hope.  There is no greater enemy we face than the one we imagine to be our self. There is no greater impact anyone else can make on our experience since our brain is where choices along with our pain and pleasure zones occur. Induced insanity is a disturbing mental condition. It allows we can simultaneously make believe we have nothing to do with the problem. As a result it is easy to conclude there is nothing we can do about it. No amount of hopelessness can ever overcome this hopeless thought as long as it is maintained.  Mistaking thoughts for reality causes misgivings about Reality and Truth.  Life only seems complicated when we mistake how we think of life and truth as our reality. This position presumes there is not other reality.   Feeling empty, alone, disconnected?  Feeling out of place? Trying to find where you belong, yet never arrive? Seeking, searching, questioning day after day? Trying to feel better, get over the past or get past the present discomfort? Feeling hopeless about hopeless ideas is a good sign that our body language is guiding us accurately - even while we are not listening.   Consideration is contemplative, awakened meditation. Absolute Knowing Awareness is simple because it does not change, it is natural and it is our nature - not an option or negotiatiable.  Awe and inspiration are the realization that all possibility is present here, now, for all that is and all who are—always in all ways. Knowing’s nature is Absolute: not negotiable, occasional, or optional. There is no doubt where there is no question. Reality and Truth are the Substance of Life. Lying has no substance and so generates unhealthy, conflicted turmoil. Loneliness is an accurate reflection of disconnected, baseless thinking. Creating any cause while denying its effects sustains the vicious cycle of obsessive thoughts, which lie at the center of addictive behaviors. Einstein noted: “You cannot fix a problem with the same thinking that created it.” Symptomatic recovery does not cure obsessive mental illness; it cleans the lens so the problem can be seen. Emotional sobriety is sane living. When wrong is seen as wrong it is right. This does not correct the wrong but allows for correction.  Peace on earth does not require the grave thought we must first be being buried in it.

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