Hello Chaos

Jennifer Sutton

Every day, entrepreneurs all over the world roll out of bed and say: Hello, Chaos. And more often than not, we’re having that conversation in our own heads. It’s time to crack the dialogue wide open. Hello Chaos is a weekly podcast dedicated to entrepreneurs and founders, published every Sunday. It is another platform brought to you by OrangeWIP. It is a megaphone and round table created specifically to welcome bright, stubborn, visionary minds to a conversation founders have been craving. Here, founders have permission to vent—or be vulnerable. To bring the wildest ideas. Their greatest obstacles. And find a national sounding board for solutions. Here, we want founders show off—or allow them to speak their truth. To meet challenges head-on. To make hyper-local community connections. And share “aha!” and “oh shit” moments. Welcome to Hello Chaos. Founders, it's time to unmute yourself.

  1. 4d ago

    Ep. 210 Kashaun Cooper - Pressure Doesn't Change You. It Reveals You.

    Kashaun Cooper used to get written up at work for pushing back on every process anyone handed him. Now founders pay him to build the exact thing he used to hate. That's not a fun contradiction, that's the whole story. He didn't wake up one day and become a systems guy. He just figured out something most people never do, that hating structure and needing structure were never the same fight. Kashaun runs the Five Stages of Yes Leadership and Development Institute now, and he built it off one lesson that took him years to actually feel: discipline wasn't the problem, design was. He worked hard, stayed consistent, checked every box the books told him to check, and his results still wouldn't hold. If you've ever grinded for months and gotten nowhere or caught yourself doing the same thing you swore you'd stop doing, this one's going to land close to home. Kashaun and Jennifer get into why your business falls apart the second real pressure shows up, why nobody on your team seems to know who actually owns anything, and why burnout usually has less to do with working too hard and more to do with working without a system underneath you. Here's what stuck with us. 1️⃣ You Don't Have A Discipline Problem Kashaun worked hard for years and stayed disciplined, and his results still stayed shaky. The real shift came when he stopped grinding harder and started building a system he could run on his worst day, not just his best one. He calls it bettering your best, one specific action, done at a set time, every day, whether he feels like it or not. Keep chasing motivation instead of designing the routine and you'll stay inconsistent no matter how hard you try. 2️⃣ Pressure Doesn't Break People It Reveals Them The moment pressure hits, decision speed, ownership, and emotional stability are the first three things to crack, and they crack fast. Kashaun watched a restaurant manager who ran fine on a normal Tuesday completely unravel during a rush he knew was coming every single week. Pressure didn't create that behavior, it just showed everyone what was already sitting underneath the calm. Audit your own defaults now, before the next crisis forces your team to watch you find out in real time. 3️⃣ Stop Obsessing Over One Deal Start Planting Fifty Kashaun calls it regulated ambition, and it's the antidote to the anxiety that comes from staking your whole identity on a single outcome. He plants dozens of seeds at once, some slow, some fast, so when an email gets ignored for eight months and then suddenly gets a reply, he barely notices because he wasn't waiting on it. Founders who fixate on one deal, one client, or one launch burn themselves out watching a pot that was never going to boil on their schedule. Spread your bets, stay patient, and let the ones that are ready do their work on their own timeline. Timestamps: 00:00 Why every founder feels like they are improvising chaos on purpose 01:00 The system hater who built his whole business on systems 06:06 The leadership advice that only works when nothing is going wrong 09:01 Are you a carrot an egg or a coffee bean under pressure 10:41 The first thing that breaks on a team the second pressure hits 15:14 The restaurant manager who taught him exactly what not to do 16:16 You are setting the weather whether you mean to or not 19:02 The social media lie about what building a business actually feels like 20:56 The real competition every founder is fighting is in the mirror 24:49 The moment he realized discipline was never the answer 32:19 Why effort without structure is just delusion 34:55 Pressure does not create behavior, it exposes it 46:39 Why planting fifty seeds beats betting everything on one 52:11 The two sentences of advice every founder needs to hear Kashaun spent years turning pressure into something predictable, so if you're tired of guessing what's going to break next in your business, go see what he's built. WebsiteLinkedInInstagramPodcast As mentioned in the episode, here’s the short Pressure System Index assessment Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

  2. Jul 12

    Ep. 209 Frank McShane - Their Downtime Was Costing $23,000 an Hour

    Frank McShane spent years leading other people's companies before deciding he was done working for someone else's vision. Instead of taking the easy path back into a big firm with someone else's risk tolerance, he bet that most business owners are chasing the wrong fix, hunting for more customers when the real problem was sitting inside their own P&L the whole time. What makes Frank different is his patience. He does not walk in and start talking. He listens, understands why things are the way they are, then asks one uncomfortable question backed by the client's own numbers. That approach turned a 700 million dollar business bleeding 70 million a year into a 500 million dollar business making 70 million, and it is the same move he ran recently at a paper mill, where he uncovered they were losing 23000 dollars for every hour of downtime they had been quietly measuring in minutes.  Here is what every founder can take from how he does it. 1️⃣ Not all revenue is good revenue Frank ran the numbers at a fuel distribution client and found 11 percent of their customers generated 80 percent of their profit. The other 71 percent barely moved the needle, but still ate up massive time and attention. If you are treating every customer the same because they all show up on the revenue line, you are working just as hard for the wrong people as the right ones. Pull your own numbers and see who is actually paying your bills. 2️⃣ Stop pitching, start doing Frank's sales process used to drag until a colleague told him to quit presenting and just start consulting in the first meeting. Show the client what you can do instead of explaining it, and the decision gets made a lot faster. A quick no beats a long yes every time, and most founders waste months chasing the long yes because they are scared to hear the quick no. 3️⃣ Data only works if it embarrasses someone Frank did not walk into a paper mill and tell them what was wrong. He asked one question, what does an hour of downtime actually cost you, and let the answer do the damage. Turns out it was 23000 dollars an hour, and they had been measuring it in minutes, which made it look small. If you want people to change, do not hand them your opinion. Hand them their own numbers and get out of the way. Timestamps 00:00 The founder who walked away from two exits to start over solo 00:41 What nobody tells you about the sales process when you go out on your own 04:02 The advice that cut his sales cycle in half, start consulting before you start selling 06:58 Why he named his company after the fastest way to waste your own time 09:39 The referral shift that changed his entire business model 10:50 The peaks and valleys problem every solo consultant hits and never talks about 14:13 The 700 million dollar business that was losing 70 million a year, and what fixed it 16:13 11% of customers, 80 percent of the profit, the number that stops every room 17:45 The one spreadsheet trick that makes companies see their own waste instantly 22:44 What happens when he lets AI do the analysis his clients used to pay him for 25:05 The one word he uses to describe eight years of building this on his own 27:04 Why retirement scares him more than the business ever did 30:31 The line from his father that changed how he runs every client engagement 34:11 The number his client didnt know was costing them 23000 dollars an hour If your P&L has more waste hiding in it than you want to admit, Frank's the guy who'll find it before you do. WebsiteLinkedIn Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

  3. Jul 5

    Ep. 208 Robin Ferguson - You're Living Someone Else's Life and Don't Know It

    Robin Ferguson has started more things than most people will in a lifetime. A neonatal ICU. An urgent care. A church. A leadership coaching program that grew to 25 coaches. And then, at a milestone birthday, she finally started something for herself. Three months in, hitting walls with no guaranteed income and her partner in the same boat, she walked to a park with a journal. What came out of that sitting wasn't a new strategy. It was a question she couldn't shake. Whose life am I actually building? That question became The Phoenix Effect. Robin's a coach and speaker who works with leaders and entrepreneurs who are good at what they do but aren't sure it's actually theirs. This conversation gets into what resilience looks like when it's not a personality trait but a daily decision, why high achievers stay buried in busyness long after it stops working, and what happens when a founder finally puts passion, purpose, skill, and livelihood in the same room. If you've ever felt like you were executing someone else's version of your life without realizing it, this one's going to hit. Key Takeaways: 1️⃣ You're not burned out. You're building the wrong story. Most founders assume the hard part is the market, the model, or the money. Robin Ferguson found out it's something older than any of that. The stories you absorbed from family, culture, teachers, and media are quietly running your business decisions right now. If you never stop to ask which ones are actually yours, you will keep grinding toward a version of success that was never yours to begin with. 2️⃣ Resilience isn't something you have. It's something you choose. Robin expected to be resilient going into her own business. What surprised her was that it's not a switch you flip once. It's a decision you make every single morning, especially when there's no guaranteed income and the people closest to you are in the same boat. Founders who treat resilience like a personality trait get blindsided. The ones who treat it like a daily practice build something that lasts. 3️⃣ The pivot that looks like failure is usually the signal. Three months into her business, Robin hit a wall. Instead of pushing harder, she walked to a park with a journal and sat in the quiet. What came out of that wasn't a new strategy. It was the book she'd been putting off for years. The hardest stretch of her founder journey opened the door she actually needed to walk through. If something keeps not working, the answer might not be more effort. It might be a different direction entirely. Timestamps:  00:00 When you realize you have been starting things your whole life 02:45 Leaving a stable career to bet on yourself 06:00 Three months in and hitting walls 08:30 How a park bench and a journal changed everything 11:00 The stories you inherited that are quietly running your life 14:30 Resilience is not a personality trait it is a daily decision 17:30 How to use your calendar like a founder not an employee 21:00 What you wish people recognized about the way you work 24:00 Ikigai and building a business around your reason for being 27:00 Why high achievers stay busy even when it stops working 30:00 Learning to receive help when you are wired to do it yourself 33:00 Intentions over goals and staying open to unexpected doors 36:00 The one word that defines Robin's founder journey 38:00 Where to find Robin and The Phoenix Effect If you're ready to question the story you've been building from, here's where to find Robin. WebsiteLinkedIn Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

  4. Jun 28

    Ep. 207 Ken Miller - He Lost 20 Years to Addiction and Prison. Here's What He Built Next

    Ken Miller shouldn't be where he is. Twenty years on the streets. Three stints in prison. A crack addiction that nearly took everything. And yet here he is running multiple businesses, generating $700K a year, mentoring founders all over the country, and talking about kindness like it's the most practical business skill he's ever developed. His story isn't an exception to the founder journey. It's an extreme version of what every founder faces: fear, finance, and family pulling against the version of yourself you're trying to become. What Ken built on the other side of that rock bottom isn't just success. It's a system. Most founders aren't struggling with control, they're struggling with fear dressed up as control. A solopreneur caps out around $250K not because of the market but because of what they won't let go of. And the most courageous thing you can do in business and in life is stop acting the way you feel. This one's for every founder who knows they need to scale but keeps finding reasons not to. Here's what Ken unpacks in this conversation. 1️⃣ What You Call Control Is Actually Fear Most founders think they have a delegation problem. Ken reframes it completely. The reason you won't hand off tasks isn't because you're a perfectionist or a control freak. It's because you're scared. Scared the business will slip, the quality will drop, or you'll lose your grip on something you've bled to build. Until you name it as fear you can't actually move past it. 2️⃣ Busy Isn't the Same Thing as Forward Ken calls it vertical action versus horizontal action. Treading water is still movement but it isn't progress. If you're spending four hours a day on social media, answering emails, and doing tasks that don't require you specifically, you're not building. You're surviving. The audit is simple: look at your calendar and ask honestly whether what's on it is actually moving you toward the goal or just keeping you feeling productive. 3️⃣ You Don't Have to Act the Way You Feel This one came from Ken's mom and it took him 20 years to fully understand it. Founders feel fear every single day. Fear of the wrong hire, the slow month, the pitch that didn't land. But feeling it doesn't mean you have to lead with it. The most courageous thing you can do is make the next right move even when everything in you wants to freeze. That's not toxic positivity. That's the actual work. Timestamps 00:00 From Homeless to $700K: Ken Miller's Origin Story 07:24 What Founders Get Wrong About Virtual Assistants 10:25 The $250K Ceiling Every Solopreneur Hits 13:00 Delegation Is Not the Problem. Fear Is. 17:00 Learn Do Delegate Automate: The Framework That Scales You 23:00 Treading Water vs. Moving Forward: Know the Difference 31:49 Two Things Ken Would Change to Grow Faster 34:38 Four Businesses, One Mission 37:41 What 20 Years Homeless Taught Him About Business 44:24 How to Shrink Your Fear and Expand Your Capacity 47:08 Courage, Kindness, and the Legacy Worth Building 49:41 Why Ken Chose Good Over Great 52:22 The Financial Advice Every Founder Needs to Hear If Ken's story or framework resonated with you, here's where you can follow his work and reach out directly. WebsiteLinkedInInstagram Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

  5. Jun 21

    Ep. 206 Adam Povlitz - The Recovering Micromanager Who Finally Learned to Let Go

    Most founders think the goal is to be the best person in the room. Adam Povlitz spent a decade proving that was true, then spent the next decade paying for it. As second generation CEO of Anago Cleaning Systems, he walked into his father's franchise and quietly became the thing holding it back. When you are controlling everything, you are not leading. You are the ceiling. It took YPO, a hiring book, a COVID breakdown, and a lot of hard lessons about delegation versus abdication before he figured out that letting go was not a weakness. It was the whole job. If you have ever been the hardest working person in your business and still felt stuck, this one is for you. Key Takeaways: 1️⃣ The skills that got you here will cap you here  Every founder gets promoted by being the best at doing. But the moment you step into a CEO role, doing becomes the enemy of growing. The founders who scale are not the ones who do it best. They are the ones who let go first. 2️⃣ Delegation without structure is just abdication with better intentions  Handing something off without a system is not delegation. It is hope with a deadline. The fix is not better people. It is building the box they need to operate in, clear ownership, milestones, and a reason why attached to every task. 3️⃣ Where you spend your time is the real business strategy  Most founders live in the urgent and ignore the important. Adam protects the time that actually moves the business forward before someone else fills it. The work that builds the future will never scream as loud as the work that is due today. Timestamps:  0:00 He scrubbed toilets and cold-called under a fake name. This is how he got his start. 3:12 What nobody tells you about taking over a family business 5:14 Why he left IBM and chose the messy middle instead 9:15 The biggest shock of franchising. You cannot tell anyone what to do. 12:08 How becoming CEO meant unlearning everything that made him good 15:39 The book that changed how he hires every senior leader 20:17 YPO and why he needed a room full of people smarter than him 21:03 The Eisenhower Matrix. The quadrant where all the money actually gets made. 27:02 Work life integration. There is no balance at the CEO level. 29:19 The Trello system that finally let him stop being the bottleneck 35:06 COVID hit and nothing was the same. Here is what changed first. 39:45 The perception problem in commercial cleaning nobody talks about 41:52 One word to describe the whole journey. His answer will surprise you. 50:59 The best advice he never got. Delegation is not the same as abdication. 55:31 EOS or OKR. Why he built his own hybrid and never looked back. 58:33 How his team tests two AI tools every single month 1:01:27 What they are celebrating a year from now and why it has taken this long If Adam's story hit close to home, here is where you can follow along with what he is building. WebsiteLinkedInInstagram Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

  6. Jun 14

    Ep. 205 Hart Fandrich - She Built 5 Businesses Because Nobody Would Hire Her. Now She Calls It Peace.

    Nobody would hire Hart Fandrich. Not because she was unqualified but because she moved every three years as a military spouse and no employer wanted to bet on someone who'd be gone before she got good at the job. So she stopped asking for permission and started building five businesses over 15 years. Hart's also severely dyslexic with a verbal IQ of 137 and a written IQ of 69, which means the thing most founders lean on hardest to grow, written content and social media, has always been her biggest obstacle. She built anyway. What came out of that journey is a conversation about what it actually takes to build something sustainable without losing yourself in it. Hart gets into why trying to be the operator and the owner at the same time is the trap most founders don't see until it's too late, how she learned to build around her wiring instead of fighting it, and why peace isn't something she's chasing at the end of the road. It's the foundation she's been building on the whole time. For any founder who's wondered if it's supposed to feel this hard, Hart's answer is worth sitting with. Key Takeaways: 1️⃣ You Are Not Supposed to Do All of This Hart spent years trying to be the operator and the owner at the same time and it nearly buried her. The moment she separated those two roles and started asking which tasks only she could do versus which ones someone else could handle, everything changed. Founders who ignore this distinction don't just burn out. They become the bottleneck in their own business. 2️⃣ Your Wiring Is Not Your Weakness Hart's severely dyslexic with a verbal IQ of 137 and a written IQ of 69. Social media, the growth tool every founder is told they can't ignore, has always been her hardest thing. She built five businesses anyway by leaning into how she actually thinks and communicating with clients and team members in the style that matches how they process the world, not how she was told it should be done. The founders who figure out how to build around who they are instead of who they think they should be last longer and lead better. 3️⃣ Peace Is a Strategy, Not a Reward Most founders treat rest, clarity, and peace as something they'll earn after the next milestone. Hart treats it as the foundation everything else is built on. She takes two weeks completely offline every year, defines her growth on her own terms, and measures success by whether the work still feels like hers. If you're waiting to feel good about your business later, you're building toward a finish line that keeps moving. Timestamps: 00:00 She Built Five Businesses Because Nobody Would Hire Her 01:05 From Babysitting to Five Businesses: The Origin Story Most Founders Relate To 03:27 Why the Spa Industry Was the First Thing That Felt Like a Round Peg Round Hole 05:19 The Regulations Nobody Warns You About When You Open a Spa 07:22 The Aha Moment That Changed How She Thinks About Work 08:06 The Biggest Ongoing Challenge: Why Social Media Still Wins 10:03 Are You the Operator or the Owner? The Question That Changed Everything 11:36 How She Finally Learned to Delegate (It Started With Laundry) 13:32 What Entrepreneurship Taught Her About Herself 14:46 Why She Takes Two Weeks Off Alone Every Year and What It Does for Her Business 17:19 The Real Reason Most Founders Struggle to Stay in It 19:02 What Running a Spa Taught Her About the Human Body and Her Own Health 22:59 The Thing Nobody Knows About Her That Reframes Everything 25:34 If You Had a Magic Wand: Two Things She Would Change 27:08 The Two Interview Questions That Tell Her Everything About a Hire 30:38 How She Reads People Using Auditory Visual and Kinesthetic Cues 33:21 One Word to Describe the Founder Journey: Her Answer Will Surprise You 34:08 The Word Driving Her Next Chapter and What She Is Building Toward 35:11 The Win She Is Chasing in the Next 12 Months 36:19 The Best Advice She Has Ever Given or Received as a Founder 39:37 Final Thoughts and Where to Connect With Hart If you want to connect with Hart and see what she's building, here's where to find her: WebsiteLinkedIn Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

  7. Jun 7

    Ep. 204 Andrew Stallings - Laid Off on Monday and Bought the Company by Summer

    Key Takeaways: 1️⃣ Your Network Is Not a Safety Net. It Is the Business. Andrew did not build Athelo Group on a pitch deck or a business plan. He built it on a decade of relationships that were already in place before he ever wrote a check. When founders underinvest in genuine connection and only reach out when they need something, they are not just being bad at networking. They are quietly dismantling the only infrastructure that actually holds when everything else breaks. Community over currency is not a mindset. It is a survival strategy. 2️⃣ Small Failures Are a Feature. Ignoring Them Is the Real Risk. Andrew did not avoid failure. He learned to engineer smaller ones so the catastrophic ones never had a chance to land. Founders who only see the tidal wave when it is already on top of them are not unlucky. They are avoiding the discomfort of early signals. The ability to pivot before you have to is the skill that separates founders who scale from founders who stall. You cannot course correct what you refuse to look at. 3️⃣ Stability Is Not Weakness. It Is the Thing You Were Always Chasing. Eight years in, tens of millions built, and what Andrew wants most is to stop freaking out about payroll. That is not a failure of ambition. That is clarity. Founders who treat stability like a consolation prize often run past the finish line without realizing they already won. If you cannot define what enough looks like, the chaos never becomes organized. It just stays chaos. Timestamps 00:00 The Origin Story Nobody Romanticizes But Every Founder Needs to Hear 01:10 Beer League Hockey a Bad Idea and the Birth of Othello Group 05:30 Why He Paid Out His Partners and Never Looked Back 07:44 What Happens to Friendships When One Person Outgrows the Vision 10:43 The Trait Every Successful Founder Has That They Will Never Admit Out Loud 13:47 Stress Is My Love Language and Why That Is a Gift and a Problem 20:49 The Person Behind the Scenes Who Makes the Whole Thing Work 21:30 The Biggest Misconception About What It Takes to Run Your Own Business 25:09 Why Your Network Is the Only Strategy That Actually Compounds 27:44 How to Build a Personal Brand When You Have Nothing to Offer Yet 33:57 What Andrew Does When the Chaos Gets Too Loud 36:13 The Injury That Forced Him to Stop and What He Found in the Stillness 39:53 The Two Things He Would Change About His Business Right Now 42:17 What He Wishes People Understood About Him Beyond the Hustle 44:38 One Word That Sums Up Eight Years of Building in the Messy Middle 49:24 The Win He Is Chasing Next and Why It Has Nothing to Do With Revenue If Andrew's story of building Athelo Group from a post-honeymoon layoff into a powerhouse sports agency resonates with you, here is where to find him and keep up with what he is building. Website: https://athelogroup.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/astallings88/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/athelogroup/ Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

  8. May 31

    Ep. 203 Carl Stecker - The $407 Pharmacy Bill That Wouldn't Let Go

    What founders will take away from this episode: 1️⃣ The problems that won't let go are the ones worth building for Carl couldn't shake the $407 pharmacy bill. It stuck to him like a tick, and that obsession became FreeRx. When something frustrates you so deeply that you can't stop thinking about it, that's not a distraction. That's signal. The best founder problems aren't the ones you choose because they're trendy or fundable. They're the ones that choose you and won't let you walk away. If you're constantly trying to convince yourself to care, you're building the wrong thing. 2️⃣ Your business partner can collapse overnight and you still have to keep building Carl's Ohio pharmacy partner went from "we're gonna make it" to bankrupt in what felt like a weekend. His whole fulfillment operation disappeared while customers were waiting on prescriptions. Instead of shutting down, he started buying into pharmacies across four states to control the experience. Partners fail. Vendors go dark. Systems break. The founders who survive aren't the ones who avoid chaos. They're the ones who build contingency into their operations before they need it and pivot fast when everything falls apart. 3️⃣ Mission over money isn't just a tagline when you've almost died three times Carl said if FreeRx doesn't make a dime but changes the pricing model for healthcare, he's happy. That's easy to say in a podcast. It's harder to mean it when you've been on life support for 11 days and you're still choosing to disrupt the industry that saved you. Founders talk about purpose all the time, but real mission clarity shows up in how you make decisions when growth is slow, partners bail, and the path forward isn't clear. If your why can't survive your worst week, it's not strong enough to build a company on. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome to the chaos of building while broken 01:20 The $407 moment that started everything 02:40 Three open heart surgeries and 11 days in a coma 05:30 Why CVS and Walgreens markup prescriptions up to 3000% 08:10 Building a formulary when you know nothing about pharmaceuticals 12:15 The membership model that makes healthcare actually affordable 18:45 Adding virtual urgent care when people don't have doctors 24:30 Why the staffing industry became the perfect first market 31:20 The EpiPen scandal and medication access deserts 38:15 When your Ohio pharmacy partner goes broke overnight 43:50 Buying into pharmacies to control the customer experience 48:25 Marketing that drives you crazy but you keep going anyway 52:40 The mission over money philosophy that keeps you moving 56:30 Gary's no filter moment that exposed everything 59:00 Where to find FreeRx and how the model actually works If you're curious how Carl's actually disrupting a 3000% markup with a $50 subscription model or you just want to see if FreeRx covers what you're paying too much for, start here. Website: https://freerx.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-stecker-3580118/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carl.stecker/ Thank you for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform and share it with your network. We encourage you to join our community HERE and connect with us on social media for the latest updates and more great content. Connect With Us: LinkedIn Instagram YouTube

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Every day, entrepreneurs all over the world roll out of bed and say: Hello, Chaos. And more often than not, we’re having that conversation in our own heads. It’s time to crack the dialogue wide open. Hello Chaos is a weekly podcast dedicated to entrepreneurs and founders, published every Sunday. It is another platform brought to you by OrangeWIP. It is a megaphone and round table created specifically to welcome bright, stubborn, visionary minds to a conversation founders have been craving. Here, founders have permission to vent—or be vulnerable. To bring the wildest ideas. Their greatest obstacles. And find a national sounding board for solutions. Here, we want founders show off—or allow them to speak their truth. To meet challenges head-on. To make hyper-local community connections. And share “aha!” and “oh shit” moments. Welcome to Hello Chaos. Founders, it's time to unmute yourself.