We Have A Meeting

We Have A Meeting

Every week, Jack Frimston and Zac Thompson from We Have A Meeting chat with brilliant entrepreneurs about sales, mindset, marketing, and everything in between. It’s smart, human, and full of ideas you can actually use. Tune in for sharp conversations, fresh perspectives, and a few laughs along the way.

  1. 20H AGO

    Salespeople Who Swear Close 8% More Deals (Here’s Why)

    Salespeople who swear on their calls close 8% more deals. Marketing teams using pink and purple instead of "Series A Blues" get more attention. Companies that avoid pissing anyone off end up exciting no one. In this episode, we sit down with Udi Ledergor, Chief Evangelist and former CMO at Gong, to unpack the psychology behind courageous marketing, the real impact of AI on sales teams, and why being different beats being better every single time. Udi reveals how Gong built one of the most recognizable brands in B2B by rejecting best practices, embracing controversy, and creating a culture where teams feel safe to fail. From the drooling bulldog mascot that made enterprise customers angry, to the viral research on swearing in sales calls, to the plain-text email that generated 700 event registrations in hours—this is a masterclass in standing out in a sea of sameness. We also dive deep into AI: what it can actually do right now, what it can't, and why the creators of ChatGPT don't use ChatGPT to run their revenue teams. Spoiler: AI isn't coming for your job. But salespeople who know how to use AI are coming for the jobs of those who don't. What You'll Learn: Why swearing on sales calls increases win rates by 8% The danger of "best practices" and why boring is the biggest risk in B2B marketing How to build a brand that polarizes—without crossing the line The two buckets of AI: what it can automate vs. what it can guide you on Why OpenAI and Anthropic use Gong to run their revenue teams (and what that tells you about generic LLMs) The plain-text email experiment that got 700 event sign-ups in hours How to create psychological safety on your team so they take risks and do their best work Why indifference is worse than hate when it comes to your messaging From privacy policy emails that went viral, to bulldogs on login screens, to the Starburst logo that refused to fit neatly into a square, this episode will change how you think about marketing, sales, and standing out in 2026. If your brand feels invisible, your messaging feels safe, or your team feels stuck playing by the rules everyone else is playing by, this conversation will give you permission to break free. Sponsored by Prospeo, the easiest way to find verified emails and contact data for outbound and lead generation. 98% more effective at finding mobile numbers and email addresses. Try it free at prospeo.io/wham About the Guest: Udi Ledergor is Chief Evangelist and former CMO at Gong, and author of the bestselling book Courageous Marketing: How to Take the Boring Out of B2B. He's known for building bold, unconventional marketing teams and helping sales leaders understand how AI is transforming their world. Find Udi on LinkedIn and grab his book wherever books are sold. Chapters: 00:00 Salespeople Who Swear Close 8% More Deals: The Research That Went Viral 02:15 Who Is Udi Ledergor: From Gong CMO to Chief Evangelist 04:30 Courageous Marketing: Why Different Beats Better Every Time 08:12 The Series A Blues Problem: How Gong Chose Pink and Purple 11:45 The Drooling Bulldog: When Enterprise Customers Hated the Brand 15:20 How to Be Polarizing Without Crossing the Line 19:03 The Plain-Text Email That Got 700 Event Registrations in Hours 23:47 AI vs Automation: What's Actually New and What's Just Rebranded 28:34 The Two Buckets of AI: Automation and Guidance 32:19 Why OpenAI Uses Gong to Run Their Revenue Team 36:55 Are We Losing Critical Thinking by Outsourcing to AI? 41:28 Building Courageous Teams: Psychological Safety and Process Accountability 47:12 The Privacy Policy Email That Went Viral on Twitter 50:45 One Question to Ask Yourself: How Can You Break Away From Boring Practices? #CourageousMarketing #UdiLedergor #Gong #SalesPsychology #AIinSales #B2BMarketing #WeHaveAMeeting

    44 min
  2. FEB 10

    What Amazon Gets Right (And Everyone Else Gets Wrong) About Meetings

    You think you’re sending a meeting invite. Your team feels like they’ve just received a summons. In this episode on effective workplace communication, expert Chris Fenning reveals why the "blank calendar invite" is destroying your team's productivity. He shares his 3-part TPO Framework (Topic, Purpose, Output) to cut meeting times in half. What you’ll learn: • How to start every meeting so people instantly know why they’re there • The TPO framework that cuts meeting time in half • The polite sentence that brings a hijacked meeting back on track • How to write emails people actually reply to • How to communicate clearly between teams, experts, and non-experts Chapters: 00:00 The Meeting Framework That Changes Everything: Topic, Purpose, Output 01:14 Who Is Chris Fenning: Helping People Communicate 7% More Efficiently 02:02 The Symptoms of Bad Communication: Glazed Eyes and Endless Meetings 02:51 The First Minute of Every Meeting: Getting Everyone on the Same Page 06:38 The Amazon Six-Page Memo: Why It's Terrible for Most Companies 10:53 Regaining Control: What to Do When Meetings Go Off Track 15:54 The Education Gap: Why Nobody Teaches Us to Communicate at Work 18:48 University of Chris: Building a Communication Curriculum That Actually Works 21:38 Technical Teams vs Business: Bridging the Jargon Gap with Perspective and Impact 24:38 The Email Revolution: Subject Lines, Brevity, and the 30-40% Reduction 34:41 Making Training Stick: The Forgetting Curve and the Power of Repetition 37:23 Energising Your Team: The Anti-Icebreaker Approach to Training 40:33 AI and Communication: Custom GPTs, Chatbots, and the Ikea Success Story About the Guest: Chris Fenning is a communication expert helping technical teams and business leaders speak the same language. Website: chrisfenning.com LinkedIn: Chris Fenning Join the conversation: What's the most pointless meeting you've sat through this week? Tell us in the comments! 👇 #WorkplaceCommunication #ProductivityTips #ChrisFenning #WeHaveAMeeting

    45 min
  3. FEB 5

    Sales Therapy Webinar: Fix Your Sales Problems

    Got a sales problem you can't solve? Struggling with pipeline consistency, no-shows, or closing relationship-led deals? In this live sales therapy session, we answer real questions from the audience and break down what's actually holding your sales back. This isn't theory. This is live troubleshooting for SDRs, BDRs, founders, and anyone trying to fix their sales process in real time. We tackle everything from building consistent pipeline to handling objections, beating call screening, and getting senior decision-makers to actually take your call. In This Episode, We Cover: How to generate consistent sales pipeline (not just one-off wins) Why your meetings have high no-show rates and how to fix it The real reason your tone on cold calls isn't working How to build accurate call lists without wasting time on bad data The LinkedIn outreach strategy that's getting 99% reply rates How to close relationship-led deals without being pushy Getting C-suite and Fortune 500 executives to respond The ACES framework for handling objections in real time We also break down the "Poke the Bear" LinkedIn strategy, why case studies should be stories (not boring PDFs), and how to use direct mail to actually stand out in 2026. If you've ever felt stuck in your sales process, this episode will give you the clarity and tactics you need to move forward. Sponsored by Prospeo, the easiest way to find verified emails and contact data for outbound and lead generation. Try it free at prospeo.io/wham Chapters: 00:00 Sales Therapy Session: Fix Your Sales Problems Live 02:15 How to Generate Consistent Sales Pipeline 07:42 Case Studies and Testimonials: Do It All Upfront 11:20 No Shows on Meetings: The Emotion Problem 16:33 Building Call Lists That Actually Convert 22:47 The New LinkedIn Offering: The Poke the Bear System 28:19 Closing Relationship-Led Deals Without Pressure 32:56 Guarantees and Managing Client Expectations 37:14 Reaching C-Suite and Fortune 500 Decision Makers 42:08 The ACES Framework: Accept, Clarify, Explore, Redirect #SalesTherapy #SalesTips #ColdCalling #LinkedInOutreach #B2BSales #WeHaveAMeeting

    46 min
  4. FEB 3

    The Brutal Truth About Scaling To 7-Figures (Nobody Admits This)

    Stuck at 6 figures? Most entrepreneurs stall because they solve the right problem at the wrong time. In this episode, we reveal the brutal truth about what it really takes to scale a business to 7 figures—without becoming the bottleneck. We sit down with Charlie Johnson, founder of 7 Figure Scaling Systems, to break down the simple, repeatable frameworks you actually need. If you are an online coach, consultant, or agency owner, this is your blueprint to escape unpredictable lead flow and build predictable revenue. Inside This Episode: The "One Question" that predicts if you'll scale or fail. The Trap: Why most businesses break within 12 months. AI vs. Organic: How to make ads and content work together. Pricing Psychology: Hacks to double your close rates instantly. Retention Systems: How to keep clients long-term and stop churn. Charlie shares his journey from online fitness coaching to building multiple seven-figure businesses, proving that personal branding is your biggest competitive advantage in the coming years. Guest: Charlie Johnson (@CharlieJohnsonFitness) (@sevenfigurescalingsystems) Sponsored by Prospeo, the easiest way to find verified emails and contact data for outreach and lead generation. Try it free at prospeo.io/wham Chapters: 00:00 The Fear-Driven Brain: Why Negative Hooks Capture Attention 01:24 From Estate Agent to Seven Figures: Charlie's Origin Story 04:41 Red Ocean vs Blue Ocean: Why Charlie Swims in Harder Waters 06:05 Finding the Bottleneck: The Theory of Constraints in Your Funnel 08:38 The Seven Hour Rule: Why Long-Form Content Builds Trust Faster 10:44 AI-Powered Targeting: Reading Your Customer's Mind Through Data 14:17 The Spider Web Marketing System: How Ads Feed Organic Growth 16:35 The Boosted Follower Campaign: The Lowest Risk Ad Strategy 18:44 Building the Offer: Testing Demand Before You Create the Product 22:07 The Webinar Blueprint: From $27 Tickets to High-Ticket Closes 27:24 Curiosity Plus Fear: The Marketing Hook That Never Gets Old 31:30 From Solopreneur to Team Leader: The Culture Shift That Changed Everything 34:24 Hiring Navy SEALs: The One Question That Reveals Drive 41:52 The Question Nobody Asks: What Do You Actually Want and Why? #scalingbusiness #7figurebusiness #marketingstrategy #businesssystems #entrepreneurship #wehaveameeting #leads

    43 min
  5. FEB 2

    The Dark Psychology of MrBeast: You’re Being Brainwashed

    Why MrBeast is mathematically impossible to ignore. Why do you click on MrBeast videos even when you don't want to? In this sneak peek of We Have A Meeting, Charlie Johnson reveals the dark science of attention engineering. Discover how top creators weaponise curiosity gaps, fear, and dopamine to hijack your brain—and why it has nothing to do with luck. We break down exactly how the human brain is wired to respond to uncertainty and why negative hooks are currently outperforming positive ones. This isn't just about the YouTube algorithm; it's about biology. In this episode, you’ll learn: The Attention Trap: How curiosity gaps and fear keep you bingeing content. The MrBeast Formula: Why his dominance is engineered, not accidental. Viral Cycles: Why audiences are becoming skeptical and what works now. Psychological Triggers: How your brain is being quietly hijacked every time you press play. Stop blaming the algorithm. Start understanding the psychology. Sponsored by Prospeo, the easiest way to find verified emails and contact data for outreach and lead generation. Try it free at prospeo.io/wham Chapters 00:00 The Curiosity Gap: Why MrBeast Crushes on YouTube 00:20 Negative Hooks: Why Fear Drives Action 00:46 The Skepticism Problem: Are We Getting Tired of Being Sold To? 01:16 Curiosity Wins Every Time: The One Thing That Always Works 01:52 Geographic Awareness: Why Mainland Europe Is Less Skeptical 02:20 The Marketing Cycle: Why Strategies Come and Go #MrBeast #ViralPsychology #ContentCreator #WeHaveAMeeting

    3 min

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Every week, Jack Frimston and Zac Thompson from We Have A Meeting chat with brilliant entrepreneurs about sales, mindset, marketing, and everything in between. It’s smart, human, and full of ideas you can actually use. Tune in for sharp conversations, fresh perspectives, and a few laughs along the way.

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