Self Made Is a Myth: How Business Owners Escape the Messy Midde and Scale

Tim Campsall - The Messy Middle Guy
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This podcast is for established business owners who feel busy, overwhelmed, and like too much still depends on them. Revenue is growing, the team is bigger, and opportunities keep showing up, but freedom and scalability aren’t. This is the Messy Middle, and it’s where I do my best work. I’m Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, and I help established owner-led businesses get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. The Messy Middle is the stage of growth where the business has outgrown the way it’s being run. The owner becomes the bottleneck because too many decisions still require their approval, systems and processes haven’t kept pace with growth, and accountability still depends too heavily on the owner’s presence. Most owners don’t describe themselves as stuck. They describe themselves as busy because they’re solving problems, answering questions, approving work, putting out fires, and working harder than ever. They struggle to get out of the day-to-day because the business still depends on them to keep things moving. That’s what being stuck in the Messy Middle often looks like. Self Made Is a Myth explores what it really takes to grow a business beyond the owner. We talk about systems, leadership, delegation, decision-making, relationships, accountability, and the mindset shifts required to get unstuck and scale. Each episode features real business owners sharing: • The challenges that stalled their growth • The mistakes that kept them stuck • The systems, structure, and support that helped them scale • The people who shaped their thinking, decisions, and direction along the way For established businesses doing roughly $1 million to $10 million in revenue, growth often stalls not because the owner isn’t working hard enough, but because the business still depends too heavily on them. The hustle and grind that helped build the business rarely scales it to the next stage of growth. Scaling requires a shift: • From operator to CEO • From doing the work to building the business • From owner dependence to systems and accountability • From constant effort to predictable execution This podcast is designed to help business owners get out of the day-to-day, stop being the bottleneck, delegate more effectively, build stronger leadership teams, create repeatable systems, improve accountability and profitability, and ultimately build a more valuable business that can run without them. Because Self Made Is a Myth. No successful business is built alone, and growth happens faster when we learn from each other, challenge our assumptions, and get the right people around us. If you’re stuck in the Messy Middle, you don’t have to navigate it alone. There are two ways to take the next step depending on where you are right now. Ready to Get Unstuck & Scale? Explore our complimentary 2-Week Coaching Trial for established business owners who want to step back, gain clarity, and identify the highest-impact opportunities in their business. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/ Explore The Messy Middle Not ready for coaching? Explore our complimentary Messy Middle resources, assessment, podcast, live events, and other ways to connect with business owners navigating the same stage of growth. https://tbcactioncoach.com/messy-middle-owners-community/

  1. Jul 29

    #258: Doing Installations Yourself Leaves No Time To Grow | Garrett Brown

    Trying to grow your business, but still doing work your team should be able to handle?   In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, sits down with Garrett Brown from Next Day Access. Garrett owns three territories covering Central Indiana and Fort Wayne, helping people stay safe and independent through wheelchair ramps, grab bars, stair lifts, platform lifts, patient lifts, and other accessibility solutions.   Earlier in the business, Garrett handled installations while also serving as the main salesperson and answering technical customer questions. Because parts of the team were not fully trained, he had less time to respond to customers, recruit employees, and build referral relationships. The result was slower growth, delayed customer service, late nights, and less time with his family.   Garrett began working through this by training his people, giving them the tools they needed, and trusting them to complete the work. He started handing off small tasks that added up to hours of owner time, shifting his thinking from “me” to “we.”   Today, the same problem has shown up in a new form. Garrett is completing in-person evaluations for a large commercial client, sometimes driving two and a half hours each way, while his priority list continues to grow. With the team near capacity, he is again catching up after his children go to bed instead of focusing on growing the business.   This is what the Messy Middle looks like when an owner has delegated some of the work, but the business continues creating new responsibilities that depend on them. Growth requires continuing to build capacity before the next bottleneck takes control of the owner’s time.   What You’ll Learn: Why doing skilled work yourself can limit business growthHow small tasks add up to hours of lost owner timeWhy training your team must remain a priority when you are busyHow trusting employees creates capacity for higher-value workWhy growth keeps creating new owner bottlenecks to solve  Timestamps:   00:01 - Doing installations kept Garrett stuck in the day-to-day 03:03 - The personal cost of working in the business 04:29 - Learning to delegate and trust the team 11:19 - Garrett’s current bottleneck: on-site evaluations 14:19 - What happens if nothing changes? 16:01 - The lesson Garrett wishes he’d learned sooner 18:46 - How outside perspective accelerated growth 23:47 - Garrett’s favorite books and podcasts   Garrett Brown grew up in Indiana, got a degree in mechanical engineering, and worked in manufacturing for fourteen years. In 2023, Garrett joined the Next Day Access franchise and opened the first location in Indiana. He has a wife, two kids, and spends his free time with his family or tinkering with a 3D printer.   Garrett owns and operates three territories of Next Day Access operating out of Indianapolis. They cover central Indiana and Fort Wayne, with the goal of helping people stay safe in their home. Solutions include aluminum wheelchair ramp, grab bars, handrails, stairlifts, bathroom safety, and anything else that helps prevent falls and injuries. Learn more here: https://www.nextdayaccess.com/indianapolis-in/ ABOUT TIM CAMPSALL, THE MESSY MIDDLE GUY Tim helps owners to get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. https://unstuckandscale.com #TheMessyMiddleGuy #OwnerLedBusiness #SelfMadeIsAMyth #GetUnstuckAndScale

    #258: Doing Installations Yourself Leaves No Time To Grow | Garrett Brown

  2. Jun 24

    #257: Doing It Yourself Prevents Manager Growth & Keeps You Stuck In Day-to-Day | Scott Noel

    Does everything still need your approval before work can move forward? In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, sits down with Scott Noel from Braun Property Development and Hallmark Homes. Scott shares what he learned while helping grow Hallmark Homes into new business models. Earlier in Hallmark’s growth, Scott was involved in sales approvals, customer questions, change orders, inspections, and construction issues. He worked weekends to better understand customers and regularly stepped into detailed operational problems. As the company scaled toward building hundreds of homes each year, too many decisions still flowed through him. The phone rang constantly during business hours, pushing his own work into early mornings and evenings. To work through that challenge, the company focused on creating systems and processes so recurring problems would not continue happening. They developed role identification, checklists, and operational frameworks to reduce day-to-day reactiveness. Today, Hallmark is approaching fifty employees and continues building its management layer. Scott and the other senior leaders are working to reduce the issues that flow directly to them. Finding the right managers, equipping them properly, and helping them operate within clear guardrails remains an ongoing challenge. When expectations are not met or projects move slower than expected, Scott sometimes steps back in and does the work himself. This is what the Messy Middle looks like when the owner is no longer handling every task but is still relied on for direction, decisions, and problem solving. The work changes, but too much still flows back through the owner. What You’ll Learn: • Why too many approvals flowing through the owner can limit growth • How systems and processes reduce day-to-day reactiveness • The role management layers play in a growing company • Why autonomy requires both confidence and guardrails • How stepping back in can slow team development Timestamps: 00:00 - Getting pulled into approvals and decisions 00:43 - Why being in the weeds limited growth 03:39 - The personal toll of constant interruptions 05:42 - Building systems and processes 10:37 - Building a management layer 12:13 - Autonomy, confidence, and guardrails 14:21 - Stepping back in and doing the work yourself 18:44 - Lessons learned about hiring and accountability Scott Noel is President of Hallmark Homes and a Principal of Braun Property Development, two Indiana-based companies focused on homebuilding, land development, and residential real estate investment. A graduate of DePauw University, Scott began his career in financial services before transitioning into real estate development and homebuilding. Today he oversees projects ranging from single-family communities to build-to-rent and multifamily developments throughout Central Indiana. Scott lives in the Zionsville with his family and enjoys kids activities (x5) and helping create housing opportunities that strengthen local communities. Hallmark Homes and Braun Property Development are Indiana-based companies focused on residential homebuilding, land development, and real estate investment. Together, the companies have delivered more than 1,000 residential lots, developed communities throughout Central Indiana, and build hundreds of homes each year. ABOUT TIM CAMPSALL, THE MESSY MIDDLE GUY Tim helps owners to get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. https://unstuckandscale.com #TheMessyMiddleGuy #OwnerLedBusiness #SelfMadeIsAMyth #GetUnstuckAndScale

    #257: Doing It Yourself Prevents Manager Growth & Keeps You Stuck In Day-to-Day | Scott Noel

  3. May 12

    #256: Running Production Yourself Limits How Many Jobs Your Business Can Take | Crystal & Krista

    Trying to scale your business, but still getting pulled back into the field? This is what the Messy Middle looks like when the business has grown, but the owner is still the one customers, crews, and employees rely on to keep the work moving. The company may have demand, people, and opportunity, but growth gets limited when the owner is still the one in the day-to-day problems. In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, sits down with Crystal and Krista from Dynamic Landscaping and Lawn & Turf Landscaping. Their companies provide residential landscaping, commercial maintenance, lawn care, irrigation, design-build services, and snow services in Indiana. Earlier in the business, Crystal was in the field working with crews because she believed she was the only one who could sell and run production. Krista was also staying too close administratively because she felt she had to be beside people instead of giving them room to do the work. Because of that, the business could only run one or two jobs at a time when it could have been running more. They realized they were the bottleneck and started changing how they trained and delegated. They made training videos, documented work with pictures, gave people more room to learn, and began teaching team members to train the next person instead of staying stuck in one role themselves. Today, Crystal and Krista are still working through the next version of that same challenge. Crystal is getting pulled back into flowers because someone had not been fully trained to own that work, while Krista is focused on building systems, numbers, and accountability so the team can follow a clear process instead of relying on what only the owners know. What You’ll Learn: • Why owners get pulled back into the field when no one else is trained • How being the only person who can sell and run production limits growth • Why hiring people without systems can pull owners back into the day-to-day • How training videos and documentation help the next person learn faster • Why growing leaders becomes the owner’s real work in the Messy Middle Timestamps: 00:00 Getting pulled back into the day-to-day 00:51 Being the only one who could sell and run production 02:28 Realizing the owners were the bottleneck 02:47 Using training videos to expand capacity 08:12 Getting pulled back into flowers and operations 09:50 Hiring people before systems were ready 12:55 Needing numbers to get out of the field 19:12 Staying stuck at $3 million for three years Crystal Knafel is a growth-focused entrepreneur and co-owner of Dynamic Landscaping and Lawn & Turf Landscaping. She specializes in building strong teams, scalable systems, and culture-driven companies throughout the landscaping industry. Known for her visionary mindset and high standards, she is focused on creating a Midwest landscaping platform that develops people, delivers exceptional service, and builds long-term enterprise value through accountability, teamwork, and continuous improvement. Krista Bontrager is the integrator and co-owner.  She brings structure, clarity, and organization to the day-to-day operations of both companies.  She has a talent for taking what feels complex and making it simple, sustainable, and clear.   Her leadership ensures that as the companies scale for growth, it carries alignment, accountability, and strong internal systems.   ABOUT TIM CAMPSALL, THE MESSY MIDDLE GUY Tim helps owners to get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. https://unstuckandscale.com #TheMessyMiddleGuy #OwnerLedBusiness #SelfMadeIsAMyth #GetUnstuckAndScale

    #256: Running Production Yourself Limits How Many Jobs Your Business Can Take | Crystal & Krista

  4. May 8

    #255: Constant Questions Keep Owners Stuck In Operations | Austin Walls

    Trying to grow your business while everything still runs through you? This is what the Messy Middle looks like when the business has grown, the team is bigger, and the owner is no longer doing everything themselves, but employees still depend on the owner for decisions, accountability, and direction. The business works, but too much still relies on the owner staying closely involved in the day-to-day to keep things moving. In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, sits down with Austin from Walls Furniture and Mattress. Austin shares what it looked like building and growing a family-owned furniture business while staying heavily involved in nearly every part of the operation. Earlier in the business, Austin was handling inventory, ordering, payroll, accounting, sales management, warehouse operations, and customer issues all at once. Employees were constantly coming to him with questions because he kept everything close to the vest and they did not feel comfortable making decisions without him. Even though the business was growing, he had almost no life outside of work and missed vacations and family time because the business constantly needed his attention. Over time, Austin realized the business had become too large to operate without better systems and more employee ownership. He implemented a point-of-sale and inventory system, gave employees more authority in customer decisions, and worked on trusting people to take ownership of their responsibilities instead of routing everything back through him. Today, Austin is still wearing multiple hats across sales management, accounting, warehouse operations, customer service, and deliveries. He talks about spending four weeks personally working on the delivery truck while still trying to manage the rest of the business. The company no longer depends on him being physically in the store every minute, but he is still heavily involved in accountability, operational oversight, and decision-making while trying to create enough capacity to grow the business further. This is what the Messy Middle looks like when the owner has delegated some of the work, but the business still depends heavily on them to keep operations moving and create the next stage of growth. What You’ll Learn: • Why employees keep coming to the owner for decisions • How owner involvement limits team ownership • Why systems become necessary as a business grows • How trust affects delegation and accountability • The opportunity cost of staying stuck in operations Timestamps: 00:00 Everything still ran through Austin 00:36 Wearing every hat in the business 01:41 Missing family time because of the business 02:36 Installing systems and giving employees ownership 07:42 Back on the delivery truck for four weeks 11:57 Too big to be small, too small to be big 13:36 Learning to trust employees with ownership 19:04 Why owners stay stuck doing $25/hour work Austin is the owner of Walls Furniture and Mattress in Kokomo, Indiana. At Walls Furniture we believe that our neighbors are family we operate from that premise everyday. Come see the difference for yourself at 521 E Alto Rd in Kokomo or shop online at shopwallsfurniture.com. We would love to have you be a part of our family. ABOUT TIM CAMPSALL, THE MESSY MIDDLE GUY Tim helps owners to get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. https://unstuckandscale.com #TheMessyMiddleGuy #OwnerLedBusiness #SelfMadeIsAMyth #GetUnstuckAndScale

    #255: Constant Questions Keep Owners Stuck In Operations | Austin Walls

  5. May 5

    #254: Doing Your Own Data Entry Because You Don’t Trust Your Team Slows Growth | Seth Wilson

    Trying to scale your business, but still getting pulled back into the details? In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, sits down with Seth from Adler Attorneys. Adler Attorneys is a law firm in Hamilton County, Indiana, focused on estate planning, business work, consulting, and serving as general counsel for businesses. Earlier in the business, Seth found himself spending an inordinate amount of time controlling the data entry piece of things. He felt responsible for making sure information was entered accurately, but that administrative work was taking him away from drafting contracts, handling discovery, serving clients, and moving projects forward. To work through it, Seth had to acknowledge his tendency to control the work all the way through. He began investing in training, setting clearer expectations, giving feedback, and building the trust needed to let the team handle more of the work. Now the business has grown, and a similar pattern has shown up in task-based project management. The firm created systems and processes that worked for a season, but as the number of similar cases grew, the number of tasks multiplied too, pulling Seth back into moving due dates, managing tasks, and spending time moving data around again. This is what the Messy Middle looks like when the business has outgrown a system that used to work. The owner is no longer doing everything, but the structure still needs to evolve so capacity, client service, and growth do not depend on the owner constantly keeping the machine moving. Growth creates more projects, more tasks, and more follow-up, and before long, the owner is back inside the day-to-day. What You’ll Learn: * Why owners get pulled back into data and task management even after delegating * How controlling the details limits capacity and keeps owners from higher-value work * Why training and clear expectations are necessary before trust can grow * How systems that worked in one season can become constraints in the next * Why capacity, client service, and consistency depend on stronger operating structure Timestamps: (00:00) Controlling data entry was limiting capacity (02:36) Learning to train, trust, and hand work off (04:45) What Adler Attorneys does (05:31) Stepping into ownership and managing control (12:38) Task-based project management pulls Seth back in (14:11) Capacity becomes the reason the system has to change (17:21) The cost of not delegating sooner (21:50) Why outside perspective helps owners see what they cannot Seth graduated from Regent Law School in Virginia Beach, Virginia, where he served as Editor-in-Chief of Regent Law Review. Seth has become known as “Indiana’s artificially intelligent lawyer,” which simply means his colleagues figured out he’s only artificially intelligent. Seth co-hosts the Lifetime Legacy Lawyers podcast where he helps lawyers launch and build their law practices. Seth also writes articles and presents CLE seminars on how to best use technology to enhance the practice of law, while meeting ethical obligations with regard to client and firm data. He has been married for almost 24 years to an amazing wife and has 3 awesome kids. Seth R. Wilson practices with Adler Attorneys, with offices in Noblesville and Anderson, Indiana. Seth is an Estate and Business lawyer & mediator. His goal is to provide clients with peace of mind through proper business and estate planning. ABOUT TIM CAMPSALL, THE MESSY MIDDLE GUY Tim helps owners to get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. https://unstuckandscale.com #TheMessyMiddleGuy #OwnerLedBusiness #SelfMadeIsAMyth #GetUnstuckAndScale

    #254: Doing Your Own Data Entry Because You Don’t Trust Your Team Slows Growth | Seth Wilson

  6. May 1

    #253: Can’t Take More Clients Because You Do The Work Even On Weekends | Angela Roberts

    Trying to grow your business, but still doing all the client work yourself? This is what the Messy Middle looks like when referrals are coming in, but the owner is still the main capacity in the business. Growth slows when one person is doing the work, running the company, and trying to build the next level at the same time. In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, sits down with Angela Roberts from Main Accounting Services. Main Accounting Services provides accounting services, not tax, for law firms. Earlier in the business, Angela was doing all of the client work herself. Referrals were coming in, but she had to cap new clients because there was not more of her. That meant long weekdays, Saturdays, and missing valuable family time. Angela realized she needed more than part-time help. She hired a higher-level person who could help build the business, not just do the client work. That person became her right arm and is now the COO. Now Angela is no longer doing accounting work, but the current challenge is team structure and culture. She is working on clear expectations, internal procedures, project management, and getting everybody on the same page. This is what the Messy Middle looks like when the owner is no longer doing all the client work, but the business still needs stronger internal structure so the team can keep growing. What You’ll Learn: Why doing all the client work can cap growthHow referrals create pressure when capacity depends on one ownerWhy higher-level help matters when the business needs to growWhat changes when the owner moves from doing the work to leading othersWhy internal procedures matter as the team grows Timestamps: (00:00) Doing all the work pulls Angela into the day-to-day (00:48) Referrals come in, but capacity runs out (01:28) Hiring a higher-level right arm (02:53) Missing valuable family time (04:40) What Main Accounting Services does (05:06) Choosing law firms as the niche (07:50) Current challenge: team structure and culture (09:22) Building internal procedures and project management Angela Main Roberts earned her Bachelor of Science degree in Accounting and is a QuickBooks Online® ProAdvisor. Her passion for helping business owners understand their finances has led her to curate a capable and resourceful team. Her diverse accounting background allows her to tackle a wide range of problems with creative solutions. She has experience with various accounting roles in manufacturing, service industries, and small businesses. Main Accounting Services specializes in increasing the success and profitability of growing law firms! Our mission is to empower law firm owners by helping you understand your financial reports. ABOUT TIM CAMPSALL, THE MESSY MIDDLE GUY Tim helps owners to get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. https://unstuckandscale.com #TheMessyMiddleGuy #OwnerLedBusiness #SelfMadeIsAMyth #GetUnstuckAndScale

    #253: Can’t Take More Clients Because You Do The Work Even On Weekends | Angela Roberts

  7. Apr 29

    #252: Chasing Leads Yourself Keeps Sales Stuck | Wayne Purcell

    Trying to grow your business, but still doing too much of the follow-up yourself? This is what the Messy Middle looks like when leads are coming in, but the owner is still carrying the process that turns interest into sales. Growth slows when follow-up depends on one person to gather the information, remember the next step, make the calls, send the emails, and keep everything moving. In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Wayne Purcell from AIRFeet. AIRFeet makes a super thin, air-chambered active arch insole that moves under the foot and helps reduce discomfort and pain for people who stand, walk, work, or play sports. Earlier in the business, shows and expos created a heavy follow-up burden for Wayne. He could walk away with a couple hundred leads, but the real work came afterward, gathering the data, entering it, making calls, sending emails, and continuing to follow up while still running the company. To work through it, Wayne recognized that if the business was going to get above where it was, something had to change. He began aligning with people who could help take the company to the next level and relieve some of the workload. Now the business has evolved, but follow-up is still the current tension. This is what the Messy Middle looks like when demand is there, the product works, and opportunity is real, but growth still depends too heavily on the owner managing the follow-up. What You’ll Learn: Why show leads do not turn into growth without consistent follow-upHow manual follow-up can pull the owner away from the rest of the businessWhat gets missed when new leads take attention away from existing customersWhy business owners often take problems back after trying to let goHow better lead systems can help turn interest into actual customers Timestamps: (00:00) The past problem pulling Wayne into the day-to-day (00:09) Exhibit follow-up becomes a chasm of effort (01:02) Gathering leads, data, calls, and emails after shows (02:13) Everything stops when follow-up takes over (03:50) The personal cost of doubt, pressure, and lost priorities (05:01) Recognizing the need to change how growth is handled (06:36) What AIRFeet does and how the product helps people (12:59) Current challenge: sales follow-up and lead management Wayne is the owner of three companies, each built around innovation, problem-solving, and business growth. His largest and most challenging venture is AIRfeet, a company providing pain relief, comfort, support, and performance solutions through innovative Active Insole products. AIRfeet products are designed to improve comfort, target painful ailments and improve performance for people who spend long hours on their feet every day. Learn more at https://myairfeet.com Here is a discount code to get 25% off with Free Shipping: SELFMADE ABOUT TIM CAMPSALL, THE MESSY MIDDLE GUY Tim helps owners to get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. https://unstuckandscale.com #TheMessyMiddleGuy #OwnerLedBusiness #SelfMadeIsAMyth #GetUnstuckAndScale

    #252: Chasing Leads Yourself Keeps Sales Stuck | Wayne Purcell

  8. Apr 16

    #251 Training Every New Hire Keeps You Stuck and Slows Growth | Nick Jaworski

    Trying to grow your business, but still getting pulled back into parts of the work you don’t want to own? This is what the Messy Middle looks like when growth creates new bottlenecks instead of removing old ones. As the business scales, solving one constraint often exposes the next, and the owner gets pulled back into the day-to-day in a different way. In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, sits down with Nick from Circle Social Inc. Circle Social is a marketing and consulting agency focused primarily on healthcare organizations, providing full-service marketing for clients that want to fully outsource strategy and execution rather than rely on a single channel. Earlier in the business, Nick was growing quickly, doubling revenue and staff year over year, but training became a major constraint. Every new hire required around 40 hours of hands-on onboarding, which pulled him and the leadership team away from sales, strategy, and client work. To solve this, Nick stepped back with his leadership team and mapped out the entire training process. They turned it into structured checklists, built out presentations, and recorded a full training system that could be delivered without direct involvement. Now the business has changed, with strong systems in place and a leadership team that manages the day-to-day, but a new version of the same pattern has shown up in sales. Nick is still the one handling inbound leads, filtering prospects, running calls, and closing deals, which has become the primary bottleneck. This is what the Messy Middle looks like when operations are no longer the constraint, but growth still runs through the owner, keeping the business from moving forward at the next level. What You’ll Learn: Why training can quietly become a growth bottleneck during rapid hiringHow building structured systems creates long-term operational leverageWhy solving one bottleneck often reveals the next constraintHow sales dependency can limit growth even in a stable business Timestamps: 00:00 Intro and training identified as early bottleneck 00:49 40-hour onboarding creates time drain 01:08 Training pulls leadership away from core work 01:41 Personal impact: stress, boredom, and repetition 03:25 Decision to build structured training system 04:50 Investment required to complete training system 08:45 Sales becomes the next bottleneck 10:16 Owner remains responsible for all sales activity 11:41 Business stability vs growth tradeoff 12:14 Responsibility to team and need for continued growth Nick Jaworski is an internationally recognized executive in the field of behavioral health marketing and operational consulting with experience building organizations across four continents. Circle Social Inc is a healthcare marketing agency that specializes in helping recovery centers and other healthcare organizations connect with patients and their communities to grow their census and help more people. ABOUT TIM CAMPSALL, THE MESSY MIDDLE GUY Tim helps owners to get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. https://unstuckandscale.com #TheMessyMiddleGuy #OwnerLedBusiness #SelfMadeIsAMyth #GetUnstuckAndScale

    #251 Training Every New Hire Keeps You Stuck and Slows Growth | Nick Jaworski
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This podcast is for established business owners who feel busy, overwhelmed, and like too much still depends on them. Revenue is growing, the team is bigger, and opportunities keep showing up, but freedom and scalability aren’t. This is the Messy Middle, and it’s where I do my best work. I’m Tim Campsall, The Messy Middle Guy, and I help established owner-led businesses get unstuck, scale, and build a more valuable business that can run without them. The Messy Middle is the stage of growth where the business has outgrown the way it’s being run. The owner becomes the bottleneck because too many decisions still require their approval, systems and processes haven’t kept pace with growth, and accountability still depends too heavily on the owner’s presence. Most owners don’t describe themselves as stuck. They describe themselves as busy because they’re solving problems, answering questions, approving work, putting out fires, and working harder than ever. They struggle to get out of the day-to-day because the business still depends on them to keep things moving. That’s what being stuck in the Messy Middle often looks like. Self Made Is a Myth explores what it really takes to grow a business beyond the owner. We talk about systems, leadership, delegation, decision-making, relationships, accountability, and the mindset shifts required to get unstuck and scale. Each episode features real business owners sharing: • The challenges that stalled their growth • The mistakes that kept them stuck • The systems, structure, and support that helped them scale • The people who shaped their thinking, decisions, and direction along the way For established businesses doing roughly $1 million to $10 million in revenue, growth often stalls not because the owner isn’t working hard enough, but because the business still depends too heavily on them. The hustle and grind that helped build the business rarely scales it to the next stage of growth. Scaling requires a shift: • From operator to CEO • From doing the work to building the business • From owner dependence to systems and accountability • From constant effort to predictable execution This podcast is designed to help business owners get out of the day-to-day, stop being the bottleneck, delegate more effectively, build stronger leadership teams, create repeatable systems, improve accountability and profitability, and ultimately build a more valuable business that can run without them. Because Self Made Is a Myth. No successful business is built alone, and growth happens faster when we learn from each other, challenge our assumptions, and get the right people around us. If you’re stuck in the Messy Middle, you don’t have to navigate it alone. There are two ways to take the next step depending on where you are right now. Ready to Get Unstuck & Scale? Explore our complimentary 2-Week Coaching Trial for established business owners who want to step back, gain clarity, and identify the highest-impact opportunities in their business. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/ Explore The Messy Middle Not ready for coaching? Explore our complimentary Messy Middle resources, assessment, podcast, live events, and other ways to connect with business owners navigating the same stage of growth. https://tbcactioncoach.com/messy-middle-owners-community/

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