Conversational Counseling

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Conversational Counseling is where discipleship and counseling meet. Each season we help you apply biblical truths to your everyday life and to the lives of those around you. After decades of having these conversations in the counseling room and side by side over coffee with friends, we really believe that every single thing we’ve learned is useful within family, with your friends, at your work, with your neighbors and at your church. For free visuals and discussion questions for this podcast, sign up at knownministries.org. Known Ministries is Alex Kocher and Brenda Payne.

  1. 13h ago

    S14 Ep. 5 / Protective or Controlling?: Spotting the Difference Before It’s Too Late with Sydney Millage

    ⁠>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! ⁠ Why are we seeing such increasing levels of control, coercion, and abuse in dating relationships… even experienced by women in the Church?  In America, one out of every four women will have experienced abuse in a relationship (this is self-reported and does not include coercion and control). Many women find themselves in abusive or controlling relationships, wishing they had known what to look for to avoid the place where they are now. For years, people (us included back in the day) mistaught authority and ideas of submission. Even if it wasn’t ill-intentioned, it did not reflect the whole counsel of God’s word and the fruit has not been Christlike.  In this conversation, our guest Sydney Millage shares tools and specific markers for women to look for in dating relationships to look for patterns of abuse, coercive control, or unsafe behaviors. This helps women identify these patterns before marriage, children, or finances make decisions to leave even more difficult.  We talk about measures for determining if someone is a normal growing sinner and simply immature in some areas or if they are actually a dangerous person. So often, Sydney points out, the measure of a man is how he responds when he is told “no."  In walking with women through these difficult conversations, it’s important to honor their agency and let them name what they are experiencing. And if a woman reaches the conclusion that she needs to leave, Sydney walks through the risk of leaving and the need for a safety plan.  In a healthy relationship, there shouldn’t be fear but rather flourishing.  Resources: More from Sydney! Clarity in Action Ministries Biblical Victim Care Course  37 Ways To Be Taken Captive: Warning Signs and Prevention for Destructive Relationships by Sydney Millage The Gift of Fear: And Other Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence by Gavin de Becker Season 14 of Conversational Counseling on “Key Resources.” To sign up for free visuals and discussion questions for this season, click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This podcast is made possible by engineer and producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Conversational Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

    S14 Ep. 5 / Protective or Controlling?: Spotting the Difference Before It’s Too Late with Sydney Millage

  2. Oct 27

    S14 Ep. 4 / "Submitting" to Abuse?: What the Church Needs to Hear with Darby Strickland

    ⁠>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! ⁠ Is the Church actually harming instead of helping victims of abuse?  It’s difficult to learn when we’re afraid, and many churches are afraid to navigate complex situations involving abuse. Leaders might fear pushing a couple towards separation or divorce, especially when children are involved. They can feel overwhelmed and unsure how to verify a narrative, so they do nothing.  Our guest Darby Strickland is a faculty member and counselor at CCEF (Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation). She’s seen how the Church can often (and unintentionally) make it easy for abusers to hide. Abusers can manipulate the beautiful parts of Christianity — like grace and forgiveness — to serve themselves.  Darby believes it’s time to have conversations about uncomfortable situations. Jesus came to free the oppressed and vulnerable, and we as His people have the opportunity to surround victims with care and comfort.  She also knows that each situation is different. We need to focus on tending and shepherding one person at a time, rather than worrying about setting a precedent. And she reminds us that even when God’s people are not faithful, He still is. Resources: More from Darby! Darby’s Books + Projects Season 14 of Conversational Counseling on “Key Resources.” To sign up for free visuals and discussion questions for this season, click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This podcast is made possible by engineer and producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Conversational Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

    S14 Ep. 4 / "Submitting" to Abuse?: What the Church Needs to Hear with Darby Strickland

  3. Oct 20

    S14 Ep. 3 / Is My Church Actually Safe? with Chris Moles

    ⁠>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! ⁠ In the Church, we may not often recognize physical manifestations of abuse out in the public. But that doesn’t mean abuse isn’t happening among the people of our congregations or even within the four walls of the church building. In this episode, we’re joined by Chris Moles of PeaceWorks, who is a pastor, speaker and biblical counselor. Chris breaks down the root causes of abuse — and why abuse doesn’t always look like physical violence. He explores different expressions of abuse and where previous biblical counseling movements have shifted blame to substance abuse, stress, or even victims. As Christians, Chris reminds us, we shouldn’t rely only on the legal code to guide our definitions of abuse. We should explore how God tells us to treat His image bearers. We also emphasize that men can be safe. Trauma, addiction, neurodiversity and other factors can contribute to abuse, but they don’t cause it. And that should bring hope! Jesus died for the vulnerable and the perpetrators. He died to save everyone from their sinful hearts!  It’s the job of the Church and people of faith to advocate for the weak and vulnerable and not to excuse behaviors that dismiss agency, safety and security. Resources: More from Chris and PeaceWorks! When Home Hurts: A Guide for Responding Wisely to Domestic Abuse in Your Church by Jeremy Pierre and Greg Wilson God’s Protection of Women: When Abuse is Worse Than Divorce by Herb Vander Lugt Season 14 of Conversational Counseling on “Key Resources.” To sign up for free visuals and discussion questions for this season, click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This podcast is made possible by engineer and producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Conversational Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

    S14 Ep. 3 / Is My Church Actually Safe? with Chris Moles

  4. Oct 13

    S14 Ep. 2 / Finding Peace When Your Child Doesn’t Change with Dawn Ward

    ⁠>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! ⁠ What do you do when the people you love most in your life are struggling with addiction? This is the question Dawn Ward navigated every day for two decades as members of her immediate family faced addiction. She’s wondered, “Is there hope for my child?” She’s heard some programs say, “Once an addict, always an addict.” She’s encountered grief upon grief upon grief.  But she’s also encountered God’s provision and wisdom. She shares with Alex and Brenda how she’s learned to ask: “Lord, show me how and when to step back.” Dawn explains what it means to parent from a distance, and she encourages parents to give themselves permission to be human and share the weight with God and others. Throughout this episode, Dawn reminds us that God never gives up on us or the ones we love who are walking in addiction or destructive behavior. In every season, His grace and His faithfulness are there. Resources: More from Dawn!Facebook Group: Christian Moms of Addicted ChildrenFree Lament ClassLetting Go: Rugged Love for Wayward Souls by Dave Harvey and Paul Gilbert Season 14 of Conversational Counseling on “Key Resources.” To sign up for free visuals and discussion questions for this season, click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This podcast is made possible by engineer and producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Conversational Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

    S14 Ep. 2 / Finding Peace When Your Child Doesn’t Change with Dawn Ward

  5. Oct 6

    S14 Ep. 1 / How to Leave an Abusive Marriage and Stay a Christian with Leslie Vernick

    ⁠>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! ⁠ Is divorce ever an option? What’s the difference between a disappointing marriage and a destructive one? Does the Church ever harm rather than help vulnerable women in marriages? We break down all of these topics with Leslie Vernick in this episode of Conversational Counseling. Leslie has experienced abuse and volatile relationships in her own life. She was taught to forgive, forget, and get along, even if someone was a destructive influence in her life. Now she’s advocating for and equipping women in destructive marriages to create biblical boundaries, pursue safety, and steward their one life well. Leslie has been married for decades, and she makes it clear that she loves and supports marriage. But she also recognizes some faith circles can elevate the institution over the physical, emotional, and spiritual growth and safety of the people in a marriage. She advocates for churches and church leadership to become trauma-informed and to learn how to advocate well for every single image bearer. Resources: More from Leslie What Healthy Relationships are Really Made Of by Leslie Vernick Season 14 of Conversational Counseling on “Key Resources.” To sign up for free visuals and discussion questions for this season, click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This podcast is made possible by engineer and producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Conversational Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

    S14 Ep. 1 / How to Leave an Abusive Marriage and Stay a Christian with Leslie Vernick

  6. Aug 6 ·  Bonus

    S13 Ep. 5 Tool / How to Prevent Growing Apart

    ⁠>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! ⁠ How do you create a culture of flourishing in your marriage when you both bring different stories, preferences and goals? No matter how similar to our partner we think we are before marriage, there are often big differences in vision and preferences for the present and the future. Building upon the tools from the Gottman Institute, Alex discusses questions and strategies to help you explore your individual goals, navigate differences in opinion and preference and build shared meaning and purpose with your spouse. Resources: The Gottman Institute Season 13 Episode 5 Tool: Creating Shared Meaning and Purpose Season 13 of Conversational Counseling on “Marriage.” To sign up for free visuals and discussion questions for this season, click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This podcast is made possible by engineer and producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Conversational Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

    S13 Ep. 5 Tool / How to Prevent Growing Apart

  7. Aug 4

    S13 Ep. 5 / Living for Heaven when Marriage is Hard

    >> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! ⁠ Every day, we feel the weight of the brokenness in our world. Brokenness that strains our relationships. It can be hard for us to believe the best days are ahead. That one day what’s broken will be made whole — that our broken stories, hearts and relationships will be made whole. The Grand Narrative reminds us that our lives now are a “trailer” for a greater story. It shows us that our marriages are designed to bring us delight and flourishing, to point us to the oneness we will experience with the Lord and the saints in the new heavens and the new earth. The sweetness we experience in this life is only a shadow of the beauty we will one day experience. It’s these pieces of heaven we see, in spite of the brokenness, that help us look forward with hope. Season 13 of Conversational Counseling on “Marriage.” To sign up for free visuals and discussion questions for this season, click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This podcast is made possible by engineer and producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Conversational Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

    S13 Ep. 5 / Living for Heaven when Marriage is Hard

  8. Jul 30 ·  Bonus

    S13 Ep. 4 Tool / How to Rebuild Trust in Marriage

    ⁠>> Click HERE to get free visuals, handouts and discussion questions for Conversational Counseling sent straight to your email! ⁠ Brokenness and ruptures in relationships are inevitable.  We live in a world where sin has distorted our relationships. But because Jesus conquered sin and death, brokenness isn’t the end of God’s Grand Narrative and doesn’t have to define our marriage stories. When our words or actions cause a rift in relationships, we need to make a good repair. But these repairs aren’t always easy. Sometimes repairs take time. And sometimes, even when repairs are made, restoration isn’t possible right away — or at all. Alex shares why making a good repair is vital for relationships and how you can navigate conflict resolution with your spouse.  Resources: Season 13 Episode 4 Tool: Redemption: Making a Good Repair Season 13 of Conversational Counseling on “Marriage.” To sign up for free visuals and discussion questions for this season, click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Our theme music is by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠As Isaac⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This podcast is made possible by engineer and producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shane Selby⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, executive producer ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meleah Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠generous donors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Conversational Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alex Kocher⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Brenda Payne.

    S13 Ep. 4 Tool / How to Rebuild Trust in Marriage
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Conversational Counseling is where discipleship and counseling meet. Each season we help you apply biblical truths to your everyday life and to the lives of those around you. After decades of having these conversations in the counseling room and side by side over coffee with friends, we really believe that every single thing we’ve learned is useful within family, with your friends, at your work, with your neighbors and at your church. For free visuals and discussion questions for this podcast, sign up at knownministries.org. Known Ministries is Alex Kocher and Brenda Payne.

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  • Creator
    Known Ministries
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    107
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Known Ministries
  • Show Website
    Conversational Counseling

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