The "So, why?" Podcast with Stepped Care Solutions

Stepped Care Solutions

So, why are we excited about Stepped Care 2.0? This podcast explores issues and challenges as well as ideas and solutions leading to strengthening support for mental wellness and recovery. We will engage with a variety of speakers who come from different backgrounds and perspectives as we explore mental health and addictions and a variety of issues that impact systems, communities and individuals. The views and opinions shared are those of the speakers and are not to be taken as medical advice and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Stepped Care Solutions.

  1. Sep 11

    The spectrum of substance use health

    In order to achieve healthcare parity, substance use health needs to be seen as equally interconnected and important as our mental and physical wellbeing. On this episode of The “So, Why?” Podcast, Stepped Care Solutions’ Sonyia Taggart-Mint speaks with Shawn Fisk, Senior Manager, Strategic Partnerships at the Community Addictions Peer Support Association (CAPSA), about why there is a need for systems to broaden approaches to substance use health beyond crisis and illness-focused care. This includes a recognition that everyone has their own personal and non-linear substance use health spectrum—whether that is zero use, some use, or substance use disorder.  More information: CAPSA website: https://capsa.ca/  National Substance Use Health Week of Action: https://capsa.ca/events/week-of-action/ WOW Festival: https://capsa.ca/wow-festival/  This episode’s guest: Shawn Fisk is a nationally recognized leader in Compassionate Care and Stigma-and-Discrimination-Informed Practices. With over 20 years of experience navigating substance use health and mental health systems for his own needs, he brings a unique blend of lived and living, peer leadership, and clinical expertise to national implementation, practice transformation, and leadership development.  His work focuses on applying co-leadership principles to systems design to align care models and priorities with the needs of the communities they serve. His mission is simple: to help build systems where dignity is not earned or conditional, but the starting point for everyone seeking care. About CAPSA: The Community Addictions Peer Support Association (CAPSA) is a registered charity working to dismantle substance use stigma and advance equity for people accessing information, care, and supports related to Substance Use Health. Their team of educators, researchers, clinicians, and policy analysts, informed by lived and living experience, works across Canada with organizations in non-profit, health and social services, government and private sectors to build practical, stigma-free approaches to Substance Use Health. Show details:Want to hear more about how the innovative Stepped Care 2.0® model supports communities to reframe, rethink, and redesign the delivery of mental health and substance use health systems? Check out previous episodes of The “So, Why?” Podcast on our website, YouTube channel, Spotify or your favourite podcast apps. ⁠https://steppedcaresolutions.com/mental-health-podcast/⁠

    The spectrum of substance use health
  2. Aug 27

    Designing Caring Systems for Mental Health

    How do we intentionally design systems that help people get the right support, at the right time, in the right way? On this episode of The “So, Why?” Podcast, AnnMarie Churchill, President and Lead Executive Officer at Stepped Care Solutions, speaks with Meaghon Reid, Executive Director of Converge Mental Health Coalition, about what it means to design systems that improve wellbeing intentionally—not by continually adding new programs, but by strengthening relationships, clarifying roles, aligning organizations and resources, and building systems that work together. Want to hear more about how the innovative Stepped Care 2.0® model supports communities to reframe, rethink, and redesign the delivery of mental health and substance use health systems? Check out previous episodes of The “So, Why?” Podcast on our website, YouTube channel, Spotify or your favourite podcast apps. https://steppedcaresolutions.com/mental-health-podcast/ More information from this episode: Converge website: https://www.convergementalhealth.org/  Our recap of the Global Leadership Exchange 2026: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/le26-knowledgeexchange-leadershipexchange-share-7470082403307323393-hPaD/ Meaghon’s op-ed on mental health systems as core infrastructure: https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/think-tank-member-meaghon-reid-the-next-million-depends-on-mental-health-but-not-the-way-we-think This episode’s guest: Meaghon Reid is the inaugural Executive Director of Converge Mental Health Coalition, a national organization working to transform Canada's mental health system through collaboration, innovation, and systems change. For more than 20 years, Meaghon has worked at the intersection of mental health, public policy, and organizational leadership, bringing together governments, researchers, community organizations, philanthropy, and people with lived experience to tackle complex social challenges. Prior to joining Converge, she served as Executive Director of Vibrant Communities Calgary and previously held senior leadership roles with the Mental Health Commission of Canada in Ottawa and the National Council for Mental Wellbeing in Washington, DC. A sought-after speaker and facilitator, Meaghon is known for translating complex systems challenges into practical, collaborative action. She speaks on systems transformation, collective leadership, cross-sector partnerships, and the future of mental health in Canada, drawing on two decades of experience leading initiatives that bridge policy, practice, and community. Meaghon believes Canada's biggest mental health challenges will not be solved by any one organization, sector, or government. They will be solved by creating the conditions for collective action, where diverse partners come together around a shared purpose to build a stronger, more connected mental health system. About Converge: Established in 2022, Converge Mental Health Coalition responds to the urgent need for systemic change in how mental health services are accessed, delivered, and integrated.  With over 90 organizations and individuals representing a diverse array of sectors and industries across Canada, Converge acts as an intermediary, supporting mental health providers, agencies, and stakeholders to identify gaps and collaborate on solutions, driving policy and technological advancements to support changes to the mental healthcare system. Converge provides a national platform for mental health providers and agencies operating within, and adjacent to, the mental health sector to share their ideas and catalyze large-scale, system-level change across the country.

    Designing Caring Systems for Mental Health
  3. Jul 15

    A Collaborative Approach to Student-Centric Care at McGill University

    Flexible, student-centric care is transforming mental health services at McGill University.  This episode of The “So, Why?” Podcast features a conversation with Vera Romano, Director of the Student Wellness Hub at McGill University, on how McGill has been re-designing its campus mental health system to be more responsive to and reflective of its student population. In conversation with Kait Saxton, Director of Service Delivery Strategy and Implementation at Stepped Care Solutions, they explore how clinicians, staff and university leadership have embraced a paradigm shift in mental health system thinking to implement a new approach to service delivery.  Want to hear more about how the innovative Stepped Care 2.0 model supports communities to reframe, rethink, and redesign the delivery of mental health and substance use health services? Check out previous episodes of The “So, Why?” Podcast in Spotify, or at our website: https://steppedcaresolutions.com/mental-health-podcast/  More information from this episode: On McGill University:  McGill Student Wellness Hub website “How a growth mindset is transforming student wellness at McGill” (Report on Giving 2022-23)  On Implementation Science:  Populating the model: The SC2.0 approach to co-design for mental health and substance use health system transformation (web article)  "Guiding Principles for Implementing Stepped Care in Mental Health: Alignment on the Bigger Picture" (published in Community Mental Health Journal, April 2023)  "Exploring Determinants of Effective Implementation of an Innovation Within Health Care: Qualitative Insights from Program Champions on Implementing One-at-a-Time Therapy Within Addictions and Mental Health Services in New Brunswick" (published in Administration and Policy in Mental Health and Mental Health Services Research, November 2024) This episode’s guest: Dr. Vera Romano is Director of the Student Wellness Hub at McGill University and an Associate Member in the Faculty of Educational and Counselling Psychology. She has maintained a private therapy practice since 2000 and brings over two decades of experience in student mental health and wellness. At McGill, Dr. Romano leads a nationally-recognized initiative that integrates physical and mental health services, with a strong emphasis on prevention, early intervention, and inclusive care. About the Student Wellness Hub: The Student Wellness Hub provides a range of services to support the wellbeing of McGill students with a focus on awareness, prevention, and early intervention. The Hub is committed to supporting the diverse needs of McGill’s student population through accessible services, peer support, and wellness education that reflects the university’s values of equity and belonging.

    A Collaborative Approach to Student-Centric Care at McGill University
  4. Jun 18

    From Scarcity to Capacity: Reframing Mental Health Systems

    It is so important to reframe mental health and system narratives from a scarcity mindset to person-centric approaches focused on capacity. On this episode of The “So, Why?” Podcast, Shauna Cronin, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships and Communications at Stepped Care Solutions, speaks with Lori Spadorcia, Senior Vice President, Public Affairs and Partnerships, Chief Strategy Officer, Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH), about how pivoting from approaches of “there is not enough” to those focused on re-aligning services and resources unlock new solutions. Together, they explore ideas around rewriting the story of the system, and why abundance is not about “more” but about equity and better allocation.  Want to hear more about how the innovative Stepped Care 2.0 model supports communities to reframe, rethink, and redesign the delivery of mental health and substance use health systems? Check out previous episodes of The “So, Why?” Podcast on our website, YouTube channel, Spotify and your favourite podcast apps.   More information for this episode: CAMH website: https://www.camh.ca/   Integrated Youth Services (IYS): https://iys-sij.org/  Youth Wellness Hubs Ontario: https://youthhubs.ca/about-youth-wellness-hubs-ontario  This episode’s guest: Lori Spadorcia is a seasoned executive in strategy, communications and systems transformation. A thought leader with a demonstrated commitment to engaging partners and influencing public policy, Lori is dedicated to driving social change. As CAMH’s Senior Vice-President, Public Affairs and Partnerships and Chief Strategy Officer, she leads cross-organization strategic initiatives including the academic health centre’s role in building more equitable mental health care and supports across Ontario. She has led the development and implementation of an ambitious strategic plan to redefine health, placing mental health at the centre of healthcare and including social determinants as key forces in the health and wellbeing of Canadians.  About CAMH: The Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH) is Canada's largest mental health teaching hospital and one of the world's leading research centres in its field.  With a dedicated staff of more than 5,000 physicians, clinicians, researchers, educators and support staff, CAMH offers clinical care to nearly 40,000 clients each year. The organization conducts research, provides expert training to health care professionals and scientists, develops innovative health promotion and prevention strategies, and advocates on public policy issues at all levels of government.

    From Scarcity to Capacity: Reframing Mental Health Systems
  5. May 13 ·  Bonus

    From Individual Story to System Change: Mobilizing Mental Health Narratives Across the Spectrum

    How do our stories shape both personal wellbeing and system change?  On this bonus episode of The “So, Why?” Podcast, recorded live during a fireside chat co-hosted by Unsinkable and Stepped Care Solutions (SCS), the panel explores how individual stories shape self-understanding and community healing and how narratives inform policy, care design, and population-level change.  Panelists include: AnnMarie Churchill, President and Lead Executive Officer at SCS Hailey Hechtman, Executive Director, Unsinkable Joshua Bell, Unsinkable Champion and mental health advocate and moderator Afreina Noor, Partnerships Lead, Unsinkable Stepped Care Solutions is proud to partner with Unsinkable for a conversation that explores the full arc of mental health storytelling—from individual experience to systemic transformation. Want to hear more about how the innovative Stepped Care 2.0 model supports communities to reframe, rethink, and redesign the delivery of mental health and substance use health systems? Check out previous episodes of The “So, Why?” Podcast on our website, YouTube channel, Spotify or your favourite podcast apps. https://steppedcaresolutions.com/mental-health-podcast/  More information: Unsinkable website: https://www.weareunsinkable.com/  Resource Kit: (link to download)  Unsinkable @ Work: https://www.weareunsinkable.com/unsinkable-at-work  On the panel: AnnMarie Churchill, President and Lead Executive Officer, Stepped Care Solutions AnnMarie brings over 30 years of clinical and systems-level experience across healthcare, research, and community settings. She has led the implementation of Stepped Care 2.0®, including Wellness Together Canada, and specializes in trauma, anxiety, and resilience. Hailey Hechtman, Executive Director of Unsinkable  Hailey is a mental health and social impact leader using storytelling to drive systemic change and reduce stigma. A 2025 LeadHer Award recipient, she has also received the King Charles III Coronation Medal and was named one of The Peak’s Emerging Leaders for 2024. Joshua Bell, Unsinkable Champion Joshua is a mental health advocate and community leader who brings both lived experience and national leadership to his work across organizations and initiatives. In 2025, he was awarded the King Charles III Coronation Medal for his contributions to mental health and suicide prevention in Canada. Afreina Noor, Partnerships Lead at Unsinkable Afreina designs and facilitates national conversations, such as this one, under Unsinkable’s flagship program Unsinkable @ Work, that use storytelling as a tool for connection, stigma reduction, and systems change. Afreina is the host and moderator of this conversation.  About Unsinkable: Unsinkable helps Canadians tell their mental health stories and create spaces where these stories become a lifeline for others. Through sharing personal experiences, Unsinkable fosters connection, reduces isolation, and offers hope.

    From Individual Story to System Change: Mobilizing Mental Health Narratives Across the Spectrum
  6. May 6

    The Power of Partnership and Policy: Building Thriving Mental Health Systems

    How do we build partnerships across sectors and governments while working to position mental health and substance use health care as a public good—and public right? On this episode of The “So, Why?” Podcast, Shauna Cronin, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships and Communications at Stepped Care Solutions, speaks with SM Sansouci, National Government Relations Lead at the Canadian Mental Health Association (CMHA), about bridging the gap between high-level policy frameworks and on-the-ground, community-based care. Together, they explore the challenges and opportunities in moving from systems designed to manage illness to those that foster thriving and wellbeing across the population. A key theme throughout the conversation is the importance of building shared intent—across organizations, governments, and funders—as a foundation for meaningful and sustainable system change. More information for this episode: CMHA website Mental Health Week 2026 campaign details CMHA campaign on funding mental health news release This episode’s guest: SM Sansouci is the Government Relations Lead with CMHA’s National Office. Her role is to influence federal public policy. This entails everything from organizing (Parliament) Hill Days, ghost writing op-eds, publishing research, and participating at consultative tables where decisions are being shaped.  Unlike many lobbyists who come from political staff roles, SM spent the first decade of her career as a researcher in the federal public service, working on the development of legislation and public programs. She brings that insider’s understanding of how government decisions are made to non-profit advocacy, where over the past ten years her work has helped strengthen early program iterations of the National Housing Strategy, cement a legislative right to housing, and secure the creation of a $500 million Youth Mental Health Fund. About the CMHA: The Canadian Mental Health Association is the largest provider of frontline community mental health and addiction services in Canada. Through a presence in more than 330 communities across every province and Yukon, CMHA provides services that help to prevent mental health problems and illnesses, and support recovery and resilience. Want to hear more about how the innovative Stepped Care 2.0 model supports communities to reframe, rethink, and redesign the delivery of mental health and substance use health services? Check out previous episodes of The “So, Why?” Podcast on our website, YouTube channel, Spotify or your favourite podcast apps.

    The Power of Partnership and Policy: Building Thriving Mental Health Systems
  7. Mar 19

    Transforming Campus Mental Health at UC Chile

    This episode of The “So, Why?” Podcast features a conversation with María Paz Jana Le Bert, Director of Student Health and Wellness, Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile (UC Chile), on how UC Chile has been transforming its campus mental health system with person-centric approaches. In conversation with Sarah Harte, Manager of Implementation and Service Delivery Strategy at Stepped Care Solutions, they explore how flexible and open access services have improved wellbeing for students, staff, and the broader post-secondary community.  Want to hear more about how the innovative Stepped Care 2.0 model supports communities to reframe, rethink, and redesign the delivery of mental health and substance use health services? Check out previous episodes of The “So, Why?” Podcast on our website, YouTube channel, Spotify or your favourite podcast apps: https://steppedcaresolutions.com/mental-health-podcast/  More information: Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile: https://www.uc.cl/  Okanagan Charter: An International Charter for Health Promoting Universities and Colleges: ​​https://www.chpcn.ca/okanagan-charter  One-at-a-Time (OAAT) counselling and approach: https://steppedcaresolutions.com/one-at-a-time-approach/   This episode’s guest: María Paz Jana Le Bert holds a Master's Degree in Clinical Psychology, with a focus on diagnosis and intervention techniques, and has worked as a clinical psychologist for youth and adults. For nearly two decades, María Paz has served in a variety of roles supporting the campus community’s mental health and wellbeing services and transformation.  About Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile: Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile (UC Chile) is one of the oldest universities in Chile. It has five campuses, four of them in Santiago, more than 30,000 students across 18 faculties, and is recognized as one of the top universities in South America.  The Counselling Centre at UC Chile began implementing stepped care in 2020. After an initial demonstration of the Stepped Care 2.0 model, they scaled their implementation further, with an open access approach and One-at-a-Time counselling. UC Chile also shares outcomes of this work with other organisations and communities within Chile and across South America.

    Transforming Campus Mental Health at UC Chile
  8. Feb 18

    From Shelves to Services: Mobilizing Evidence to Transform Mental Health Systems

    This episode of The “So, Why?” Podcast features a conversation with Michael Cooper, Vice President of Data & Partnerships at Mental Health Research Canada (MHRC), on how to mobilize evidence to transform mental health systems. In conversation with Shauna Cronin, VP of Strategic Partnerships and Communications at Stepped Care Solutions, they discuss how to shift approaches from simply publishing research in journals to a model where the findings are a central, dynamic part of the system design process itself. More information at the Mental Health Research Canada website: ⁠⁠https://www.mhrc.ca/⁠⁠   Out of the Shadows at Last: Transforming Mental Health, Mental Illness and Addiction Services in Canada (2006): https://mentalhealthcommission.ca/resource/out-of-the-shadows-at-last-transforming-mental-health-mental-illness-and-addiction-services-in-canada/ Want to hear more about how the innovative Stepped Care 2.0 model supports communities to reframe, rethink, and redesign the delivery of mental health and substance use health services through flexible, open access, recovery-focused approaches? Check out previous episodes of The “So, Why?” Podcast on our website, YouTube channel, Spotify and your favourite podcast apps. This episode’s guest: Michael Cooper is an experienced charity executive with over 16 years of experience in fund development, project management and government relations. Michael advocates for improving our understanding in detecting, treating and managing mental health issues. He has a strong focus on the utilization of data to inform policy and advance mental health care in Canada and currently oversees MHRC's large scale data project tracking the ongoing mental health of Canadians. About Mental Health Research Canada: MHRC is a non-governmental, registered national charity committed to making mental health research truly count for Canadians. With one in four Canadians impacted by mental health challenges, the gap between what people need and what’s accessible continues to grow. MHRC bridges this gap through: Population Data Collection, Analysis, and Rapid Reporting; Studentships and Fellowships; Supporting and Leading Innovative Solutions, partnering with likeminded organizations to address real-world, current mental health needs.

    From Shelves to Services: Mobilizing Evidence to Transform Mental Health Systems

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So, why are we excited about Stepped Care 2.0? This podcast explores issues and challenges as well as ideas and solutions leading to strengthening support for mental wellness and recovery. We will engage with a variety of speakers who come from different backgrounds and perspectives as we explore mental health and addictions and a variety of issues that impact systems, communities and individuals. The views and opinions shared are those of the speakers and are not to be taken as medical advice and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Stepped Care Solutions.

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