Courage to Quit Podcast

Greg Smyth

Telling stories of major career transitions

  1. 06/10/2022

    #13 - Pivot 2.5 (Engr - Consulting - Tech) with Ellie Albadvi

    Today on the podcast, I speak with a fellow Canadian engineer Ellie Albadvi who studied chemical engineering and worked as a process engineer after graduation. Then, she wanted to be more involved in the overall vision and how it connects to the financials, so she pivoted into business development in engineering. However, she realized that the engineering company was not for her, so she made a big pivot by moving to management consulting. After two and a half years, she decided to pivot into tech, specifically business operations, because it was very close to the kind of work that she would do in management consulting. And in the whole interim, she has been trying to start something on the side for herself because of all the pivots she went through. She wants to help other people get through their career pivots as well. Topics covered: 01:06 Ellie’s story about her career pivots 05:05 People are much more helpful than we think 11:03 How Ellie networked and built connections 13:57 Career pivot challenges 16:10 Be patient when you’re in between jobs 20:30 The best investment you can make is having a career coach 24:08 Curiosity leads to opportunities 33:52 Don’t be afraid to bring your skills into your new job 35:33 How to effectively communicate your life story and the value that you can bring to the company through Storytelling 40:12 Keep a career log of every little win or learning 43:26 Money, impact, and self-expression 50:40 Vulnerability is not a weakness 57:33 How to be more visible on LinkedIn 1:00:35 Ellie’s career-switching advice: Think about how your career pivot is going to impact your life Links and Resources: Connect with Ellie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elliealbadvi/ Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans (book): https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Your-Life-Well-Lived-Joyful/dp/1101875321 The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron (book) https://www.amazon.com/Artists-Way-25th-Anniversary/dp/0143129252

    1h 3m
  2. 05/23/2022

    #12 - ExxonMobil to Amazon with Brandon Quinn

    Intro Today my guest is Brandon Quinn, a program manager at Amazon who went through multiple pivots. He was a civil engineer by background but only stayed in this field for the first couple of years as he wanted to get more into a business-focused role. His first pivot happened only a year and a half after graduation when he started at ExxonMobil's Global Projects Company. He had a couple of roles at ExxonMobil that gave him the engineering and project management introduction. Then, he went back to Washington, DC and took another pivot as a consultant for the Deloitte Advisory Group. After that, he took a big pivot when he moved to Amazon and is currently working in program management for talent acquisition. He is now out of the engineering space but still uses the skills learned from his previous roles. Topics covered: 4:00 Brandon’s reason for his career pivot: To have more control over his work 9:03 Networking by having conversations about shared backgrounds 13:01 Random resume drops might not work 15:47 Brandon's strategy to a successful job application 18:55 Focus on the roles that you are most qualified for and are aligned with your interest 25:20 How Brandon used his engineering background to do talent acquisition 27:55 How Brandon communicated his cross functional skills during interviews 31:13 How Brandon prepared for an interview - using the STAR method, not preparing scripts, and doing mock interviews 39:30 Make a strategic career plan and see if it works or not 43:33 Brandon's career-switching advice: Pick what you value most and do not be afraid to do that

    49 min
  3. 05/16/2022

    #11 - Educator to Global Consultant with Susan Murray

    Resources: Book a call: https://calendly.com/gregfsmyth/new-connections-2 Courage to Quit Blueprint: https://blueprint.gregfsmyth.com/free Profiles: Susan's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-susan-e-murray-72858312/ Greg's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/gregoryfsmyth Episode Summary In this episode, I chat with Susan Murray who has made a big career transition from working in the educational system to building an independent consulting firm. She went from being a teacher to a principal, district personnel, and senior education leader over her 25 years in Education. The big pivot happened to her in 2012 when she did not get a job but used that as a learning point to set herself on a different path - moving to business and leadership. Topics covered: 01:27 Susan’s career transition story 04:05 Susan's catalyzing moment - moving away from the education system 09:11 How Susan managed the vulnerable stages alone 15:58 Being a professor, consultant, coach, and strategic advisor 18:27 Making a difference in people’s lives through leadership 21:50 Consulting is more than just giving advice 26:45 How to find your WHY - your reason/s behind wanting a career-change 28:30 How to build trust with new colleagues 39:01 Susan’s career-switching advice: Start with a good strategic plan. 44:38 Be ready to put up with microaggressions Embrace uncertainty and take bold steps when making big changes The vulnerabilities and the willingness to step away from comfort, how often have we seen that? Step out of your comfort zone. [Take] bold steps. Leaning in. Until you jump off that ledge and realize that you are not alone - but you are - there will be a lot of fear, uncertainty, empty hotel rooms, and alone time that you have to learn to figure out and use wisely. So in that depth of alone-ness, of solo time, is when you figure yourself out. Understand WHY you want a career change Until you can truly own it and address the whys of the change or the pivots that you are looking at, get beyond “not getting the job”. Get beyond more money or less money, or step away from the need to travel, to be, or do different things. There is a deeper why. There is a sense of freedom and ownership of something for you or for whoever it is, that is deeper than just the fact that you did not get a job. Start with a good strategic plan when changing careers Do it. Go for it. [Take] bold steps. Plan for them. Nothing happens without a plan. We have lots of dreams. We have lots of things that we see ourselves doing. But unless we have a good strategic plan behind us, that vision will never become a reality. Learning is key, but trying is key too. Have your ducks in a row. If you are leaving Education after 20 years, there are some considerations you need to make… What does your pension look like? What does financial stability look like? What risks are you willing to take professionally, financially, and even personally, within your own family? Can they handle you being away for months at a time? …those sorts of things that require a notebook, that require you to sit down and write them down right so that you are able to make wise moves.

    56 min
  4. 05/12/2022

    #10 - Subsea installations to Smart Thermostats with Andrew Goodridge

    Links: Andrew's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewgoodridgenl Greg's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/gregoryfsmyth Courage to Quit Blueprint: https://blueprint.gregfsmyth.com/free Book a call: https://calendly.com/gregfsmyth/new-connections-2 Intro: Andrew Goodridge, a mechanical engineer from my hometown in St. John’s, shares his career transition story from being a Project Manager with TechnipFMC, a global oil and gas company, to a Product Manager with Mysa, a smart thermostat company. He was one of the early participants in my Career Pivot Program, which helped him land a position just a few weeks after finishing the course. Topics covered: 01:10 Andrew’s main reason for making a career change 06:34 Networking might be easier than you think 11:40 Pre-interview challenges 13:14 How Andrew prepared for an interview 17:30 How Andrew showcased his experiences on his resume 21:47 How Andrew navigated his first 3 months at the new job - getting to know his colleagues, setting up one-on-ones, and making use of his past experiences 26:06 Andrew’s career-switching advice 29:20 If you’re mentally prepared for a career shift, then just commit to it. How Andrew showcased his expertise on his resume: I weeded out all the fluff in my resume and really focused on projects that I could showcase and had an impact on, whether it was financial, or just the sheer volume of responsibility. Once I did that, I could tell that my resume really highlighted my skills. How Andrew navigated his first 3 months at the new job: The first month was pretty overwhelming, not from a sense of pressure from the company or any names, but it was much like taking your time and getting up to speed. You need to start slowly so then you can run later. But regardless of that, it was still pretty overwhelming. It was a new industry. New role. New language. New people. I wanted to meet as many people as I could to get past that awkward stage. So for the first month, I'd probably set up two to three one-on-ones with anyone in the company that was willing to chat with me. After that, I finally started to get to know people. One of the common messages I got from the team, which was encouraging, was to take my past experiences and use them there. Do not get discouraged easily: I had probably three or four interviews earlier that year. It is pretty easy to go to it and think you did well and then get the old email saying, “Hey, you were not successful." It is very easy to get discouraged after that, but there will be more job opportunities, and you will probably learn something every time you go into an interview. You get a little bit better, well-practiced at it, probably know what not to say and what to focus on next time.

    33 min

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Telling stories of major career transitions