Masters in Small Business M&A

Peter Lehrman
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Welcome to the “Masters in Small Business Mergers and Acquisitions podcast.” I am your host, Peter Lehrman, and I’m the Founder and CEO of Axial (www.axial.net), a trusted online platform for business owners & their M&A advisors to use to safely and intelligently explore and execute capital raises, acquisitions, and exits with strategic buyers or professional financial sponsors.

  1. 11/25/2025

    LP First Capital: Behind the Impressive Rise of a Top-Tier Independent Sponsor

    Today’s guests are Thomas Ince and Logan Lowery, Managing Partners of LP First Capital, a top-rated independent sponsor that has closed 70 deals in just six years. Ince and Lowery share the origin of the firm’s name and dive into how LP First approaches investor alignment, capital structuring, and platform building. They discuss the nuances of working with a diverse mix of LPs, co-GP partnerships with private equity firms, and the firm’s emphasis on speed, sourcing discipline, and founder alignment. The conversation closes with reflections on hold vs. exit decisions, the firm's evolution, and what lies ahead. Discussion Points: The story behind the name “LP First” and its layered meaning Structuring investor alignment through incentive design Evolving LP mix and the importance of thoughtful capital composition Why LP First often starts transactions all-equity and leverages up later Getting comfortable with private equity funds as LPs Co-GP partnerships with private equity firms and how LP First approaches governance Criteria for selecting GP partners and building trust LP First’s value prop: speed, responsiveness, and sourcing systems Building and executing within a focused buy box Prioritizing founder energy and cultural fit in platform investments Thoughts on hold duration, liquidity timing, and compounding value Scaling thoughtfully while building long-term firm credibility Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host, Peter Lehrman, and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test. If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com. Resources Thomas Ince’s LinkedIn Logan Lowery’s LinkedIn Peter Lehrman’s LinkedIn Thomas Ince’s X Peter Lehrman’s X LP First Capital Website Axial’s 2025 Independent Sponsor Report

    49 min

  2. 09/09/2025

    Furniture Industry M&A with Bo Stump

    Today’s guest is Bo Stump, a partner at Stump & Company, a family-owned third-generation M&A advisory firm based in Charlotte, North Carolina.  The folks at Stump & Company are among the most trusted and respected thinkers and advisors on exit strategy and M&A across the entire furniture supply chain, from wholesale materials and manufacturing, all the way to branded goods and their evolving distribution channels.  In this episode, Peter and Bo discuss how the furniture industry’s supply chain has evolved — from domestic manufacturing to global sourcing and now e-commerce — and how these shifts impact profit pools, relative valuations, and buyer appetite.  The conversation also reveals how Stump & Company thinks about sell-side exit process dynamics, how they do the calculus on what kind of process to run, what kinds of buyers to invite, and how they handle the often competing interests of certainty of close, speed to close, and optimal price and terms. Discussion Points: History and evolution of Stump & Company The firm’s niche focus in the furniture and home goods sectors Shifts in manufacturing: domestic, offshore, and hybrid models Rise of e-commerce and omnichannel distribution The growing influence of interior designers on furniture purchasing Attributes that drive premium valuations in furniture businesses How Bo’s team runs different types of M&A processes A case study on optimizing buyer fit over the highest bid Private equity’s cycles of engagement in the furniture space Bo’s take on how to prepare for an exit and “timing” the market Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we delve into the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a diverse mix of seasoned and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test. If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report

    58 min

  3. 06/12/2025

    Nick Huber’s journey from college entrepreneur to RE Acquirer back to full time CEO; a case study in entrepreneurial private equity

    Today’s guest is Nick Huber, founder and owner of Bolt Storage and current CEO of Somewhere.com, a worldwide staffing business acquired in 2024.  Nick joins Peter to discuss the formative acquisitions across his entrepreneurial journey – from growing a distressed storage portfolio into 60+ properties, to the $52M acquisition of worldwide remote staffing firm, Somewhere.com. They cover his transition from operator to acquirer and back to CEO, capital structuring tactics, and why he bet so big on Somewhere.com.  On top of it all, Nick found time to publish his book, The Sweaty Startup, and offers key insights from the book and why he wrote it. Discussion Points: Nick’s first storage buildout in 2015 and the pivot to acquisitions A turning point deal: buying a mismanaged Erie, PA portfolio at public auction Transitioning from scrappy operations to managing a global team Building out a PE-backed acquisition engine for Bolt Storage Underwriting and managing 62 storage acquisitions with global remote staff Why Nick slowed down storage deals after the 2022 interest rate spike The story behind acquiring Somewhere.com for $52M Breaking down the deal structure and equity incentives Rebuilding operations post-acquisition: new hires, new brand, new funnel Why South Africa became central to Somewhere.com  Transforming sales and recruiting teams using global talent Which industries are adopting global hiring (law, construction, SaaS, architecture) Why AI is not replacing Somewhere.com’s business model anytime soon Lessons from raising outside capital and the pressure that comes with it The overlap between operating and authoring The Sweaty Startup Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host, Peter Lehrman, and the team at Axial (

    54 min

  4. 05/13/2025

    From Apollo & Viking to the Gritty Lower Middle Market. Building Tucker’s Farm with Kyle Tucker

    On today’s episode, Kyle Tucker, founder of Tucker’s Farm Corporation, joins Peter Lehrman to share his journey from big league private equity and hedge fund land to creating a unique investment platform focused on roll-ups in the lower middle market.  Kyle shares how early inspiration from Warren Buffett and experiences in private equity shaped his approach to long-duration, high-compounding investments. They discuss Tucker’s Farm's focus on aggregation strategies, the importance of friction in deal sourcing and in deal execution, and why Kyle prioritizes operational scale over traditional private equity paths. Discussion Points: Kyle Tucker’s early inspiration and career path through Apollo and Viking The appeal of value investing and structured private equity strategies Discovering the potential of roll-ups and aggregation strategies Founding Tucker’s Farm and its focus on high-compounding investments Structuring deals for flexibility and identifying true compounders Lessons from launching a med spa roll-up and handling early setbacks The role of friction in sourcing and why opacity creates opportunity How Tucker’s Farm balances operational scale with investment judgment The evolving private equity landscape and navigating market saturation Kyle’s perspective on staying in the lower middle market while scaling horizontally Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for qualified business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with the lower middle market’s top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test. If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league-table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com.

    52 min

  5. 04/10/2025

    Investing in Bootstrapped Vertical Market Software: A Conversation with Lance Fenton

    Today’s guest is Lance Fenton, a Partner at Serent Capital, a private equity fund investing in bootstrapped vertical market software businesses. In this episode, Lance breaks down Serent’s software investment thesis, how it evolved over time, and how they think about sourcing, returns, hold period, and the future prospects of these niche businesses. Lance shares how Serent approaches value creation, the importance of high gross retention, the role of pricing optimization, and how they are responding to AI’s arrival as a threat and opportunity across their portfolio. Lance shares an unusually transparent and candid look at Serent’s direct sourcing model, why they prioritize long-term relationships with founders, and what makes an investment business truly great over decades of success. Discussion Points: Serent Capital’s transition from B2B services to vertical market software Why high recurring revenue and high ROIC drive investment decisions The adoption curve of Vertical Market SaaS: from on-premise to cloud and beyond How shifting to SaaS from on-premise improves net revenue retention The role of payments in vertical software and its impact on valuations How Serent thinks about downturns and risk in underwriting deals The key attributes Serent looks for in vertical software investments Why pricing strategy is a critical lever for growth The role of AI in the evolution of software businesses Why Serent prioritizes direct sourcing over intermediated deal flow The challenges and advantages of a long-term sourcing approach How PE firms evolve and sustain long-term success Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test. If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league-table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com. Resources:

    59 min

  6. 03/06/2025

    The Shifting EtA Landscape: The Rise of Self-Funded Search with HBS Professors Royce Yudkoff & Richard Ruback

    This episode features guests Royce Yudkoff and Richard (Rick) Ruback, co-authors of the Harvard Business Review Guide to Buying a Small Business, and professors at Harvard Business School (HBS). Royce and Rick have spent more than 15 years teaching Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (EtA) and have witnessed the category evolve from a niche MBA pursuit into a mainstream career path for mid-career professionals and beyond.  The conversation covers how EtA has expanded beyond elite MBA programs, the shifting dynamics of self-funded vs. funded search, the evolution of financing options, and the role of small business acquisition as an alternative to traditional career paths. Royce and Rick share insights on how self-funded search has become a dominant trend, the growing diversity in the EtA space, and what the future holds for small business ownership. Discussion Points: Introduction to HBS professors Royce Yudkoff & Richard Ruback The rise of interest in the EtA category, both in and outside MBA programs Success stories helping legitimize EtA as a mainstream career path How the financing landscape for EtA has evolved over the past decade Advantages of SBA loans and the common misconceptions of personal guarantees Balancing family considerations and relocation decisions when executing a search The impact of institutional capital entering the EtA market and its effect on returns The rise of self-funded search as the preferred model among Harvard MBAs Commercial acumen, EQ, and sales skills - key traits in small business success How mid-career professionals can transition into EtA (without leaving their jobs) The importance of embedding yourself in the business community before you buy Predictions for the future of EtA and how the category will continue evolving Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for the podcast here) is produced by its host, Peter Lehrman, and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test. If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market

    57 min

  7. 01/30/2025

    Hagan Kappler is building Daisy, a Rollup & Franchisor in Smart Home Services

    Do you love your home “IT and AV guy”? We didn’t think so.   In this episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Hagan Kappler, co-founder of Daisy, an emerging national player leader in home technology installation, integration, and servicing. Daisy has acquired eight companies in roughly 12 months, and is beginning to integrate franchise opportunities into the buy-and-build M&A playbook.   The conversation is all about Hagan, her team, her authentic history of operating and transacting in related categories, and Daisy’s unique approach to combining M&A and franchising.  Hagan details how her team is drawing lessons from other home services markets, how they’re experimenting with new recurring revenue business models, and how they’re tackling other challenges that plague the residential A/V and smart home categories.  Discussion Points: The Daisy origin story and the idea of a national smart home services model The market opportunity: A $30 billion industry with no national brand Hagan’s transition from home services to smart technology Differentiating through service with the recurring "Daisy Care" model Building a brand and operational infrastructure: CRM, training, and call centers Balancing M&A and franchising strategies for scale Strategic geographic expansion and post-acquisition value-add initiatives The unfair advantage of an experienced M&A team in home services The importance of optionality in financing and operational models Franchising as a growth engine: improving owner quality of life and increasing business valuation Recurring service offerings as a key differentiator Aligning the business for 2025: Scaling recurring services and brand identity Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for the podcast here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test. If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league table rankings

    54 min

  8. 01/07/2025

    Building a Consequential Investment Bank with Adam Breslawsky

    In this episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Adam Breslawsky, founding partner and managing director of lower middle market investment bank Oberon Securities. Adam shares Oberon's origin story, detailing its humble beginnings, initial challenges, early clients and eventual growth into what is now a firm of 80 bankers across the U.S.  The conversation dives into the intricacies of recruiting and retaining top investment bankers, the evolving art and science of investment banking, the transformation in the buyer landscape and its implications for competitive deal dynamics, and how Oberon endeavors to be exceptional. Adam also weighs in with his advice on what business owners must focus on when preparing for an exit and how they should evaluate and hire an M&A banker. Discussion Points: The founding story of Oberon Securities and its early challenges The success-based compensation model, recruiting, and fostering banker retention Attributes that distinguish the average banker from the excellent banker The old-school approach to generating leads by building quality relationships The evolving buyer landscape and how Adam assesses buyer suitability for his clients Advice for business owners planning an exit: timing, preparation, and banker selection Putting together the right pitch to win a business owner engagement Oberon's commitment to staying focused on its core mission Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test. If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league-table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com. Resources Adam Breslawsky LinkedIn Oberon Securities Website Peter Lehrman LinkedIn Peter Lehrman X Axial Website

    58 min
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Welcome to the “Masters in Small Business Mergers and Acquisitions podcast.” I am your host, Peter Lehrman, and I’m the Founder and CEO of Axial (www.axial.net), a trusted online platform for business owners & their M&A advisors to use to safely and intelligently explore and execute capital raises, acquisitions, and exits with strategic buyers or professional financial sponsors.

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