The Asia Climate Finance Podcast

Joseph Jacobelli

The podcast is a journey into the multifaceted world of climate business and finance trends in Asia. Featuring experienced experts and hosted by author, analyst, and investor Joseph Jacobelli, the non-profit podcast, delves into the latest trends and challenges, empowering listeners to navigate Asia’s ever-evolving sustainability and decarbonisation landscape.

  1. 3d ago

    Ep96 Asia's Power Crisis: Can Batteries Keep Up with AI? with Mark Hutchinson, FESSIA

    Comments/ideas: ACFpod@outlook.com Asia's growing demand for electricity, driven by AI, data centres and the energy transition, is putting power grids under pressure. Could battery energy storage unlock more renewable energy, strengthen grid flexibility and deliver reliable, round-the-clock clean power? In this episode, our guest, Asia transition thought leader Mark Hutchinson explores the investment opportunities, commercial potential and regulatory changes shaping the future of battery storage across Southeast Asia. Ref: FESSIA (Future Energy Storage & System Integration Alliance): An industry alliance bringing together energy companies, policymakers and other stakeholders to advance battery storage and power system flexibility across Southeast Asia. ABOUT MARK: Mark has over 35 years of energy sector experience, including 30+ years experience in Asia. He has expertise in strategic advice, finance, M&A, contract negotiations and due diligence in the power & renewables and oil & gas sectors. Mark is Chief Strategy Officer for the Future Energy Storage and System Integration Alliance and works with the team to guide FESSIA’s strategic approach across Southeast Asia. Mark is also an independent non-executive director for a publicly listed power company in Vietnam with 1+ GW of mostly renewable generation. Mark is a trained economist with a masters in public policy from Harvard University in energy regulation. Recommendations: BloombergNEF (BNEF) battery storage research: Research on battery storage costs, project economics and deployment trendsBESS technical reading, ASEAN Centre for Energy and IEA: A report on battery storage and renewable energy integration in ASEANOther References in the Discussion Asia Climate Finance Podcast, Episode 95 with Junice Yeo: A previous discussion on clean power strategies and data centre energy demand in Southeast Asia.AI Energy Management Alliance: An industry coalition exploring flexible electricity use and grid connections for AI data centres.Asia Clean Energy Coalition (ACEC): An initiative connecting corporate renewable energy buyers, suppliers and financiers to accelerate clean energy procurement in Asia.Long Duration Energy Storage Council: A global organisation advancing the development and commercial deployment of long-duration energy storage.Asia Climate Finance Podcast, Episode 77 with Mike Thomas: A previous discussion of solar-plus-battery economics and the Philippines' energy transition.HOST, PRODUCTION, ARTWORK: Joseph Jacobelli  |  MUSIC: Ep76 onward excerpts from Vivaldi’s La Follia, played by Luca Jacobelli.

    Ep96 Asia's Power Crisis: Can Batteries Keep Up with AI? with Mark Hutchinson, FESSIA
  2. Oct 31

    Ep95 The Hidden Energy Cost of AI in Southeast Asia with Junice Yeo, Eco-Business

    Comments/ideas: ACFpod@outlook.com AI is booming across Southeast Asia. But where will all the electricity come from, and can the region meet growing demand without locking itself into fossil fuels? In this episode, Junice Yeo, Managing Partner at Eco-Business, explores the hidden energy costs of AI and the challenges facing Asia's clean energy transition. She discusses the risks of greenwashing, the future of cross-border power grids in ASEAN, and the growing role of Chinese clean technology in the region. She also looks at how investment, better ESG rules and fairer energy pricing can help drive the shift to cleaner power. What will it take for Southeast Asia to power its AI boom sustainably? Listen for fresh insights and practical lessons for investors, climate finance professionals, business leaders and policy makers. REFERENCES: Eco-Business ABOUT JUNICE: Junice Yeo is Managing Partner at Eco-Business, where she leads research, advisory and training engagements with corporate and government clients across Asia Pacific on ESG disclosure, climate risk, carbon markets and sustainable finance. She also oversees Eco-Business’s engagements in Hong Kong and Mainland China. With over 20 years of experience across China and Southeast Asia, Junice has worked extensively with financial institutions, corporates and policymakers on emerging market developments in areas including the carbon markets and nature risks. She frequently delivers executive and board-level briefings on sustainable finance, decarbonisation and the evolving role of Asia in the global climate transition. Prior to joining Eco-Business, she established the Southeast Asia practice of UK-based ESG consultancy Corporate Citizenship, advising listed companies and multinationals on ESG strategy and reporting. Earlier in her career, she held trade and investment roles with the Embassy of Switzerland and the Singapore Tourism Board, and led brand and communications at Danone in Shanghai and the Sino-Singapore Tianjin Eco-City project — one of China’s earliest large-scale urban sustainability developments. Junice holds the CFA Institute Certificate in ESG Investing and the IFRS Foundation’s FSA Credential. She also serves as an external advisory member to the Airbus Executive Committee. RECOMENDATIONS: Intelligence Squared: award-winning podcast and debate platform that brings together leading experts, policymakers and public thinkers to explore the most important issues shaping the world today. Listen on Intelligence Squared.China's Quest for 'Infinite' Energy: A Bloomberg Originals documentary exploring China's renewable energy expansion and the challenges of meeting rising electricity demand. Watch on YouTube.Prisoners of Geography: A book by Tim Marshall examining how geography shapes global politics and the strategic choices of nations. Simon & Schuster, official publisher page.HOST, PRODUCTION, ARTWORK: Joseph Jacobelli  |  MUSIC: Ep76 onward excerpts from Vivaldi’s La Follia, played by Luca Jacobelli.

    Ep95 The Hidden Energy Cost of AI in Southeast Asia with Junice Yeo, Eco-Business
  3. Oct 13

    Ep94 Why Coal Contracts Block Asia's Green Transition with Elrika Hamdi & Ernst Kuneman, Agora

    Comments/ideas: ACFpod@outlook.com We explore why simply shutting down coal plants is not a realistic fix for South and Southeast Asia. Elrika Hamdi and Ernst Kuneman from Agora Energiewende explain how reforming rigid Power Purchase Agreements (PPAs) can transform legacy coal assets into flexible backup for renewable energy. Professionals in climate finance and energy policy will discover actionable strategies to renegotiate these contracts and unlock grid capacity without destabilising the market. Join us to understand how transition finance can practically fund this crucial shift from baseload coal to clean, resilient power systems.  Ref.: Reforming power purchase agreements for flexible coal power ABOUT ELRIKA: Elrika Hamdi is Southeast Asia Director at Agora Think Tanks, leading regional energy transition strategy. She is an expert in energy policy and finance with nearly 20 years of experience as a researcher, consultant, advisor, and entrepreneur, with deep knowledge of Indonesia’s energy landscape and Southeast Asia’s power markets. She previously served as Deputy Head of the Secretariat for Indonesia’s Just Energy Transition Partnership, leading its Finance and Policy Working Groups and overseeing funding design, implementation, and monitoring. Her career spans IEEFA and advisory roles for UNEP, UNDP, ADB, AFD, USAID, and GIZ, alongside hands‑on work in rural electrification, renewable start‑ups, and advising governments and SOEs on energy finance. ABOUT ERNST: Ernst is a Senior Associate Power System Transformation for Southeast Asia. He drives analytical and strategic initiatives on renewable energy investment, utility business model innovation and power system reform to enable greater integration of renewables. Based in Bangkok, he works closely with national and regional stakeholders to identify market and policy reform opportunities to accelerate the shift towards renewables-based electricity systems.Prior to joining Agora in 2022, Ernst worked at the think tank and consultancy adelphi, where he focussed on electricity markets and carbon pricing in Europe and the Asia-Pacific. He began his career at the Clingendael Institute in The Hague and the International Energy Agency in Paris. Ernst holds a Master’s in International Energy from Sciences Po Paris and an MSc in International Relations from the University of Amsterdam. Documents & Reports Reforming power purchase agreements for flexible coal power: The flagship Agora Energiewende report outlining the 'Repurpose, Reserve, and Retire' framework for transitioning coal fleets in South and Southeast Asia.  Organisations & Initiatives Agora Energiewende: An international energy transition think tank developing scientifically sound solutions for flexible, resilient, and secure power systems.  ADB Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM): The Asian Development Bank's financing model, discussed in relation to the complex early retirement framework of Indonesia's Cirebon-1 coal plant.  Guest Recommendations Changing Planet: A BBC documentary series recommended by Elrika Hamdi. It monitors the impacts of climate change on the Earth's most vulnerable ecosystems over seven years, serving as a powerful reminder of the long-term stakes of our climate actions.  HOST, PRODUCTION, ARTWORK: Joseph Jacobelli  |  MUSIC: Ep76 onward excerpts from Vivaldi’s La Follia, played by Luca Jacobelli.

    Ep94 Why Coal Contracts Block Asia's Green Transition with Elrika Hamdi & Ernst Kuneman, Agora
  4. Sep 30

    Ep93 Making Asia's Climate Transition Bankable with Yvonne Huang, Earth & Life Symbio

    Comments/ideas: ACFpod@outlook.com Asia has no shortage of climate ambition. What it still struggles with is turning that ambition into capital. Over the past eight years, Yvonne Huang of Earth & Life Symbio has watched this gap play out, and she's less interested in the ESG deck presented in the boardroom than in what actually changes on the factory floor on Monday morning. In this conversation she explains why green steel is no longer a technology question but a question of who will buy it and at what price, and why reaching net zero means little if we lose clean oceans and healthy soil along the way. For anyone working to make Asia's transition bankable, it's a refreshingly practical listen. Ref.: Earth & Life Symbio (E&L); Green electricity direct connection in China’s steel industry—Policies, economics, and stakeholder incentives; Powering Taiwan’s Future: Financing Energy Sovereignty in the AI Economy ABOUT YVONNE: Yvonne Huang is the Strategy Director & Co-Founder of Earth & Life Symbio (E&L). A seasoned board director, Yvonne sits on multiple charity boards from Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore. Formerly with CapitaLand, she later became the Lead Representative of GRESB (Global Real Estate Sustainability Benchmark) in Asia, where she champions the integration of ESG principles across infrastructure and real estate portfolios. Yvonne brings a wealth of multi-sectors, strategic insights and governance expertise to the sustainable investment landscape. RECOMENDATIONS: Global Real Estate Sustainability Benchmark (GRESB): An investor-led organisation providing standardized sustainability performance scorecards for real estate and infrastructure portfolios worldwide. The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist: A Netflix documentary exploring artificial general intelligence (AGI), its societal risks, and the urgent need for responsible technology governance. Kunming-Montreal Global Biodiversity Framework: A historic landmark agreement signed by global governments establishing actionable targets to halt and reverse nature loss by 2030. HOST, PRODUCTION, ARTWORK: Joseph Jacobelli  |  MUSIC: Ep76 onward excerpts from Vivaldi’s La Follia, played by Luca Jacobelli.

    Ep93 Making Asia's Climate Transition Bankable with Yvonne Huang, Earth & Life Symbio
  5. Sep 16

    Ep92 Green Swans: Climate Risk and Financial Stability with Frederic Samama, S&P Global

    Comments/ideas: ACFpod@outlook.com Why do we act on almost every crisis except climate change? In this episode, Frederic Samama, pioneer of the first low-carbon indices and co-author of the BIS Green Swan report, unpacks the psychology and finance behind our inaction. He walks through real cases, from decarbonising pension portfolios and loyalty shares that reward patient capital, to a green bond fund that crowded private money into emerging market infrastructure with the IFC and World Bank. For anyone working in climate finance, sustainable investment, or green infrastructure across Asia and beyond, this is a sharp, practical look at why financial innovation, not just reporting, is what moves capital where it's needed. Books and titles referenced: The Enigma of Climate Inaction (Frédéric Samama): The guest's own book, which explores why humanity persists with economic and mental models that have become unfit despite mounting evidence they need to change.The Green Swan: Central Banking and Financial Stability in the Age of Climate Change (Bolton, Despres, Pereira da Silva, Samama, Svartzman, BIS, 2020): The report that reframed climate change as a systemic threat to financial stability rather than a reputational issue, and gave central banking the term "green swan". Free to download.Sovereign Wealth Funds and Long-Term Investing (edited by Patrick Bolton, Frédéric Samama and Joseph Stiglitz): The volume Samama co-edited with Stiglitz and Bolton, examining how long-horizon state investors can support sustainable development and financial stability.ABOUT FREDERIC: Frédéric Samama is a Managing Director in the Chief Client Office at S&P Global, covering large European asset managers. He began at J.P. Morgan, then led Corporate Equity Derivatives at Crédit Agricole CIB, where he built the first international leveraged employee share purchase programme. At Amundi he helped establish its leadership in green finance, launching the first mainstream low-carbon equity indices and one of the earliest large-scale green bond funds for emerging market infrastructure. He co-launched the first global investor coalition on portfolio decarbonisation, representing the sector at COP21, and later developed the first IPCC-aligned equity benchmarks at S&P Global. He co-authored The Green Swan and wrote The Enigma of Climate Inaction. Environmental Finance named him its 2026 Personality of the Year. He holds a PhD in Economics from Paris Dauphine–PSL and an MPhil in Philosophy from Panthéon-Sorbonne.  Listener recommendations Images of Earth from space: Samama recommends any photograph of the planet taken from space, echoing the "overview effect" astronauts describe, a jolt of perspective that reveals the Earth's beauty, fragility and uniqueness.Documentaries on the social lives of animals (safari viewing): Samama recommends any book or film about how animals live socially, inspired by his own African safari. The host suggests Sir David Attenborough's work as a natural starting point.HOST, PRODUCTION, ARTWORK: Joseph Jacobelli  |  MUSIC: Ep76 onward excerpts from Vivaldi’s La Follia, played by Luca Jacobelli.

    Ep92 Green Swans: Climate Risk and Financial Stability with Frederic Samama, S&P Global
  6. Sep 4

    Ep91 Green Buildings in Asia: Banks, Insurers Decide with Armelle Le Bihan, GBCE

    Comments/ideas: ACFpod@outlook.com Sustainable construction costs under 1% more to build. So why are developers and investors still hesitating? Green building pioneer Armelle Le Bihan joins the show to explain how climate resilience is reshaping property development and bankability across Thailand, Vietnam and Mongolia. That includes a $570 million Green Climate Fund and Asian Development Bank project in Ulaanbaatar. She explains why banks and insurers, not developers, are now driving the shift, and why unprotected assets are becoming uninsurable. She also breaks down what Thailand's Climate Change Act, expected to take effect in 2027, means for anyone financing, building or insuring property in the region. Essential listening for climate finance professionals, lenders, developers and insurers working across Asia's property market. ABOUT ARMELLE. Armelle Le Bihan, is the founder and CEO of Green Building Consulting & Engineering, an award-winning Bangkok-based consultancy conceiving high-performance buildings that improve people's well-being while preserving the planet. An engineer by training specialised in Environmentally Sustainable Design, she saw in green buildings a lever to fight climate change in an industry responsible for 32% of global energy demand and 34% of energy-related carbon emissions. GBCE was founded in 2014 to shift the industry toward a low-carbon model: raising awareness on climate action through public speaking, building capacity and ecosystems that embed sustainability in businesses, and advising project teams and building owners across Asia and Europe on new and existing buildings, from hotels and hospitals to airports and an Olympic stadium. Armelle and GBCE have received multiple awards, including GGEF's Eco Star of Asia, RICS Young Achiever, and BNOW Eco Entrepreneur of the Year, and joined the Eco-Business A-List and Gen T. Leader of Tomorrow List. RECOMENDATIONS: Kiss the Ground: A Netflix documentary about regenerative agriculture, showing how restoring soil health could help stabilise the climate. World Without End: A graphic novel written by Jean-Marc Jancovici, with art by Christophe Blain, that frames the climate crisis as an energy problem before a carbon one. HOST, PRODUCTION, ARTWORK: Joseph Jacobelli  |  MUSIC: Ep76 onward excerpts from Vivaldi’s La Follia, played by Luca Jacobelli.

    Ep91 Green Buildings in Asia: Banks, Insurers Decide with Armelle Le Bihan, GBCE
  7. Aug 5

    Ep90 Renewable Energy Works, So Why Isn't Asia Doing It? with Chan Yau Chong, Climate Finance Asia

    Comments/ideas: ACFpod@outlook.com Chan Yau Chong, leading thought-leader and co-founder of Climate Finance Asia, reveals why Hong Kong's solar revolution hasn't scaled and exposes the uncomfortable truth about Asian investors' grip on coal. We unpack the real barriers to Asia's energy transition: from fiduciary duty rhetoric masking climate inaction to the policy gaps holding back coal phase-out across Indonesia, Bangladesh, and Pakistan. Discover how climate finance can accelerate the shift from coal to renewables when institutions finally align investment with genuine impact. REF.: Climate Finance Asia insights and reports.  ABOUT CHAN YAU: Chan Yau co-founded the CarbonCare Innolab (CCIL) in 2014 and is now the Board Advisor. Prior to overseeing CCIL, he served in the Hong Kong Government. He became an Executive Director of Oxfam Hong Kong and a member of the Board of Directors of Oxfam International. Thereafter, he joined the University of Hong Kong as the Director of Student Development for its Centre for Development and Resources for Students. He is the ex-President of the Hong Kong Blind Union and was a member of the Education and Publicity Subcommittee of the Council for Sustainable Development, an advisory committee to the Hong Kong SAR Government on sustainability issues. He was appointed Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (MBE) in 1995 for his outstanding service to the Hong Kong civil society and received the Ten Outstanding Young Persons Award in 1991. He was also named one of the “Leaders of 2011” by Sing Tao Publishing and an Honorary Fellow by the University of Hong Kong. Recomendations: [Policy Brief May 2026] Accelerating Coal-Fired Power Plant Retirement in Indonesia: From Policy Commitment to Executable Pathways:  A Climate Finance Asia policy brief examining Indonesia's pathway to retiring coal-fired power plants, bridging the gap between government commitments and practical, financially feasible transition strategies.  HOST, PRODUCTION, ARTWORK: Joseph Jacobelli  |  MUSIC: Ep76 onward excerpts from Vivaldi’s La Follia, played by Luca Jacobelli.

    Ep90 Renewable Energy Works, So Why Isn't Asia Doing It? with Chan Yau Chong, Climate Finance Asia
  8. Jul 20

    Ep89 India's Net Zero: Commercial Reality or Clever PR? with Arun Kumar, Asia Research and Engagement

    Comments/ideas: ACFpod@outlook.com Is India's net zero push real, or just clever PR? Arun Kumar of Asia Research and Engagement joins the podcast to explain why the greenwashing era is ending and why decarbonisation now wins on cost, not sentiment. We dig into the hard-to-abate sectors, green steel and cement, alongside power, coal, renewables, carbon markets, corporate PPAs and how Indian banks are pricing climate transition risk. Essential listening for anyone in climate finance, energy transition and sustainable investment across India and the wider Asia Pacific. Ref.: Asia Research and Engagement Group, ARE's Asia Transition Platform ABOUT ARUN: Arun Kumar is a Strategic Advisor at Asia Research and Engagement (ARE), a Singapore-headquartered organisation whose collaborative platform connects institutional investors with large listed companies to accelerate the energy transition. His focus spans the highest market-cap companies in hard-to-abate sectors, Power, Cement, Steel and Automobiles, plus Banks and financial institutions. A recognised expert in India's power sector with over 30 years of experience, Arun brings deep expertise across power trading, management consulting and equity research. He has held senior positions at PTC India, HSBC, KPMG and CRISIL, advising investors, policymakers, regulators and corporates on critical aspects of the energy sector. His work spans Asia, the US, Europe and India. Arun holds a Master's in Economics from the Delhi School of Economics and an MBA from IMI Delhi, plus an advanced certification in Cloud Computing, Data Analytics and Blockchain from IIT Madras. Recommendations: Climate Capitalism by Akshat Rathi: A Bloomberg journalist's ground-level account of how clean technologies, from China's electric cars and batteries to solar, wind and green steel, are becoming commercially viable and profitable.  https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/akshat-rathi/climate-capitalism/9781529329957/ Value(s): Building a Better World for All by Mark Carney: The former Bank of England governor and current Canadian Prime Minister argues that finance and markets must be steered by human values rather than price alone.  https://books.google.com/books/about/Value_s.html?id=Jz6XzQEACAAJHOST, PRODUCTION, ARTWORK: Joseph Jacobelli  |  MUSIC: Ep76 onward excerpts from Vivaldi’s La Follia, played by Luca Jacobelli.

    Ep89 India's Net Zero: Commercial Reality or Clever PR? with Arun Kumar, Asia Research and Engagement

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The podcast is a journey into the multifaceted world of climate business and finance trends in Asia. Featuring experienced experts and hosted by author, analyst, and investor Joseph Jacobelli, the non-profit podcast, delves into the latest trends and challenges, empowering listeners to navigate Asia’s ever-evolving sustainability and decarbonisation landscape.

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