The UK Flooring Podcast

Cockerillandco

The UK Flooring Podcast, produced by Cockerill & Co, is on a mission to elevate and unite the flooring industry community. Our aim is to connect every facet of the industry, from retailers and contractors to manufacturers and distributors. Since its debut in January 2022, The UK Flooring Podcast has become a vibrant hub for sharing compelling stories and valuable insights from flooring professionals. We’re passionate about building a strong community and sparking dynamic conversations that not only inspire and inform but also entertain and uplift our listeners.  Join us as we explore the endless possibilities within the flooring world and celebrate the people who make it thrive. If you're interested in being featured on the podcast or for more information on sponsorship opportunities, please reach out to us. Email: hello@cockerillandco.co.uk Call: +441325952548 Web: www.theukflooringpodcast.co.uk www.cockerillandco.co.uk Instagram @theukflooringpodcast @cockerillandco Facebook @theukflooringpodcast @cockerillandco LinkedIn The UK Flooring Podcast Cockerill & Co Watch On YouTube Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 30 in 30 - Episode 5 - You're Sitting On A Gold Mine!

    12h ago

    30 in 30 - Episode 5 - You're Sitting On A Gold Mine!

    This episode of The UK Flooring Podcast is a straight-talking reminder that most flooring businesses are already sitting on untapped profit, and it is not always about chasing more leads. Tom breaks down why so much money gets left on the table through old customer databases, lazy pricing habits, forgotten consumables, missed upsells, and poor follow-up. From sending regular emails to past customers, to checking your margins properly, to offering better options on underlay, door bars, waste removal, faster fitting dates and premium finishes, this episode is packed with practical ideas flooring businesses can use straight away. The message is simple: you do not always need more enquiries to make more money. Sometimes you need to make better use of the customers, jobs and opportunities already in front of you. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How your existing customer email list could become one of your most valuable marketing assets Why previous customers are often the easiest people to sell to again How regular newsletters can keep your business memorable without being pushy Why guessing your prices is costing you money The importance of checking material costs, consumables, door bars, screed, DPM, staples and other small items properly How better pricing alone can improve profit without winning more jobs Why upsells should be presented as helpful options, not pushy sales tactics How to offer upgrades on underlay, waste disposal, door bars, borders, stair bindings, finishes and faster turnaround times Why follow-up, Christmas cards, CRM systems and maintenance reminders can keep you front of mind Memorable Quote: “You don’t always need more customers. Sometimes you’re already sitting on the gold mine, you just need to start digging in the right place.” Speaker Information: Tom Cockerill is the co-host of The UK Flooring Podcast and co-founder of Cockerill & Co. Through the podcast, events and business consultancy, Tom helps flooring retailers, installers and business owners improve their systems, pricing, sales, marketing and profitability. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    14 min
  2. 30 in 30 - Episode 4 -  Growing The Family Flooring Business - James Parfitt

    1d ago

    30 in 30 - Episode 4 - Growing The Family Flooring Business - James Parfitt

    This episode of The UK Flooring Podcast sits down with James Parfitt from Parfitt’s Carpets & Interiors for a proper family business story spanning more than five decades in the flooring trade. James shares how he accidentally ended up in flooring after originally training as a chef, stepping into the family business when his mum needed help managing fitters, customers, stock, and the day-to-day pressure of running a busy carpet shop. From old-school ordering by phone and fax, to changing the showroom from 150 rolls of stock into a modern presentation space, James talks openly about the decisions that shaped the business, the shift from carpet-heavy sales to hard flooring, adding beds and interiors, and the challenges of planning for the next generation. There’s also a powerful conversation about training, succession, family names in business, sobriety, and the lessons James wishes he had learned earlier. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How James went from chef to flooring retailer almost by accident. What it was like joining the family business during a difficult period. Why Parfitt’s moved away from carrying huge stock levels. How the showroom evolved from rolls of carpet to a more modern interiors space. Why beds became a useful add-on alongside flooring. How the business shifted from around 80% carpet to more hard flooring. Why James believes fitter training should have happened much earlier. The challenges of managing accounts, wages, and back-office systems. Why business owners should think carefully before naming a company after themselves. How James is preparing his son Luke to potentially take over the business. Why James thinks training, at every stage of your career, never really stops. Memorable Quote: “You’re never too old to learn.” Speaker Information: James Parfitt is part of Parfitt’s Carpets & Interiors, a long-established family flooring business based in Pembroke Dock, Pembrokeshire. The business has been running for 57 years and has evolved from a traditional carpet shop into a flooring and interiors showroom, offering carpets, hard flooring, beds, and more. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    46 min
  3. 30 in 30 - Episode 3 - Make or Break

    2d ago

    30 in 30 - Episode 3 - Make or Break

    This episode of The UK Flooring Podcast is a very different one, as Tom Cockerill talks through one of his biggest passion projects: Make Or Break. For nearly eight years, Tom has been running Make Or Break as an immersive course designed to push people past the limits they have built in their own heads. It is not a standard business course, and it is not about sitting in a room taking notes. It is about perception, performance, mindset, pressure, honesty, and proving to yourself that you are capable of more than you think. Tom shares how his own experience on a similar course changed the way he showed up at home, at work, and in life. He also explains why Make Or Break is deliberately secretive, why attendees sign an NDA, and why the real value often comes from uncomfortable conversations, hard questions, and situations that force people to act differently. This episode also touches on Make Or Break 2, a higher-level experience created for long-standing clients who had already been through the first course. Tom explains how little information was given before the event, why trust in the process matters, and what happened when those clients were pushed to their limit and beyond. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why Tom created Make Or Break after experiencing a similar course himself. How limiting beliefs can hold people back in business, work, family life, and confidence. Why uncomfortable situations can change your perception of what is possible. How Make Or Break is designed to improve performance, mindset, and personal standards. Why Tom believes the biggest limiting factor in most people’s progress is themselves. How Make Or Break 2 pushed long-standing clients even further. Why the course is kept secretive, invitation-led, and protected by an NDA. Memorable Quote: “The only limiting factor is you.” Speaker Information: Tom Cockerill is the co-founder of Cockerill & Co, working with flooring businesses across the UK to help them grow, improve performance, build better systems, and push beyond the limits they have accepted as normal. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    15 min
  4. 30 in 30 - Episode 2 - The Stand Collector

    3d ago

    30 in 30 - Episode 2 - The Stand Collector

    This episode of The UK Flooring Podcast is episode 2 of Tom’s 30 day podcast challenge, and it might ruffle a few feathers. Tom takes aim at what he calls “stand collecting”, the habit flooring retailers have of filling every spare inch of showroom space with manufacturer stands, sample books and point of sale, often without asking whether it actually helps the business. He breaks down why retail space is too valuable to waste, why customer experience should come before brand clutter, and why flooring retailers need to be much sharper about which products earn their place in the showroom. This is not about removing every brand from your shop. It is about making better decisions, doing proper due diligence, negotiating properly, using your sales data, and being ruthless with anything that has not sold for months. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why Tom thinks “stand collecting” is one of the biggest showroom mistakes in flooring How much showroom space can really cost you when you break it down properly Why customer experience often matters more than brand presence How to assess whether a manufacturer stand deserves space in your shop Why retailers should visit manufacturers, meet the team and understand the product properly How to use CRM data and sales history before taking on new ranges Why pricing and margin need to be worked out by your business, not guessed How to negotiate point of sale instead of accepting the first offer Why product positioning inside the showroom makes a difference How to build a better cheap, mid-range and high-end product mix Why products that have not sold in six months should probably be removed Memorable Quote: “If you think you need every single manufacturer, you are sadly wrong.” Speaker Information: Tom is one of the voices behind The UK Flooring Podcast and a director at Cockerill & Co. In this 30 day challenge, he is sharing quick, honest and practical episodes designed to help flooring retailers, contractors and business owners sharpen up the way they run their businesses. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    21 min
  5. 30 Days. 30 Podcasts. Why Tom Is Taking On the Challenge

    4d ago

    30 Days. 30 Podcasts. Why Tom Is Taking On the Challenge

    This episode of The UK Flooring Podcast marks the start of something a bit different: Tom’s 30 day podcast challenge. After a difficult few months dealing with an ongoing health issue, Tom is setting himself a clear target: one podcast every day for 30 days. Some will be short, some will go deeper, some may include guests, and some will be Tom on his own, talking through the real subjects that flooring business owners are facing right now. This opening episode sets the scene for the challenge, why Tom is doing it, and what listeners can expect over the next month. From earning more while working less, to showroom standards, marketing, pricing, websites, recruitment, getting off the tools, the National Flooring Awards and more, this series is designed to give flooring retailers, fitters and business owners practical ideas they can keep coming back to. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why Tom has decided to take on a 30 day podcast challenge How 30 and 90 day sprints can help create focus and momentum Some of the key topics coming up across the series Why standards, mindset and personal performance matter in business The problem with “stand collecting” in flooring showrooms Why pricing, marketing, websites and recruitment will all be covered How listeners can get involved by suggesting topics or joining the conversation Memorable Quote: “I’m just going to go for it. I’m going to produce 30 in 30 days, get them out and get gone.” Speaker Information: Tom is one of the voices behind The UK Flooring Podcast and a director at Cockerill & Co. Across this 30 day challenge, he’ll be sharing straight-talking advice, personal experience and practical ideas for flooring businesses that want to improve, grow and think differently. Where to Find The UK Flooring Podcast: Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/59DLhGPVKNtVoS656EYtxq?si=1d8ec03552a94a3c Listen on Apple Podcasts: [Insert Apple Podcasts link] Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cockerillco6141 Follow The UK Flooring Podcast on social media for new episodes, clips and updates throughout the 30 day challenge. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    10 min
  6. Moisture Testing, DPMs, Floor Failures and Doing Subfloor Prep Properly with UltraFloor

    May 14

    Moisture Testing, DPMs, Floor Failures and Doing Subfloor Prep Properly with UltraFloor

    This episode of The UK Flooring Podcast sits down with Kelsey and Mark from UltraFloor for a proper technical chat about moisture testing, DPMs, primers, smoothing compounds, adhesives, training, and the mistakes that can turn a job into an expensive failure. Because when it comes to subfloor prep, guessing is where the problems start. Whether it’s moisture, contaminants, the wrong primer, mixing brands, or not understanding what you’re actually going over, the small details can make a massive difference once the floor covering goes down. Kelsey and Mark explain why more fitters should be moisture testing properly, how UltraFloor’s site support works, when a DPM might be overkill, and why using one full system from the same manufacturer gives contractors far more protection if something goes wrong. One of the biggest takeaways is simple: don’t wait until the floor fails to ask for help. Whether you’re unsure about the subfloor, need a spec, or want training for your team, the support is there, and using it could save you a very expensive headache. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why moisture testing is still one of the biggest gaps in flooring The difference between moisture suppressants and epoxy DPMs When using a DPM on every job might be overkill Why mixing different manufacturers’ systems can leave you exposed How to choose the right primer for porous and non-porous subfloors Why UltraFloor has different smoothing compounds for different situations The difference between bag and bottle products and water-mix compounds What lignite is, and why it can cause serious floor failures The most common mistakes Kelsey and Mark see on site Why contaminants like paint, plaster and laitance need removing properly How UltraFloor’s training academy and webinars can support contractors Why asking for help early is better than dealing with a failed floor later Memorable Quote: “Moisture is definitely the most common one, but it’s insufficient prep. People not asking when they get to site, what is this subfloor?” Speaker Information: Kelsey is an Area Sales Manager for UltraFloor, covering the Midlands and the East. She supports contractors on site, helps with moisture testing and specifications, and works closely with customers to make sure the right systems are being used for the right jobs. Mark is the National Key Account Manager for UltraFloor and has been with the business for eight years. His role involves working with distribution, customers and contractors, supporting technical conversations, site visits and wider product guidance across the UltraFloor range. UltraFloor provides subfloor preparation systems, including DPMs, primers, smoothing compounds and adhesives, alongside technical support, training, site visits and product guidance for flooring professionals. Where To Find The UK Flooring Podcast: Website: https://theukflooringpodcast.co.uk/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6E2SllHM89hF2tntrW0v8k Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-uk-flooring-podcast/id1585627584 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theukflooringpodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    35 min
  7. Building a Showroom That Actually Sells with Murray Biggs of Woven & Woods

    May 7

    Building a Showroom That Actually Sells with Murray Biggs of Woven & Woods

    This episode of The UK Flooring Podcast sits down with Murray Biggs, founder of Woven & Woods, for a proper honest chat about retail, showroom design, customer experience, and what it really takes to build a flooring business that stands out. Murray shares how he went from working in carpet retail at 16 to opening his first showroom in Twickenham with borrowed money, limited budget, and a clear idea of what he didn’t want to be. No red sale banners. No showroom packed with every stand going. No bland retail experience that looks like everyone else. Instead, Woven & Woods was built around impact, storytelling, and making the customer feel like they are in the right place before anyone has even started selling to them. The conversation gets into the thinking behind showroom layout, why too much choice can become a problem, how data helped Murray decide where to open his second showroom in Richmond, and why customer experience matters more than ever when footfall is harder to come by. It is also a very real conversation about the less glamorous side of growth: cash flow, overheads, staffing, warehousing, business partners, self-doubt, and learning how to back yourself again when business gets difficult. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Murray started Woven & Woods with £25,000 of seed money and less than £10,000 left to build the first showroom Why he refused to create a typical flooring shop full of manufacturer stands and sale banners How cheap materials, used properly, helped create a high-impact showroom with a clear identity Why Woven & Woods limits its carpet ranges rather than trying to show everything The importance of using data, not just gut feeling, when opening a second showroom How the river between Twickenham and Richmond affects customer behaviour more than you might expect Why the first few steps inside a showroom matter, and how customers need space to settle into the environment How showroom design can tell a story before the sales conversation even starts Why a messy showroom is a non-negotiable problem for Murray How to make flooring one of the enjoyable parts of a stressful renovation project Why customer experience is about much more than being friendly The hidden costs of running retail showrooms in London, including rent, rates, warehousing, staff, pensions, and cash flow Why bigger businesses often come with bigger problems The best business advice Murray has read, and why focusing on what you are best at helped the business grow The danger of choosing the wrong business partner, even when the opportunity looks right at the time How a difficult year in business led Murray to question his decision-making and join Make or Break Why sometimes the thing holding the business back is the person running it Memorable Quote: “I would probably lose interest in the business if the business lost its wow factor to clients.” Speaker Information: Murray Biggs is the founder of Woven & Woods, a flooring and carpet retailer based in South West London, with showrooms in Twickenham and Richmond. Woven & Woods focuses on the mid to high-end residential market, helping customers choose flooring, carpets, wood flooring, and other products for homes and renovation projects. The business is known for its distinctive showroom style, carefully selected product ranges, and customer-first approach. Website: https://www.wovenandwoods.com Instagram: @wovenandwoods https://www.instagram.com/wovenandwoods/ Facebook: @wovenandwoods https://www.facebook.com/wovenandwoods/ Where to Find The UK Flooring Podcast: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6zBTR6F44i7E6Tp4k6t8jv Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-uk-flooring-podcast/id1668971415 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheUKFlooringPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    44 min
  8. Veatu Flooring - Scaling a Commercial Flooring Business Without Losing the Team Behind It

    Apr 30

    Veatu Flooring - Scaling a Commercial Flooring Business Without Losing the Team Behind It

    This episode of The UK Flooring Podcast sits down with Ben Montgomery and Peter Cohen from Veatu Flooring for a proper behind-the-scenes chat about growth, recruitment, commercial flooring, and what really happens when a business starts moving fast. Veatu Flooring started in 2019 and has grown from a small office with a handful of people into a commercial flooring business with a team of more than 20, working across sectors including schools, hospitals, residential, retail, supermarkets, tiling, hard flooring, resin, paving, and more. But as Ben and Peter explain, growth is not just about winning bigger jobs. It brings pressure, cost, cash flow demands, recruitment challenges, payment terms, tighter margins, and the need to build a structure that can actually handle the work. One of the biggest takeaways is that the team matters more than anything. Skills can be trained, but attitude, ambition, culture fit, and the willingness to graft are what keep a business moving when things get chaotic. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Veatu Flooring started almost by accident, and grew into a fast-moving commercial flooring business. Why growth can be a good problem, but only if the business is built properly behind the scenes. The challenge of keeping standards high while materials, labour, and operating costs continue to rise. Why recruitment is about more than skills, and why the right people need to fit the culture as well as the role. How Veatu have kept a family feel as the business has grown and become part of a wider group. Why cash flow and payment terms can make or break commercial flooring businesses, especially on larger projects. The opportunities Veatu are now looking at, including Tier 1 contractors, rail, government projects, and larger commercial packages. Why the flooring industry is still so relationship-led, even as businesses get bigger and more professional. Memorable Quote: “The business is screaming at you what it needs.” Speaker Information Ben Montgomery Operations Director, Veatu Flooring https://veatuflooring.com/ Peter Cohen Operations Manager, Veatu Flooring https://veatuflooring.com/ Where to Find The UK Flooring Podcast: Website: https://theukflooringpodcast.co.uk/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theukflooringpodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theukflooringpodcast/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/59DLhGPVKNtVoS656EYtxq Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-uk-flooring-podcast/id1606720642 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    44 min

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The UK Flooring Podcast, produced by Cockerill & Co, is on a mission to elevate and unite the flooring industry community. Our aim is to connect every facet of the industry, from retailers and contractors to manufacturers and distributors. Since its debut in January 2022, The UK Flooring Podcast has become a vibrant hub for sharing compelling stories and valuable insights from flooring professionals. We’re passionate about building a strong community and sparking dynamic conversations that not only inspire and inform but also entertain and uplift our listeners.  Join us as we explore the endless possibilities within the flooring world and celebrate the people who make it thrive. If you're interested in being featured on the podcast or for more information on sponsorship opportunities, please reach out to us. Email: hello@cockerillandco.co.uk Call: +441325952548 Web: www.theukflooringpodcast.co.uk www.cockerillandco.co.uk Instagram @theukflooringpodcast @cockerillandco Facebook @theukflooringpodcast @cockerillandco LinkedIn The UK Flooring Podcast Cockerill & Co Watch On YouTube Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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