See You On The Other Side

Leah & Christine

Leah and Christine started a podcast about their healing journeys with psychedelics in 2022. At the time, these subjects were stigmatized and not often talked about on a public platform. But after 3 years of eye opening conversations that would make some people uncomfortable, we realized this space has shifted into something more — a space to safely explore the unknown. We believe the most powerful conversations happen in the gray areas. The ones that make you squirm a little, but leave you seeing the world differently. This podcast is where curiosity meets courage. We’re not here to hand you answers. We’re here to ask the questions that shift perspectives, spark empathy, and remind us that growth starts in the discomfort. Stay curious, be open, and we'll see you on the other side.

  1. 6D AGO

    105 | In Our Hestia Era

    There's a reason we’ve been quiet. We have some news! We're entering into a new season of life that’s asking for a different kind of attention. Our Hestia Era. The Greek Goddess of the hearth, home and hospitality, Hestia represents warmth, stability and quiet strength. We can’t stop thinking about life as a psychedelic journey. The point of no return, the surrender, the intensity, the resilience, and the 'holy shit, I did that' moment on the other side. We connect it to trauma, self-sabotage, and what it feels like to finally build safety in your body, your relationship, and your home without waiting for the other shoe to drop. We also share an Akashic Records reading, the idea of soul contracts, and why learning to trust can be harder than learning to let go. We zoom out into the cultural pressure cooker too: feminism vs maternal feminism, stay-at-home mom stigma, and why so many parents are burned out trying to do everything at once. Then we land on a big life update that makes this conversation bittersweet. How we want to keep sharing 'glimmers' instead of performing online. If this podcast has ever helped you feel more curious, more open, or more hopeful, please share with a friend. https://lunabyleah.square.site/ https://open.spotify.com/episode/0GKAYm2XdX3LoCbH2BndJU?si=nXLhfTDVQP--Z_s3uoRbOg https://open.spotify.com/episode/0vXjbmobEhSX0p0REMkEVo?si=QvEfU5CIQISqn-HjFFPFyA https://open.spotify.com/episode/0m9FsmGniEHLvAV8CWqJ3X?si=_gMm2_9AQ4iOs5btYQVPl Microdosify 10% OFF our trusted microdose supply! 1:1 Discovery Calls Are psychedelics right for you on your healing journey? Book a discovery call to ask us anything. Support the show Join our Patreon for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/seeyouontheotherside Our Website: https://linktr.ee/seeyouontheothersidepodcast

    1h 27m
  2. MAR 20

    104 | Changing Your Mind Without Losing Your Values (with Anthony)

    Politics used to feel like opinions. Now it can feel like a full-body threat and if you question the script, you risk getting exiled. We sit down with Anthony Rispo, who studied psychology, neuroscience, and political behavior at Columbia University. An expert in how we measure human cognition, emotion, and behavior. We talk about what happens when you leave a political side, stop fitting neatly into a label, and realize you're politically homeless in a culture that demands total certainty. We go deep into the psychology behind the temperature of the country right now. Binary thinking, hostile attribution bias, cognitive dissonance, and why social media turns disagreement into dehumanization. Anthony shares how old wounds and identity-based hypervigilance can shape how we read the world, and how 2020 pushed many people into anger that didn’t match who they wanted to be. We also talk about maturity as emotional regulation, why parenthood and responsibility narrow your priorities, and what it looks like to protect your home (and heart) by logging off. From there, we unpack big ideas with real-world stakes: critical theory in higher education, the Overton window shifting under our feet, and how 'sacred values' plus identity fusion can make people feel justified in bullying a small business or screaming labels at someone instead of having a conversation. We also wrestle with the uncomfortable tradeoffs people avoid when they only see victims and villains. If you’re craving nuance, intellectual humility, and a way to think for yourself again, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who feels stuck in the middle, and leave a review with the mindset shift that helped you lower your own temperature. You can find Anthony here: https://linktr.ee/anthonyrispo  and here: https://www.instagram.com/anthonyrispo/ The Myth of Left and Right: https://a.co/d/00A7MDBx Microdosify 10% OFF our trusted microdose supply! 1:1 Discovery Calls Are psychedelics right for you on your healing journey? Book a discovery call to ask us anything. Support the show Join our Patreon for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/seeyouontheotherside Our Website: https://linktr.ee/seeyouontheothersidepodcast

    1h 50m
  3. FEB 11

    103 | From Pharmacy To Functional: Rethinking Men’s Health (with Rob)

    If pain is a portal, what’s on the other side? We invited functional pharmacist and men’s health coach Rob Kress to help us challenge the default settings of modern care...more meds, more noise, less self. Rob shares how he moved from conventional pharmacy to a practice that blends functional medicine, clinical nutrition, and mind‑body work, and why the real turning point for so many men is a regulated nervous system and the courage to tell the truth. We dig into the moments most men avoid. The numbness that follows chronic stress, the swing between agitation and apathy, and the quiet stories they keep buried deep. Rob offers simple, practical resets like two minutes to breathe before a hard talk, a short burst of movement to discharge stress, and five minutes of daily silence to build safety and presence. From there, we unpack testosterone: when TRT helps, when it masks a deeper issue, and how thyroid, adrenals, sleep, alcohol, and cannabis shape libido and drive more than most realize. Our conversation gets real about America’s medication reflex. SSRIs and benzos can bring relief, but they often mute feeling and complicate long‑term healing. Rob shares how to taper thoughtfully with breathwork, body‑based therapy, a good team and a plan. We also explore autism through a systems lens. Acetaminophen’s impact on glutathione, the difference between folic acid and folate, the promise of folinic acid for speech in some kids, and how dairy may elevate folate receptor autoantibodies. It’s not about single causes. It’s about looking at every angle. We close with agency. Interview your doctors, curate a care team, and choose tools that align with your values. The path to health and healing is meant to be co‑creative. Show up for the meaningful work, focus on the what, and release the need to control the timeline. If this conversation recharged your curiosity, share it with a friend, leave a review, and subscribe. And check out our Patreon so you never miss an episode. https://www.patreon.com/c/seeyouontheotherside Connect with Rob here: www.instagram.com/robkressfrx? https://linktr.ee/robkressfrx https://www.functionalpharmacy.com/contact-rob Microdosify 10% OFF our trusted microdose supply! 1:1 Discovery Calls Are psychedelics right for you on your healing journey? Book a discovery call to ask us anything. Support the show Join our Patreon for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/seeyouontheotherside Our Website: https://linktr.ee/seeyouontheothersidepodcast

    1h 38m
  4. FEB 11

    102 | Edward Bernays (The Father of Propaganda)

    What if your thoughts and opinions were engineered? Let's dive into a propaganda rabbit hole. How propaganda (aka public relations) and algorithmic incentives hijack emotion, flatten nuance, and train us to spread messages for free. Starting with Aristotle’s ethos, pathos, and logos, we explore how Edward Bernays retooled persuasion into a system that borrows authority, attaches positive symbols, and weaponizes social proof. From WWI slogans to Torches of Freedom, from 'bacon and eggs' to the Department of Defense rebrand, we unpack the campaigns that quietly rewired our culture. But this rabbit hole goes even deeper. Edward Bernays is the reason there is fluoride in our water and it's not for the reasons we were told. Drawing on historical records and declassified research, we consider how industrial incentives, selective expertise, and language framing shaped public belief. Even if you disagree with parts of the case, the deeper point remains...consent requires clarity, and 'trust the experts' only works when the experts’ incentives are transparent. Along the way, we map the science of REM sleep and the pineal gland, and why compromised sleep can ripple into mood, memory, and stress regulation. The goal here isn’t panic, it’s proportion and discernment. You’ll leave with a practical checklist to spot manipulation. Watch for emotional jolts, heroes-vs-villains framing, repeated talking points, borrowed authority, glittering generalities, and bandwagon pressure that turns identity into obedience. We also draw a line between empathy and emotional intelligence. Caring without drowning. Helping without enabling. Want more nuance and less noise? Hit play, subscribe for new rabbit holes, and share this with a friend who loves a good deprogramming. If it challenged you, leave a review and tell us which rabbit hole you want us to dive into next. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6309358/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6902325/ https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2024-12-06/map-fluoride-in-drinking-water-by-state https://www.gaia.com/article/the-actual-truth-about-fluoride?render=details-v4Chose https://fluoridealert.org/content/mullenix-interview/ https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jun/08/lifeandhealth.health https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Edward_Bernays https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/fluoridation-capitalist-plot/ https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html Microdosify 10% OFF our trusted microdose supply! 1:1 Discovery Calls Are psychedelics right for you on your healing journey? Book a discovery call to ask us anything. Support the show Join our Patreon for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/seeyouontheotherside Our Website: https://linktr.ee/seeyouontheothersidepodcast

    1h 45m
  5. 12/17/2025

    101 | Critical Thinking 101 (Curiosity with Discipline)

    What if the bravest move you can make in a polarized world where everyone is picking a 'team' is refuse to play the game, and start asking questions? What if the true rebellion is to step out of the binary fight and say, 'Okay, but what’s really true here? What’s being missed? What’s the actual problem?' Let's talk about the raw reality of tensions over politics and the relief we found after stepping away from party identity. We unpack how to rebuild real dialogue: regulate your nervous system, slow your reaction, and practice intellectual humility. The payoff isn’t abstract. It’s fewer blown-up group chats, more honest relationships, and a mind that can hold nuance without fracturing. We break down critical thinking in practical terms: curiosity with discipline. You’ll hear why emotions hijack logic, how information overload and algorithms create echo chambers, and why group loyalty often beats truth unless we consciously choose otherwise. We share candid stories, including catching viral misinformation mid-share and what it took to become a safe place for disagreement. We also examine the less discussed factors that dim clarity: chronic stress, lack of sleep, and how certain medications or mental health states can blunt curiosity and slow reasoning. Then we get tactical. A cheat sheet for critical thinking. 'How do I know this?' 'Who benefits if I believe it?' 'What would change my mind?' Plus ways to diversify sources without burning out. We talk incentives behind research, following the money, and spotting logical fallacies so you can see rhetorical tricks in real time. Most of all, we normalize changing your mind. That’s not weakness, it’s growth. We close by naming beliefs we’ve outgrown and tease a part two: a deep dive on propaganda’s history and psychology, and how to stay immune. Real courage isn't doubling down on a side. It's being curious when everyone else is being loud. If this resonates, tap follow, share with a friend who craves nuance, and join our Patreon where you can join the chat and leave one belief you’ve updated lately. Your reflection might be the bridge someone else needs. https://www.patreon.com/c/seeyouontheotherside Microdosify 10% OFF our trusted microdose supply! 1:1 Discovery Calls Are psychedelics right for you on your healing journey? Book a discovery call to ask us anything. Support the show Join our Patreon for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/seeyouontheotherside Our Website: https://linktr.ee/seeyouontheothersidepodcast

    1h 52m
  6. 11/19/2025

    100 | Healing Beyond Talk: Somatic Therapy with Amanda

    What if you stopped trying to outthink your pain and started to feel it? We welcome therapist and somatic practitioner Amanda Newton for a candid, deeply practical journey from hospital based psychology and burnout to body led healing, nervous system regulation, and the intentional use of MDMA-assisted therapy for trauma. Amanda traces the moment a heart scare forced her to question a 70-hour workweek and a mind only approach. From there, she dug into herbs, acupuncture, and somatic practices that shifted her baseline from survival to safety. We unpack how dysregulation hides in everyday life. Alarms, inboxes, caretaking and society. And why the body must learn to feel safe before the mind can think clearly. Expect tangible tools: shaking to complete stress responses, interoception to locate emotions as sensations, and an anger practice that moves charge out of the system in under two minutes. We also touch on psychedelic medicine used in therapy. Specifically MDMA. When used intentionally it can can raise oxytocin, reduce fear, and make it possible to revisit a trauma without reliving it,  and rewiring triggers at the physiological level. Amanda shares outcomes she’s witnessed, addresses MDMA myths, and explains why integration ~ nature time, somatic exercises, and daily regulation ~ turns breakthroughs into durable change. We touch the edges too: personality disorders that resist awareness, partners stuck in cycles of people-pleasing and control, and how shifting your internal frequency changes who you attract and how you relate. If you’ve tried talk therapy and still feel stuck, this is a map to the other 50% of the work. You’ll leave with clear practices, a fresh lens on anxiety as a safety signal, and a grounded sense that your body isn’t the problem. It’s the map. If this conversation resonates, subscribe, share it with a friend who needs it, and leave a review to help others find the show. Connect with Amanda here: https://wellnesssomaticcenter.com/ Books we covered in this episode: All the Way to the River: https://amzn.to/47pHABU When the Body Says No: https://amzn.to/47VoZxz The Body Keeps the Score: https://amzn.to/4939uVw Microdosify 10% OFF our trusted microdose supply! 1:1 Discovery Calls Are psychedelics right for you on your healing journey? Book a discovery call to ask us anything. Support the show Join our Patreon for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/seeyouontheotherside Our Website: https://linktr.ee/seeyouontheothersidepodcast

    1h 27m
  7. 10/29/2025

    99 | Context, Courage, and the Cost of Speaking Up

    The temperature online feels louder, sharper, and less forgiving by the day. So we decided to do the uncomfortable thing: talk honestly about context, courage, and how to disagree without dehumanizing each other. We trace the spiral from viral clips to moral panic, the way empathy gets weaponized as a political pose, and why whataboutism is the fastest way to kill a real conversation. Along the way, we admit our own fears about posting, the hives and shaky hands that come with saying something unpopular, and the relief of finally choosing brave expression over silence. We go deep on the Charlie Kirk controversy to show how quotes mutate when pulled from their setting, then widen the lens to the broader ecosystem: media echo chambers, confirmation bias, and the illusion that we’re all reacting to the same facts. We talk about listening to people we disagree with, seeking nonpartisan reporting, and recognizing when someone is committed to misunderstanding you. Bringing in Africa Brooke’s 'The Third Perspective,' we share practical tools for speaking with integrity in an age that punishes nuance. The most personal turn comes with autism, Tylenol, vaccines, and the line between inquiry and taboo. One of us is parenting a child on the spectrum, and we center the harsh realities many families face while arguing for compassionate and curiosity instead of ridicule. We also examine pharma’s cultural footprint ~ direct-to-consumer ads, quick prescriptions, and the subtle ways a system conditions us to medicate first and ask later ~ without throwing out the real benefits of Western medicine. If you’ve felt yourself go quiet to avoid the pile-on, this conversation is for you. Take a breath, step outside the algorithm, and come sit in the messy middle where context lives and curiosity survives. If this resonates, follow us on Patreon and share with a friend who values nuance and holds space for multiple perspectives. Microdosify 10% OFF our trusted microdose supply! 1:1 Discovery Calls Are psychedelics right for you on your healing journey? Book a discovery call to ask us anything. Support the show Join our Patreon for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/seeyouontheotherside Our Website: https://linktr.ee/seeyouontheothersidepodcast

    1h 24m
  8. 10/22/2025

    98 | The Third Perspective: Politically Homeless in a Polarized World

    Remember when expressing a nuanced political opinion didn't mean losing friends and family? When questioning a narrative didn't automatically get you labeled? This raw, vulnerable conversation explores what happens when you find yourself "politically homeless" in today's hyper-polarized climate. We dive deep into our personal journeys from rigid, black-and-white thinking toward a more nuanced worldview. We share how personal growth opened our eyes to complexity in all areas of life ~ including politics ~ and the backlash we've experienced for speaking our evolving truths. We talk about concepts like 'the horseshoe theory,' which suggests that political extremes on both sides mirror each other in tactics and mindset despite seeming opposed. We illustrate how our collective tendency toward binary thinking keeps us trapped in cycles of judgment and division. What makes this conversation particularly powerful is our refusal to choose sides while maintaining firm grounding in our core values. We advocate for a third perspective. A middle path that embraces complexity, allows for questioning, and prioritizes human connection over ideological purity. Whether you're feeling silenced for questioning narratives, alienated for not perfectly aligning with either political extreme, or simply exhausted by the divisiveness of current discourse, this episode offers both validation and hope. The path forward isn't about being right ~ it's about remaining curious, staying grounded in your truth, and finding the courage to engage meaningfully across differences. Microdosify 10% OFF our trusted microdose supply! 1:1 Discovery Calls Are psychedelics right for you on your healing journey? Book a discovery call to ask us anything. Support the show Join our Patreon for exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/seeyouontheotherside Our Website: https://linktr.ee/seeyouontheothersidepodcast

    2h 4m
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About

Leah and Christine started a podcast about their healing journeys with psychedelics in 2022. At the time, these subjects were stigmatized and not often talked about on a public platform. But after 3 years of eye opening conversations that would make some people uncomfortable, we realized this space has shifted into something more — a space to safely explore the unknown. We believe the most powerful conversations happen in the gray areas. The ones that make you squirm a little, but leave you seeing the world differently. This podcast is where curiosity meets courage. We’re not here to hand you answers. We’re here to ask the questions that shift perspectives, spark empathy, and remind us that growth starts in the discomfort. Stay curious, be open, and we'll see you on the other side.

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