Send us a text A million more people are now economically inactive for health reasons than just a few years ago, and once an employee has been on sick leave for a year or more, the chance of returning drops to around 3%. That is not a wellness statistic. It is a warning light for businesses, communities and the economy and it is the spark for this conversation with Poppie Foakes, Director of Product and Innovation at the Retail Trust, and our Chief Psychology Officer, Dr Amanda Potter. We unpack how prevention beats crisis by design. Poppie explains how the Retail Trust supports a dispersed, shift‑based workforce with tools that actually fit real lives: de‑escalation and resilience training for frontline abuse, virtual GPs that work around rotas, online CBT, and financial coaching that targets the number one anxiety driver in retail. We dig into the evidence, linking preventive investment to lower absenteeism, reduced presenteeism, and fewer leavers critical in a sector where replacing a colleague can cost around £5,000. We also explore why health inequalities persist between head office and store teams, and how simple changes in access and language can close that gap. The conversation gets practical. We share the three culture levers that keep people, fair pay, a strong line manager relationship, and clear purpose and show how they map to psychological safety. Poppie takes us inside their data engine: happiness assessments that generate personal action plans, platform analytics that surface early risk, and emerging agentic AI that recommends targeted campaigns by role, region or demographic. We talk about the Keep Britain Working Review and a future where employers are incentivised or mandated to handle prevention, potentially shrinking a £15 billion annual burden on benefits and healthcare that could rise to £25 billion by 2030. If you lead people, manage a store, or shape HR strategy, you will come away with actionable ideas: train line managers to signpost not shoulder, normalise de‑escalation skills for every frontline worker, make financial education part of culture, and put colleague sentiment on the agenda next to sales. And if you are personally feeling the strain, you will hear small, realistic habits to set boundaries, protect energy, and find one daily moment of joy that keeps you steady. Enjoyed the conversation? Follow and subscribe, share this episode with a colleague who needs it, and leave a quick review so more leaders can build healthier, happier, high‑performing teams. Episodes are available here https://www.thecpo.co.uk/ To follow Zircon on LinkedIn and to be first to hear about podcasts, publications and news, please like and follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/betalent-by-zircon/ To access the research white papers mentioned in this and other podcasts, please go to: https://www.betalent.com/research For more information about the BeTalent suite of tools and platform please contact: Hello@BeTalent.com