Looks Good on Paper

Anita Chauhan

Looks Good on Paper flips hiring on its head. Hosted by Andrew Wood and Anita Chauhan, we dive into why CVs and "perfect fits" are overrated. Through fun, insightful conversations with industry experts, we explore how skills, potential, and real experience should be the focus of hiring... not what looks good on paper. Quick, candid, and packed with actionable insights, we’re here to rewrite the rules of hiring, one episode at a time.

  1. Aug 5

    I don't read CVs and I don't hire locally

    Most hiring leaders will tell you they hire for skills. Then they open a CV, scan for a university name, check a location field, and quietly filter out everyone who lives more than a commute away. Gerard Holland stopped participating in that process altogether. He came out of finance, spent years placing international students into internships, and then got asked a question by Zondwa Mandela that redirected his entire business: why are you helping privileged people? Today he runs Talent Match Africa, connecting companies in Australia, the UK and North America with full-time professionals working from enterprise grade offices in Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Durban, Johannesburg and Cape Town. In this conversation he explains why he no longer reads CVs, what he had to do to dismantle a bias his clients did not know they were carrying, and why hiring for potential is still the problem nobody has cracked. Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/ZrfORkWBDoA What you'll learn - Why hiring within seven kilometres of your office is a resourcing decision disguised as a culture decision  - How Gerard's own picture of Africa was built by charity advertising, and what changed it  - Why professionally produced video profiles outperformed every argument he could make in a sales call  - What happens to a CV when a candidate can paste a job ad into a chatbot and get a perfect one back  - Why big Australian corporates have started mandating in person final interviews  - The case for using AI for shortlisting and humans for everything after it  - Why every second person entering the global workforce by 2035 will live in Africa GUEST Gerard Holland, Founder and Executive Director, Talent Match Africa Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerardholland/ Talent Match Africa: https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmatchafrica/ YOUR HOST Anita Chauhan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/ LISTEN & FOLLOW Buzzsprout: https://looksgoodonpaper.buzzsprout.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@looksgoodonpaperpodcast POWERED BY WILLO Willo is the video hiring platform built on a simple idea: you're more than a CV. https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper CONNECT WITH US Willo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893 If this one made you rethink how you screen, share it with someone who still opens with the CV, and subscribe so you don't miss the next episode. Looks Good on Paper is a podcast about hiring, talent and the limits of the CV, hosted by Anita Chauhan and powered by Willo. In this Season 4 episode, Gerard Holland, founder of Talent Match Africa, explains why he no longer uses CVs to assess candidates, how video profiles changed his clients' expectations of African talent, and how companies can hire across borders without importing the bias that comes with geography and credentials. Topics include remote hiring, offshore talent, skills based hiring, AI generated applications, video screening and hiring for potential. Show Resources Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host

    I don't read CVs and I don't hire locally
  2. Jul 22

    Make sure they pass the vibe check - Recfest UK 2026

    A CV is the one document where people are trusted to describe themselves, and it is also the one place they are most careful to leave things out. Not the boring things. The real ones. The cricket obsession, the makeup expertise, the 28 years of martial arts, the nails they already know will invite an assumption before they have said a word. We put a single question to people across the industry: what is something about you that would never show up on a CV? The answers were funnier, sharper and more honest than any competency framework, and they all pointed at the same quiet truth. People are holding back the best parts of themselves until they can tell whether an employer is safe enough to show them to. What you'll learn  → Why the most revealing thing about a candidate is usually the thing they deliberately keep off the page  → How bias shapes what people feel able to disclose, from nails to makeup to culture to identity  → What a "vibe check" is, and why candidates now run one on employers before they open up  → Why personality, curiosity and how someone actually thinks are almost impossible to evidence on paper  → The real career cost of never having a place to say what you are genuinely good at FEATURING:  - Dami Ruth Anibaba (BIC)  - https://www.linkedin.com/in/damianibaba/ - Amandi Mendis (Hilton) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandi-mendis-7a86aa330/ - Wes Stanford (Center Parks)  - https://www.linkedin.com/in/wes-stanford/ - Matthew Best (Willo) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-best-112a7821/?skipRedirect=true - Kabeer Ghale (Devonshire)  - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kabeerghale/?skipRedirect=true - Steve Ward (Branding Club) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/steveward-eb/ - Jade Olanrewaju (Songtradr) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jade-loren-olanrewaju-3a6a95b3/?skipRedirect=true - Sanah Shah (SCS Railways) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanahshah/ - Molly Farnham (SCS Railways) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/molly-farnham-2a0057157/ YOUR HOST: Anita Chauhan https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/ LISTEN & FOLLOW:  https://looksgoodonpaper.buzzsprout.com/ and https://www.youtube.com/@looksgoodonpaperpodcast POWERED BY WILLO: https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper CONNECT WITH US: https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893 If this one made you rethink how you read a CV, share it with someone who hires, and follow the show so you never miss an episode. This episode of Looks Good on Paper explores what candidates leave off their CVs and why, covering hiring bias, candidate self-disclosure, the limits of CV-first screening, and how employers can build enough trust for people to show up as themselves. It is a practical listen for talent leaders, recruiters and hiring managers rethinking CV-first hiring. Show Resources Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host

    Make sure they pass the vibe check - Recfest UK 2026
  3. Jul 15

    We show up at work as our full selves. CVs won't let us.

    We took a camera around RecFest 2026 and asked one question over and over: what's something about yourself that would never show up on a CV? We got a singer. A horse rider. Someone who runs mountain ultras. A former professional bodybuilder. Someone who grows fruit and vegetables. Someone who is, in their own words, expert at crawling around on the floor with their one-year-old. And then, from the hiring side of the fence, we got this: I would hire people who are intensely curious, because they're the people who learn best, but I can never see that on a CV without having a conversation. Which is the whole problem in one breath. The trait hiring leaders want most is the trait candidates are trained to leave off. Both sides of the market are reaching for the same thing and the paper is in the way. This is the RecFest Edition supercut, recorded live inside Willo World, and it opens the new season. What you'll learn - Why the trait hiring leaders want most is the one candidates hide - What people actually say when you ask them a better question - Why personality, working style and motivation don't survive the page - How a shy candidate becomes the most interesting person in the room, four questions in - What changes when the conversation comes before the filter GUEST Recorded live at RecFest 2026 with Will Mason-Jebb (Connectr), Junead Zaman (Caraffi), Kanwar Kholi (Booking.com), Christina Messaritaki (Yodeck), Dan Hackett (Amazon), Hannah Crawford (Tribepad), Ines Castro (Tribepad), Paula Ryan (Primark), and Daen Fox on the field YOUR HOST Anita Chauhan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/ LISTEN & FOLLOW https://looksgoodonpaper.buzzsprout.com/ POWERED BY WILLO https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper CONNECT WITH US https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893 https://www.youtube.com/@looksgoodonpaperpodcast If this one made you think about your own hiring process, share it with the person who runs it. Looks Good on Paper is a hiring and careers podcast hosted by Anita Chauhan and powered by Willo. In this RecFest 2026 special, recorded live inside the Willo World activation, talent leaders and recruiters from Amazon, Booking.com, Primark, Tribepad, Connectr, Caraffi and Yodeck answer one question: what would never show up on your CV? The answers reveal why intense curiosity, personality, working style and motivation are the traits hiring leaders say they want most and the traits the CV is least able to carry. Show Resources Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host

    We show up at work as our full selves. CVs won't let us.
  4. Jul 8

    The CV is the global currency for jobs. And it's fundamentally flawed.

    There is almost no business process on earth that works the same way in every country. Payroll differs. Contracts differ. Even the working week differs. But post a job anywhere in the world, and the price of entry is identical: hand over a CV. In this episode, Willo co-founder and CEO Euan Cameron, in the guest chair for the first time in three seasons, makes the case that hiring's only truly global convention is also its most broken one. He tells the real founding story behind Willo: what it's like to be dyslexic in a hiring process built entirely around text, and the moment he realized millions of candidates were being filtered out by a format, not by their ability. From there, the conversation gets practical and pointed: the single biggest hiring mistake companies keep making, the bias that survives even inside proudly progressive teams, what six years of running a company that has never once asked for a CV actually looks like, and what changes first, and slowest, when an enterprise hiring team finally starts reading signal instead of paper. What you'll learn: → The founding story: how being dyslexic in a text-based hiring world became the reason Willo exists → Why past experience is the weakest predictor hiring teams still treat as the strongest → The "safe bet" bias that quietly survives inside even the most progressive companies → What actually breaks, and what quietly just works, when you remove the CV from your process completely → How Willo Insights turns overwhelming candidate volume into evidence, so the right person never slips through for being quiet GUEST Euan Cameron, Co-founder & CEO, Willo https://uk.linkedin.com/in/euanacameron YOUR HOST Anita Chauhan https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/ LISTEN & FOLLOW Buzzsprout: https://looksgoodonpaper.buzzsprout.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@looksgoodonpaperpodcast POWERED BY WILLO https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper CONNECT WITH US Willo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893 If this episode changed how you think about a single step in your hiring process, send it to the person who owns that step, and follow the show so the rest of Season 3 finds you. Looks Good on Paper is a hiring and careers podcast hosted by Anita Chauhan and powered by Willo. In this episode, Willo co-founder and CEO Euan Cameron explains why the CV functions as a flawed global currency for jobs, why relying on past experience is the biggest mistake in modern hiring, which hidden biases persist inside progressive companies, and how Willo Insights helps enterprise hiring teams evaluate every candidate at scale using evidence instead of resumes. Show Resources Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host

    The CV is the global currency for jobs. And it's fundamentally flawed.
  5. Jun 24

    Athletes try out. Why don't your candidates?

    Every athlete who makes a team has to prove they can play. They run drills. They scrimmage. They perform under pressure while someone watches. But in hiring, we skip all of that. We scan a resume for six seconds, run a few conversations, and make a six-figure investment based on how someone talks about work they've done, not whether they can actually do the work in front of them. The companies still making this mistake aren't doing it because they don't know better. They're doing it because their entire process was designed around a different era of work, and most of them haven't audited it since AI started changing what "job-ready" actually means. Alan Boyer has been on both sides of this problem for decades. He's a former CMO and senior marketing executive at AT&T, Coca-Cola, and Equifax, a management professor and curriculum architect, and the founder of iThrive Learning Architects. His work sits at the intersection of corporate leadership development and higher education, focused on building the human capabilities that AI cannot replicate. In this episode of Looks Good on Paper, he breaks down why hiring is still built around conversation instead of demonstration, what human skills are emerging above traditional soft skills, and why the gap between graduate readiness and employer expectations is getting wider, not smaller. What you'll learn: why hiring based on conversational performance instead of job performance produces high washout rates, the executive referral bias that nobody talks about and why it puts hiring managers in an impossible position, why "teaching with AI is not the same as working with AI" and what that means for screening, what human capabilities are emerging above soft skills including cognitive power, systems intelligence, and global fluency, and how the gap between what job descriptions promise and what day one actually looks like is setting candidates up to fail. GUEST  Alan Boyer — Founder, iThrive Learning Architects  LinkedIn -> [GUEST LINKEDIN URL] YOUR HOST  Anita Chauhan — Host, Looks Good on Paper  LinkedIn -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/ In this episode:  0:00 Introduction  0:55 Alan's background across Fortune 500s and higher education  1:59 The biggest hiring mistake: relying on a broken process  2:26 The tryout analogy: why athletes perform but candidates just talk  3:11 AI is accelerating work and companies aren't keeping up  4:52 Where performance-based screening actually happens today  5:56 Human capabilities above soft skills: what AI can't automate  7:30 Hidden biases: cultural, regional, school, brand, and executive referral  8:15 What happens when a C-suite referral skips the process  10:07 What hiring looks like without CVs: chaos or clarity?  11:20 The resume isn't the villain. The process around it is.  12:36 How early careers candidates actually get seen  13:36 Graduate readiness: why companies say new hires aren't ready  14:53 Hiring doesn't stop after the contract is signed  16:12 Quick tips for screening early careers hires LISTEN & FOLLOW  Spotify -> https://open.spotify.com/show/0dbfz6y0tMq3crViHQD66H Apple Podcasts -> https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1625835562 All episodes -> https://looksgoodonpaper.buzzsprout.com POWERED BY WILLO  Hire humans, not resumes -> https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper CONNECT WITH US  LinkedIn -> https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893 If this episode changed how you think about hiring, share it with one person who needs to hear it. Most hiring processes evaluate candidates based on how well they present in conversation, not on whether they can perform the actual work the role requires. Performance-based hiring, where candidates demonstrate capability through structured tasks and real scenarios, consistently produces stronger hires and lower turnover than resume screening and behavioural interviews alone. As AI accelerates the pace of work, the human capabilities that matter most, including cognitive power, systems intelligence, and the ability to adapt to ambiguity, are not the same as the soft skills companies have traditionally screened for, and most hiring processes have not been updated to reflect the difference. Show Resources Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host

    Athletes try out. Why don't your candidates?
  6. Jun 17

    The 24-Hour Promise

    The average time to hire in 2026 is 44 days. Taylor Genre's team at Beemac Logistics gives every sales candidate a final answer within 24 hours. Taylor is the Director of Recruiting and Marketing at Beemac Logistics, a multimodal transport and logistics provider based in Pittsburgh. She came into logistics recruiting from roles at ePeople, Healthcare, and ADP. In this episode, she breaks down why not paying people what they're worth is the most expensive hiring mistake companies keep making and how the cost compounds through turnover, onboarding, and lost trust. She names the bias hiding inside the word "overqualified" and how quickly it becomes ageism when you don't have the conversation. And she walks through exactly what had to change inside Beemac for the 24-Hour Promise to work: it wasn't the recruiting team that needed to shift, it was the hiring managers. GUEST Taylor Genre, Director of Recruiting and Marketing, Beemac Logistics https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylor-genre-95935b14a/ YOUR HOST Anita Chauhan, Host, Looks Good on Paper https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/ LISTEN & FOLLOW Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/looks-good-on-paper/id1625835562 All episodes → https://looksgoodonpaper.buzzsprout.com WATCH ON YOUTUBE → https://youtu.be/WR2j0lc4dG8 POWERED BY WILLO Hire humans, not resumes. https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper CONNECT WITH US LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893 If this episode made you think, share it with one person who hires people. And subscribe — we're rewriting the rules of hiring, one episode at a time. If this episode made you think, share it with one person who hires people. The average time to hire in 2026 has reached approximately 44 days, with 81% of hiring managers reporting decision-making paralysis when extending offers. Meanwhile, 61% of candidates accept the first offer they receive, meaning slow companies lose top candidates not to better offers but to faster ones. Organizations that have built alignment between recruiters and hiring managers on decision speed, salary transparency, and candidate communication are consistently outperforming on both offer acceptance and retention. Show Resources Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host

    The 24-Hour Promise
  7. Jun 9

    Stop Hiring Three Juniors When You Need One Senior.

    Startups love being scrappy. They love the hustle. And they keep making the same mistake with that energy: hiring three or four junior people when they should have hired one senior person. Not because junior talent isn't valuable but because without someone who has the reps, the strategy side falls apart and the execution side has nobody steering it. Jen Paxton is VP of People and Talent at Roofr, where she took the company from around 125 to 260 people. Roofr is her ninth startup. Before that, she co-founded Jamyr (acquired by Recruitics) and built people functions at Smile.io, Privy, LevelUp (acquired by GrubHub), TrueMotion, and more across the Boston tech ecosystem. She holds a master's in vocal performance from Boston Conservatory at Berklee. In this episode, she breaks down the seniority mistake startups keep making, the pedigree bias that drives comp decisions, a big-company horror story involving managers doing their own payroll onboarding, why her team still reviews every resume by hand, and the five-word question Boston TA leaders are using to catch ghost candidates. GUEST Jen Paxton, VP of People and Talent, Roofr https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenpaxton/ YOUR HOST Anita Chauhan, Host, Looks Good on Paper https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/ LISTEN & FOLLOW Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/looks-good-on-paper/id1625835562 All episodes → https://looksgoodonpaper.buzzsprout.com WATCH ON YOUTUBE → https://youtu.be/KEKYr6m32Yg POWERED BY WILLO Hire humans, not resumes. https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper CONNECT WITH US LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893 If this episode made you think, share it with one person who hires people. Startups frequently under-hire on seniority, bringing in multiple junior employees to fill a role that requires senior-level judgment and strategic capacity. The cost extends beyond salary: without experienced leadership, teams lack the ability to balance execution and strategy, context switching overwhelms less experienced hires, and retention suffers when people are placed in roles they are not yet equipped to succeed in. Companies continue to overpay for candidates from well-known brands while undervaluing proven capability from lesser-known organizations. As AI-generated applications flood hiring pipelines, talent acquisition teams face a verification crisis, with structured verification methods, referral networks, and manual review processes emerging as critical defenses against a system producing more noise than signal. Show Resources Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host

    Stop Hiring Three Juniors When You Need One Senior.
  8. Jun 3

    Your Best Hire Won't Look Good on Paper

    "Culture fit" sounds like a good thing until you look at what it actually filters for. People who look like you. People who sound like you. People who make you comfortable. It's not a hiring strategy. It's a survival instinct dressed up as one. Daen Fox has led talent acquisition across BT, Bupa, Nuffield Health, RICS, Saint-Gobain, and The Midcounties Co-operative. He's worked in insurance, retail, construction, healthcare, and leisure. He holds a master's in psychotherapy and now runs The Fox Consulting Collective, offering fractional TA leadership, employer brand advisory, and talent strategy consulting. In this episode, he breaks down why "culture fit" is the most persistent bias in hiring, what happened when he removed CVs from assessment centers and let managers evaluate candidates first, how he built a TA team by hiring from marketing and finance instead of recruiting from recruiting, why employer brand is a five-to-ten year investment that most companies still refuse to make, and why AI fluency is the signal he'd be screening for right now. GUEST Daen Fox, Freelance Talent Acquisition Leader, The Fox Consulting Collective https://www.linkedin.com/in/daenjafox/ YOUR HOST Anita Chauhan, Host, Looks Good on Paper https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/ LISTEN & FOLLOW Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/looks-good-on-paper/id1625835562 All episodes → https://looksgoodonpaper.buzzsprout.com WATCH ON YOUTUBE → https://youtu.be/WR2j0lc4dG8 POWERED BY WILLO Hire humans, not resumes. https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper CONNECT WITH US LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893 If this episode made you think, share it with one person who hires people. And subscribe — we're rewriting the rules of hiring, one episode at a time. If this episode made you think, share it with one person who hires people. "Culture fit" remains one of the most common and least examined phrases in hiring. Research shows that unstructured evaluations of cultural fit consistently encode unconscious bias, filtering for familiarity rather than capability. Organizations using structured, evidence-based hiring processes hire employees who perform better, stay longer, and are more demographically diverse. Assessment methods that remove resume review from the initial evaluation stage consistently surface candidates that hiring managers would not have selected from a CV alone. As AI reduces the signal value of the written resume, companies that invest in employer brand, structured assessment, and skills-based evaluation are building the infrastructure that will determine their ability to attract and retain talent over the next decade. Show Resources Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host

    Your Best Hire Won't Look Good on Paper

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Looks Good on Paper flips hiring on its head. Hosted by Andrew Wood and Anita Chauhan, we dive into why CVs and "perfect fits" are overrated. Through fun, insightful conversations with industry experts, we explore how skills, potential, and real experience should be the focus of hiring... not what looks good on paper. Quick, candid, and packed with actionable insights, we’re here to rewrite the rules of hiring, one episode at a time.