Just DAO It: A Podcast for People Starting DAOs

Adam Miller
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Just DAO It! is a podcast for people starting DAOs. Are you thinking about starting a DAO? Just DAO It! Every episode will cover recent DAO news, tweets, and posts from around the web. We’ll break down what the news means for you and combine it with great advice from people who have started or contributed to successful DAOs. Disclaimer: Just DAO It! is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Just DAO It does **not** contain any legal or financial advice. MIDAO also does not provide legal or financial advice, and nor does your host, yours truly. Just DAO It! is hosted by Adam Miller, the founder of MIDAO, the company that provides legal entities for DAOs.

  1. Jul 27

    Preventing DAO Governance Attacks + Building a Music DAO and AI Agent Legal Entities (with Zaal / Better Call Zaal)

    Preventing DAO Governance Attacks + Building a Music DAO and AI Agent Legal Entities (with Zaal / Better Call Zaal) Adam Miller hosts Just DAO It and interviews Zaal (“Better Call Zaal”), founder of the ZAO, an on-chain music community incubator aiming to return profit-margin data and IP rights to independent artists. They discuss BonqDAO’s low-turnout governance “apathy attack” and mitigations like security councils, timelocks, and ZAO’s illiquid, soulbound “respect” governance tokens with extended voting/veto periods. The episode covers ENS’s newly adopted security council, Cardano and Solana governance updates, MetaDAO’s ownership coins and futarchy, Lido’s restructuring, and Arbitrum revenue sharing. Regulatory news includes the U.S. CLARITY Act ethics dispute and SEC safe-harbor proposals. In AI agent news, Adam critiques early agent hype and highlights emerging legal structures (Marshall Islands, Delaware draft, Bermuda). Zaal explains ZAO’s reputation-based governance, Wave Wars live-traded music battles that pay artists, upcoming ZAOstock in Maine, and plans for a community-weighted AI agent (“XOL/Zol Bot”) to manage funds via a legal entity. 00:00 Welcome and Introductions01:11 BonqDAO Governance Attack03:11 ZAO Defense Mechanisms04:43 ENS Security Council Update07:10 Governance Rapid Fire11:58 Regulatory CLARITY Act14:17 AI Agent News and Reality Check19:03 Break and MIDAO Guide19:47 Zaal Origin Story21:21 Why Blockchain Matters23:43 Inside the ZAO Respect System25:32 Reputation Voting Challenges30:10 Progress and Community Metrics31:46 Wave Wars Explained35:24 ZAO Festivals and ZAOstock37:06 AI Agent Legal Entity Plans40:01 Where to Find Zaal and Wrap Up Contact / Links:Zaal (Farcaster): zaalZaal (X): @bettercallzaalZaal (Email): info@thezao.comWave Wars: https://wavewarz.comAdam (X): @0xthrillerAdam (Farcaster): The ThrillerMIDAO (X): @MIDAODSMIDAO: https://midao.orgAI Agent incorporation guide: https://midao.org/guides

  2. Jul 10

    Just DAO It! with Alex Soto - Coordination Without Subordination

    In this episode of Just DAO It!, host Adam Miller (CEO of MIDAO) sits down with Alex Soto (@alexsotodigital), a Mexico-based governance facilitator and author of "The Minimum Viable Institution: A Lightweight Coordination Model for DAOs and Purpose-Driven Networks." In the news report, they break down: The ENS DAO "2026 governance crisis" — treasury fights, resignations, and whether founder voting power amounts to a vetoThe Ethereum Foundation's major reorg, layoffs, and shift toward EthLabs and a multi-org ecosystemRegulatory updates: the U.S. CLARITY Act and its "ethics clause," Europe's MiCA deadline, USDT vs. USDC compliance, and evolving SEC decentralization rulesIn the interview, Alex shares his vision for the future of DAOs: Why good governance shouldn't require a benevolent founder — it should be designed to constrain powerThe critical difference between governance/meta-governance and day-to-day operationsSeparating capital from governance power ("raise money without giving power away")Role-based models, sociocracy, and holacracy as battle-tested alternatives to token votingWhy he doesn't believe in progressive decentralization — start small and decentralized, then growThe role of AI agents and smart contracts in maintaining coordination, accountability, and institutional memoryA wide-ranging conversation on coordination without subordination, capture resistance, and why "DAOs aren't dead — they haven't even arrived yet." Alex helps mission-driven organizations turn coordination challenges, disagreement, and distributed work into governance systems, shared practices, clearer decisions, and institutional learning loops. Find Alex: @alexsotodigital on all platforms | alexsotodigital.eth.limoFind MIDAO: @midaods | midao.org Disclaimer: Not legal or tax advice.

  3. Jun 24

    Just DAO It! with Kenny from poidh

    Just DAO It | Ep. 2 — Kenny from poidh.xyz on Bounties, DAOs & AI Agents Adam Miller (CEO of MIDAO) sits down with Kenny, founder of Pics or It Didn't Happen (poidh) — a permissionless bounty protocol the enables "ephemeral DAOs.” They break down the biggest crypto hacks of the past few months, the state of crypto regulation in the US and Europe, the reality of AI agents transacting on-chain, and why Kenny thinks the DAO model has been wrong from the start. Chapters:0:00 — Intro & Welcome Back (first episode in over a year!)1:55 — News: Record-Breaking Crypto Hack Month ($600M+ lost in April)5:42 — The Kelp/LayerZero Attack Explained13:21 — The Trapdoor Campaign: AI Agents as Attack Vectors17:21 — US Crypto Regulation: Genius Act, Clarity Act & Open Source Immunity22:13 — MiCA in Europe: 85% of Firms Without a License28:04 — 400K AI Agents On-Chain: Impressive or Just Testing?37:16 — Interview: Kenny's Background & How He Got Into Crypto44:07 — Deep Dive: What Is POIDH and How Does It Work?48:05 — A Brief History of DAOs and Why They Failed56:00 — The "Atomic Unit" of a DAO: Objectives, Not Organizations1:03:24 — Progressive Decentralization & Token Strategy1:07:04 — Working With DAOs: The Haberdashery & Breaking a Kickflip World Record1:13:35 — Pump.fun Launches Bounties: What It Means for POIDH1:16:19 — The Big Vision: Online Communities Pooling Capital IRL1:16:47 — Where to Find Kenny & POIDH Links:* poidh: poidh.xyz* MIDAO: midao.org* Beta Briefing (AI news agent): betabriefing.ai* Kenny on X/Twitter: @KennyIsTyping | Farcaster: @Kenny* Adam on X/Twitter: @0xThriller | Farcaster: @TheThriller Not legal or financial advice.

  4. 02/19/2025

    Just DAO It! Interview with Puncar from How to DAO and MotherDAO

    This week's guests:On this week’s Just DAO It, we welcome guest Jan Brezina (Puncar), who recently released his book, How to DAO: Mastering the Future of Internet Coordination. Beyond drafting this book, he’s currently working on another DAO, MotherDAO, a decentralized network where AI agents work, govern, and grow. Puncar is truly a DAO OG, as he co-founded Bankless Consulting, the DAO Governance Collective, and Workout DAO, among other projects. We look forward to having this DAO expert on the podcast! Check out the book here:How to DAO: Mastering the Future of Internet Coordination: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/729257/how-to-dao-by-kevin-owocki-and-puncar-foreword-by-don-tapscott/  Find us on Socials:@PuncarH2D on Twitter@puncar on Farcaster@0xThriller on Twitter@thethriller on Farcaster @leohenkels on Twitter@leohenkels on Farcaster

    Just DAO It! Interview with Puncar from How to DAO and MotherDAO

  5. 12/19/2024

    Just DAO It! DAO News & Interview with Travis and Sam from DAOHaus

    This week's guests: On this week’s Just DAO It, we welcome guests Travis and Sam from DAOHaus, a no-code DAO launchpad built using the Moloch V3 governance toolkit. Beyond working together on DAOHaus, they’ve also helped build or contribute to: Yeeter, Bootleggers, Raid Guild, Meta Cartel, and RaidBrood, among other projects. Most recently, they’ve been experimenting at the intersection of DAOs and Farcaster, a sufficiently decentralized social network. Their current project is called Farcastles, and they’ve received a grant from the Octant Accelerator to continue developing it. We look forward to having these DAO experts on the podcast! Relevant Resources Mentioned in the Show: California Court Rules DAO Members Can Face Legal Liability as Business Partners BIO Protocol DAOs Get Backing From Binance Labs and Tarun Chitra on Twitter / X weighs in Decentralization Is Why We Fight for Crypto ICOs are back? Good Conversation Sparked Under This Tweet: Haseeb ＞|＜ on Twitter / X Aave DAO considers exiting Polygon after a proposed bridge Find us on Socials:@samskuhlmann on Twitter@samskuhlmann on Farcaster@earth2travis on Twitter@earth2travis on Farcaster@0xThriller on Twitter@thethriller on Farcaster @leohenkels on Twitter@leohenkels on Farcaster

    Just DAO It! DAO News & Interview with Travis and Sam from DAOHaus

  6. 10/03/2024

    Just DAO It! Lawyer Series: Featuring Tatyana Cerullo

    Introducing the Just DAO It Lawyer Series:On this episode, leading Marshall Islands DAO Lawyer Tatyana Cerullo and MIDAO Co-Founder Adam Miller sit down for a discussion about DAO legal issues, Tatyana's experience with DAOs, Operating Agreements for DAO LLCs, and a recent controversial post on X from Gabriel Shapiro Find us on Socials:@RMILawyer on Twitter@0xThriller on Twitter@thethriller on Farcaster @leohenkels on Twitter@leohenkels on Farcaster

    Just DAO It! Lawyer Series: Featuring Tatyana Cerullo

  7. 10/01/2024

    Just DAO It! DAO News & Interview with Anthony and Jessica from Aragon

    This week's guest:On this week’s Just DAO It, we welcome guests Anthony Leutenegger, CEO of Aragon, and Jessica Smith, Head of Communications at Aragon. Aragon is a no-code DAO platform that lets you launch a DAO. You can mint tokens, create a governance structure, and onboard your community from the same Dashboard. They've been one of the leading DAO tools in the space for several years now and have helped launch some of the most prominent DAOs in crypto. It's exciting to have these two esteemed guests join our stream! Relevant Resources Mentioned in the Show: Mango Markets Mull $500K CFTC Settlement Amid ‘Ongoing’ InvestigationSnapshot, Popular DAO Voting Platform, Finally Moves On-Chain, Atop StarknetAragon Unveils Gasless Voting On-ChainDAOs Need a Vibe Check - Compound Governance OverviewCrypto Governance is Slept On@votecaster Is the First GovernancePplatform for Farcaster-first DAOs Find us on Socials:@A_Leutenegger on Twitter@leuts.eth on Farcaster@heyjessicasmith on Twitter@heyjessicasmith on Farcaster @0xThriller on Twitter@thethriller on Farcaster @leohenkels on Twitter@leohenkels on Farcaster

    Just DAO It! DAO News & Interview with Anthony and Jessica from Aragon

  8. 08/14/2024

    Just DAO It! MIDAO Breaks Down the 2024 Marshall Islands DAO Regulation

    This week's guest:On this week’s Just DAO It, join Leo Henkels and Adam Miller from MIDAO as they break down the recent DAO Regulation passed in the Marshall Islands. They'll dive into what it means for Marshall Islands DAO LLCs and the regulatory landscape for DAOs in general! Tune in to learn more about the Marshall Islands and its relationship with DAOs! Relevant Resources Mentioned in the Show:RMI DAO Regulation: https://docsend.com/view/ku2747hgg4ean8b7 RMI DAO Legislation: https://docsend.com/view/duyb4848wvpkr5cw Balaji Podcast: https://thenetworkstate.com/episode/cryptoislands MIDAO Blog Page: https://www.midao.org/blog Find us on Socials: @leohenkels on Twitter @leohenkels on Farcaster @0xThriller on Twitter @thethriller on Farcaster @MIDAODS on Twitter @JustDAOItPod on Twitter @MIDAO on Farcaster

    Just DAO It! MIDAO Breaks Down the 2024 Marshall Islands DAO Regulation
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Just DAO It! is a podcast for people starting DAOs. Are you thinking about starting a DAO? Just DAO It! Every episode will cover recent DAO news, tweets, and posts from around the web. We’ll break down what the news means for you and combine it with great advice from people who have started or contributed to successful DAOs. Disclaimer: Just DAO It! is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Just DAO It does **not** contain any legal or financial advice. MIDAO also does not provide legal or financial advice, and nor does your host, yours truly. Just DAO It! is hosted by Adam Miller, the founder of MIDAO, the company that provides legal entities for DAOs.

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