See Also See Also Podcast

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This week, Kate is catching up on sleep and thinking about whether slowness can save us. Brodie is railing against the culture of lining up for sandwiches and frozen yoghurt. Then: a live unboxing! Jinxy brought BL a cute gift back from LA!
Jinxy has some huge reccs for Sydney Film Festival, and will be seeing Our Austin Butler IRL. SPEAKING OF: We simply need to discuss THE Baz Lurhmann TikTok video.
Then, a debrief on season 3 of Hacks, season 2 of Loot and Palm Royale. RT does NOT equal endorsement, turns out. Justice for Ricky Martin, though.
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Kate's review of ‘Menus-Plaisirs’ and ‘La Cocina’ in The MonthlyCan Slowness Save Us?The Baz Lurhmann TikTok videoBaz @ Harry StylesEveryone in This TV Show Should Be Smoking
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Kate's 10 tips for films at SFF (that are not sold out at the time of recording) are: Dahomey, A Different Man, Eephus, Grand Tour, Menu Plaisirs–Trois Gros, the Substance, Problemista, Sasquatch Sunset, The Substance, PepeMelbourne Out Loud: life through the lens of Rennie Ellis, on at State Library Victoria til JanuaryEvery Outfit is coming to Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Brisbane, Auckland in DecemberBrodie's two new fave true crime pods: Once Upon a Time in Nashville + Trial By Water Tap is Fine! newsletter by Khushbu ShahReading Room gallery + Back Room shop on High St in Northcote
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Kate's back from Cannes! She and BL catch up on the last films of the festival and her journey in the Tom Crui-niverse. BL went to see Nan Goldin's The Ballad of Sexual Dependency in Ballarat and is very excited to tell you about the two special editions of the mX she guest-edited for RISING this year!
This week, Brodie is joined by Lucia Aniello for a chat about Hacks, a recent visit to Schwartz and Sandy's, the Tom Cruise Coconut Cake and some incredible recommendations. Lucia is the co-creator, -writer, -producer, -director and showrunner of Hacks, along with Paul W. Downs and Jen Statsky. She was a director on Broad City and the Netflix reboot of The Babysitters Club (vale queen!!!!!), and she and Paul co-wrote and -directed the film Rough Night and the webseries Time-Traveling Bong, which BL recommended way back in episode 8!
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An interview with Hacks' costume designerLucia and Paul on Talk EasyReal Housewives of South Boston
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Lucia recommends: Mary and George, On Writing by Stephen King, buying a pair of socks when you're visiting a new placeBrodie recommends: the fresh-squeezed OJ from Northcote IGA, Renee Gracie: Fireproof on Stan(nes), The Uncoupling by Meg Wolitzer (and the related story, ‘Mitzvah Night Is CANCELLED’ Inside the sex strike that has infuriated husbands and shaken the ultra-Orthodox world by Talia Lavin in the Cut)Kate recommends: Officine Universelle Buly bath salts, 'How 3M Discovered, Then Concealed, the Dangers of Forever Chemicals' by Sharon Lerner, the AirFly Pro Deluxe Bluetooth Transmittor.

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Also celebrating their birthdays this week are Sofia Coppola – who turned 53 on Tuesday – and her debut feature The Virgin Suicides, which came out 25 years ago. To mark two of these three occasions (guess which), Kate and Brodie go deep on the Lisbon sisters and the boys who loved them.
Even if you're seen the film a million times, it holds up to a re-watch – trust us.
We cover the Eugenides BTS cynicism, Hartnett at his prime, Trip's gay dad(s), the time Brodie met Kathleen Turner, memory's flimsy logic and the time Kate first tried Pepsi Max, the comedy Sofia never gets credit for and the image-making she's so skilled at, the boys who'll always remember and the girls who were never really theirs/there.
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“The Virgin Suicides” Still Holds the Mysteries of Adolescence by Emma Cline“They Hadn’t Heard Us Calling” by Megan AbbottWhy I’m obsessed with this dark, dreamy novel" by Dizz TateSofia Coppola’s Bedrooms by Katie McDonoughScores on Screen. Clouds Up: Air and the Soundtrack of "The Virgin Suicides" by Clare Nina NorelliJosh Hartnett on THE kissDan Levy's story of visiting the set Kiki in Interview in 2000Sofia Coppola x Tavi Gevinson in RookieTavi Gevinson on The Virgin Suicides in NPR in 2012Bill Owens book 'Suburbia'Idea LTDAir will play Moon Safari at the Sydney Opera House for VIVID
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This episode opens with a live review of the Hailey Bieber smoothie from Erewhon. Jinxy's sipping her way across LA, and fills us in on brunch at Canter's, an iconic but annoying day out with Angelyne at the Pleasure Chest, and an enviable visit to Noodle Stories. She's hit the Vanderpump Triangle in WeHo – but only to Bottega Louie, not TomTom (yet).
BL goes deep on a night with Niall Horan and a life-changing day at SPUDFEST in Trentham. Is she the spudman after all?
Then it's time for a discussion of our favourite Highsmith menacing gay, Tom Ripley, and the latest Netflix iteration of the guy who "likes" "girls", from creator/writer Steve Zaillan.
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The Garden Against Time by Olivia Laing
The American Friend (1977) by Wim Wenders
The Night Of
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Here in the Pitch by Jessica Pratt
Hacks season 3 (on Stan in Australia)
Ed Ruscha / Now Then retrospective at LACMA
Soft Services Software Update
Vegethreads Organic classic T
Archive No. 1 by Hattie Stewart (with an intro by Brodie!)

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This week, Kate and Brodie participate in their pre-scheduled catch-up time – you know how friends do that?
Kate's in LA and packed badly, watched 3 Body Problem, attempted to go to Schwartz and Sandy's, keeps seeing Cybertrucks, visited the Indigo Girls-themed bathroom at Rubyfruit and caught up on Mission Impossible on the plane. BL has to do a quick post-season recap of Vanderpump Rules, had a bit of an annoying trip to Sydney, devolves into a complaint about circus performers in hotels, watched an entire movie on free-to-air TV and experienced a very silly case of mistaken identity at France-Soir.
If you're in LA, come see Zoe's show Every Single Thing in My Whole Entire Life at UCB on Fairfax 6 May as part of Netflix is a Joke festival.
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Ingrid Goes WestKajillionaireThe First Bad Man a book club based on a novel by Miranda JulyCole Escola on StraightiolabThe Sydney airport train
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HB Achive's Poet shirtAnother Slice by Nat PaullCarrot, Fennel and Wild Rice SoupD'Arcy'Carden's podcast WikiholeViolette Bisou Balm FR in Amour Fou from Mecca Inner Studio
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This week, Kate and Brodie debrief on a bodybuilding competition (where is a delt?), Dopesick (what even is it?), Kate didn't DJ a sex party but did go to The Almighty Sometimes at MTC, Brodie tries to explain who Jerrod Carmichael is and wrote the latest Good Weekend cover story on Angourie Rice.
Then, we discuss the disgraceful new Amy Winehouse biopic Back to Black, a debrief on the massive, overwhelming and excellent Alex Garland film Civil War.
Skip from 35:08 – 55:43 for Civil War spoilers.
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Amy (2015) by Asif KapadiaMark Ronson on working with Amy WinehouseNew Yorker Critics at Large episode on Civil WarKirsten Dunst in VarietyKirsten Dunst on choosing roles with female directors Men (2022)Power of the Dog (2021)
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Hate Read, anonymous essays in Deez LinksSteve! on Apple TV+Robe 3–in-1: Clean & Finish haircareCosRX Good Morning Low-pH Gel CleanserAutumn Also playlist Get your flu and booster vaxx!!
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