Tub Talks by Secular Sabbath

Genevieve Medow-Jenkins
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Tub Talks is the podcast born out of the global community Secular Sabbath, directly sourced from the founder Genevieve Medow-Jenkins’ childhood at Esalen Institute, where she soaked in the hot springs with different characters from all walks of life and talked as the waves crashed against the rocks below. At first, Tub Talks existed exclusively at our event experiences, but now, Genevieve sits down in her tiny clawfoot outdoor bath with artists, collaborators, thinkers, friends, and family to talk about creativity, personal practices, philosophies on life, and why it’s worth living today. Every guest brings their own idiosyncratic awareness to their industries, navigating the fast-changing landscape of our cultures, and personal practices to maintain wellness. Through these conversations, we have come to know that there is something to learn from everyone, and we are able to access that even more deeply when we strip down together, and relax in the bath. Follow along for new episodes + new guests airing every other Tuesday. If you’d like to experience these environments we foster together, consider becoming a member of Secular Sabbath! Joining the inner circle is joining our family and committing to a Secular Sabbath practice. Secular Sabbath is traditionally celebrating a day of rest, albeit without a religious affiliation. Joining our family is making a promise to yourself to commit to growth and self-care with a group of people from all walks of life who are interested in finding that for themselves as well. This also gives you access to attend our events in person and online as well as opportunities to connect online and in conversation with teachers, students, artists, and collaborators. Membership unlocks musical artifacts, secret artist-curated playlists, and event experiences for you to experience from the comfort of your own home. To join Secular Sabbath membership, you can find us at secular-sabbath.com/membership. Joining grants you access to our Inner Circle community of sensory-exploring like-minded people, where you can gather with us locally in LA for monthly meet-up experiences, and pop-up events around the globe, and partake in our exclusive ambient online community. Ready to dive into the dialogue deeper? Join us on our Discord channel: https://discord.gg/9v9J8f6R See what we get up to at @secularsabbath: https://www.instagram.com/secularsabbath/

  1. 05/01/2025

    Tub Talks Featuring Ry X: Musician and Artist

    This week we soak with RY X, a multidisciplinary artist who creates from a place of raw vulnerability and reverence. Over the last decade, his music has traversed folk, electronic, orchestral, and ambient worlds—infused always with heart and soul. In the bath, he reflects on the early days in Berlin’s underground club scene, where he helped humanize electronic music by introducing soul and vocals into a genre that previously kept emotion at a distance. RY X describes the importance of living with emotional range—whether meditating, dancing in a cathedral, or raising his son River. We explore his upbringing on a permaculture farm in Australia with a yogi mother and poet father, how surfing and the ocean connect him to a deeper sense of self, and how personal liberation comes not from rebellion but from radical self-acceptance. He opens up about the intimate process of making art: the discipline required to finish a song, the quiet courage to keep creating without seeking external validation, and the beauty of building long-term collaborations with artists like Nina McNeely and Jasmine Albuquerque. He shares his devotion to integrating real feeling into everything he does—from scoring films about Indigenous land protection to creating ambient compositions for bodies in motion. Whether he's singing barefoot in a cathedral or crafting intimate videos with friends, RY X reminds us that true artistry isn’t performative—it’s deeply lived. Listen now to experience the depth behind the voice that has moved so many. To join Secular Sabbath membership, visit secular-sabbath.com/membership. Joining grants you access to our Inner Circle community of sensory-exploring like-minded people, where you can gather with us locally in LA for monthly meet-up experiences, pop-up events around the globe, and partake in our exclusive ambient online community. See what we’re up to: @secularsabbath Ready to dive deeper? Join us on Substack.

    1h 14m

  2. 02/29/2024

    Tub Talks Featuring Jacqueline Suskin: Writer, Poet, Educator

    Jacqueline Suskin is a writer, poet and educator now based in Detroit, Michigan. She has released many poetry books, two artistic creation books, and is now teaching young people in Detroit at the intersection of art and nature.  Yet the move to Detroit is recent. Only a little bit ago, she was stewarding art and a farm in northern California. Before that, Jacqueline was based in Los Angeles, where we met, when she was supporting herself with a made-up job she created called ‘Poem Store.’ Jacqueline describes Poem Store as an experiment. It was an experiment in which she would pull up at farmer’s markets and special events with her bike and a typewriter. Jacqueline would sit and let people come up to her and request a poem on a topic of their choosing, paying what felt right to them. “Your poem, your price,” she would say. As she tells her students now, “You can have a weird job that you make up.” She lives that truth. Simultaneously, Jacqueline was always writing long format pieces. She wrote for magazines. She wrote poetry books. And in the pandemic, Jacqueline released her first prose book: Every Day Is A Poem. This book encourages readers to write poems, as Jacqueline drops all of her personal practice into these pages, granting the reader access to every tool in her box.   In this bath, we dive into what goes into Jacqueline’s artistic practice and how to bring projects from start to finish. Jacqueline is wise and self-aware. She describes herself as a naturally born performer, identifying with performance from a young age. Being a performer, however, doesn’t mean always being in performance. In living in Detroit, the reality of people having basic needs is raw. In being in a landscape where everyone has to get their own things done, Jacqueline describes a natural balance of knowing when to be inward and when to be outward (when is performance-time and when is it not). Jacqueline believes that the intrinsic knowledge all exists within the seasons. Her latest book A Year In Practice delves into what practices resonate with the cycles of the earth, in order to create art and birth it into the world. Los Angeles taught her about the seasons, because of their subtlety. She urges us to witness how we are doing art with the earth, not ever alone. Therefore, in places like Los Angeles and even just living in a capitalist society, we have to fight for Winter. We have to fight to turn down, and fight to embrace the inward nature of winter. And there are practices for that.  “You don’t have to reinvent the wheel” is a sign that sits at her desk. Jacqueline suggests that there are carefully documented and practiced activities that so many incredible artists have done before us, and we can lean into their way of doing things. We are not losing our authenticity by using someone else’s methodology. "We don’t have to make this all up from scratch," Jacqueline says. And her most recent book distills these practices into something accessible. We hope you enjoy this conversation and her book!

    1h 25m

  3. 02/22/2024

    Tub Talks Featuring RHYE (Michael Milosh): Musician

    Michael Milosh (RHYE) is a lifelong musician from Toronto, Canada. He learned to play cello at 3 years old, having had a father who dedicated his life to teaching and playing music. RHYE is the musical project of Mike’s that has garnered the most worldwide success, but as I reveal in this bath, I have been listening to his music since I was 18, when I first heard his song ‘The City’ under the moniker, Milosh. In this bath, we uncover so much about how Mike makes music, why Mike makes music, and what music has unlocked in his life. Music is Mike’s journal entries - but he only writes about positive things, things that he wants to bring into the world. In this sense, music is also spiritual and he aligns it with his spiritual beliefs. Often, he has found that his lyrics reveal some truth that already exists underlyingly, or will come true. In this episode, we learn about his songwriting process, and where songs come from. For example, the most recent RHYE EP, Passing, is specifically a dedication to his father, who passed away from cancer in 2022. In writing this EP about loving his father, Mike felt it was important to digest grief in the only way he knew how: writing songs. Grief was something he felt he was not alone in, and album became birdsongs to whomever might be feeling loneliness their own experiences of loss.  We discuss loss and love in depth, speaking for the first time about our experience of being attacked online by his ex-wife, and how that has impacted our relationship and work. Mike shares about how we’ve deepened our understanding of radical self-reliance and how that plays into making art and putting it into the world. It is a story of resilience, and choosing to continue living a good life, in spite of what life throws at you. Mike talks about life and lemons, into lemonade.  This tub talks is a joy for me to share because I get to sit with someone I admire and know intimately. I am excited to share his heart with you. Welcome to our tub!

    1h 16m

  4. 02/13/2024

    Tub Talks featuring Chantel Jeffries

    In this Tub Talks, I get to soak in the unique wisdom of Chantel Jeffries. Chantel is known in the world for seemingly disparate things: being a DJ, investor, entrepreneur, and social media creator. She is simultaneously a mystery. However, this bathtub conversation is a treasure chest of knowledge that I’ve never heard her share before.   As we learn more about Chantel, we learn more about how interconnected all of these industries actually are. She articulates her multidisciplinary work approach as perceiving every ‘job’ as a fractal, in which all things are related to everything else. They all reflect each other. Chantel started out making videos, and then became one of the first people to get partnerships with companies like Revolve, Samsung, Uber, and Loreal as a brand ambassador. In experiencing how deals like these were done, Chantel realized there was more opportunity to be had. Investing in companies and then supporting them made sense, because she believed in the product, and her value add was multifaceted: capital, network, audience… Chantel compares work life to playing games like Zelda or King of Hearts as a teenager, in which the player would go on a quest and have to collect the jewels or find the tools to get to the goal. The journey is the game. And the journey is meant to be enjoyed. Chantel enjoys her life quest.  In this episode, she shows us about her unorthodox approach to success and how our success can be limitless too. Chantel grew up in a military family, in which she learned the value of discipline and hard work. With these values instilled in her, Chantel shows us how taking risks aren’t really risks because if you put hard work into anything, something will give. Chantel worked hard even as a young person, creating jobs for herself from the beginning. At 14, on the day she could get a job, she walked down the street and started at Arbys. Before that, Chantel did everything from babysitting, to washing cars and cat sitting for neighbors, to reselling her friends’ old phones on Ebay: hustling. Chantel has never been afraid to work hard. Now, she doesn’t have to work so hard. She tells us about how to create systems and become the engineer of our lives. This approach requires thought. It requires mindfulness. It requires strategy. This approach offsets chaos and pressure. “There are infinite ways to do things,” Chantel shares, “How can I have the most enjoyment while doing them?” Chantel is also not afraid to be authentically herself. In a sense, she is as she always has been. She tells us about rediscovering her old Macbook, in which photobooth she found the archive of videos she made from age 16 to 21. In these videos, Chantel would make videos (VLOGS) for her friends, and then answer questions from people on Tumblr, just for fun. Her life now and her hobbies now, are an extension of that joy. She keeps hobbies like tennis, golf, and rollerblading. She likes the aesthetic things in life and lives her life as if it were a hobby in itself: health is a hobby, figuring out equations is a hobby, decorating her house is a hobby… You get the picture. Chantel defines herself as curious and full of energy, and these hobbies definitely demonstrate that. There is an incredible opportunity in listening to this conversation, and understanding the approach of someone who seems to ‘have it all’ and whose life may look like it came easy. It looks easy because Chantel has worked hard and made mindful and intelligent decisions. Her life approach is innovative. I hope you are as inspired by this conversation as I was. Soak it in!

    59 min
  5. Tub Talks Featuring Raquelle Stevens: Bestselling Author, Film Producer, and Educator

    02/06/2024

    Tub Talks Featuring Raquelle Stevens: Bestselling Author, Film Producer, and Educator

    At 18 years old, Raquelle Stevens came to Los Angeles on a whim. Her family was moving from Chicago, and she felt called to take the risk alongside them, understanding that what is beyond our comfort zone is often what is good for us.  Raquelle’s story is one of following the signs. It begins with a good side-of-the-road car cry on Highland, in which she prayed, “God, if this is where I am meant to be, I pray that I would make the best friends I’ve made in my entire life and that you would make it really clear. And I’m going to give it one year, or I’m moving back to Chicago.” Shortly after, those friends appeared.  She had set out to do journalism, studying in Chicago and transferring to a Los Angeles college. However, Raquelle quickly realized that her life was taking a different path, in which she would do things that shed light in big ways. It was a vague destination, but a clear signal. And, fast forward to now, she has. A great example is the bestselling book Raquelle wrote with Tanya Rad: The Sunshine Mind. The Sunshine Mind was born out of the pain they witnessed people experience in the pandemic. Together, they shared their wisdom in relationships, in faith, in overcoming low self-esteem and loneliness. Their aim was to give people courage. The Sunshine Mind’s underlying message is that there is more light in the world than darkness. There is more good in the world than bad.  Raquelle breaks down the process of writing a book, and the vulnerability within it as she shares personal stories of hope and overcoming adversity. Vulnerability plays into all of Raquelle’s work, as she shares about the process of making My Mind And Me, the Apple+ Selena Gomez documentary which Raquelle produced and starred in. In all of the ways that Raquelle grants people access into her world, there is a dash of vulnerability, because it is a one-way window into her real life and real friendships. She does this in the hopes to share the wisdom that we can change the world with how we love. Raquelle explains how love begins with patience, and she demonstrates this truth in how she moves through the world, as you will hear in this episode. I hope you enjoy our time in the tub together!   This episode is brought to you by Fractal Forest. Fractal Forest is an Earth-Tek research collective restoring meaningful connection between humanity and the Earth. I wanted to share how I personally use FRACTAL FOREST products. Their shilajit drops help with my focus and energy levels. I’m someone who often wakes up with a burst of energy, which gradually wanes as the day goes on. I have noticed a change in my energy and ability to focus since I started implementing Fractal Forest Shilajit drops into my daily routine. I think what makes Fractal Forest so special is that they use only earth elements in their formulation process: this means No synthetic additives or preservatives are included and it shows - the sensation is pure, the plant is pure! Whether I’m drinking the blue lotus tea, or imbibing drops of dream state, shilajit, these herbs enhance my experience of life. You can use our code SABBATH22 to receive a 22% discount on your next order. We look forward to seeing how it enhances your overall health too! To join Secular Sabbath membership, you can find us at secular-sabbath.com/membership. Joining grants you access to our Inner Circle community of sensory-exploring like-minded people, where you can gather with us locally in LA for monthly meet-up experiences, and pop-up events around the globe, and partake in our exclusive ambient online community.  Ready to dive into the dialogue deeper? Join us on our Discord channel. See what we get up to at  @secularsabbath

    46 min
  6. Tub Talks Featuring Illangelo: Music Producer, Carlo Montagnese

    01/31/2024

    Tub Talks Featuring Illangelo: Music Producer, Carlo Montagnese

    Carlo Montagnese, known in the music industry as Illangelo, has been exploring his musical landscape since childhood. He is best known for his work with the Weeknd in creating The Trilogy, and songs like “The Hills” which has accrued billions of streams. Hitting major mainstream professional success relatively young, Carlo moved to LA from Canada to continue collaborating with interesting artists. However, a good life in LA didn’t come easy. He describes the beginning as a ‘disaster,’ when he had been hyperfocused on the goal of ‘making it’ in Hollywood. Yet, it was while living in Los Angeles that Carlo deepened his relationship to nature, the earth, and spirituality. Carlo believes it takes three to four years to drop into a culture of a place. Eventually in LA, he found his people, his friendships: deeper connections. It was through exploring different dietary options and ultimately the film Game Changers, that Carlo committed to a life of veganism, and active care for all life forms. Through an initial 10 day silent Vipassana meditation retreat in Joshua Tree, Carlo connected to the importance of breath, and his physical body.  In Tub Talks, Carlo shares about this journey into living a life in alignment with the earth across self care, creativity in music, and integrating technologies of the future. We can learn from Carlo about cryptocurrency, AI, music, spirituality, and creativity. Most significantly, he shows us how they intersect and blossom together. Carlo sees cryptocurrency as the future. He impresses upon us how we need to have a more secure financial system, and that is possible through the blockchain. We have access to storage of value, and that means having access to our finances. Financial freedom is in alignment with creative freedom. Carlo describes why cryptocurrency can be successful, but cautions behaviors that lean on ‘get rich quick’ schemes.  Carlo looks at 'storages of value' across different genres of life. He not only warns about ‘get rich quick’ schemes in crypto, but also in popular music, and health and wellness. A way of shifting that desire could be utilizing his idea of observation as a way of being. Carlo says that his life has shifted into a state of ‘observation’ in opposition to manifesting. This life shift includes having moved to Miami, surrounding himself with good people, creating his own music, spending more time with family, and playing games. There is much wisdom  from the way Carlo moves authentically through life, and there are many nuggets of information shared in this bath. Perhaps this is the first bath in his life, as we quickly learn when we start soaking, and you will too. Soak it up!

    59 min
  7. Tub Talks featuring Orville Peck: Country Music Artist

    01/23/2024

    Tub Talks featuring Orville Peck: Country Music Artist

    Today we're diving into the remarkable journey of Orville Peck, who is best known as a one-of-a-kind country artist who's been captivating hearts with his soulful music and creative, inclusive spirit. Our story with Orville begins with an unexpected connection that occurred during the heart of the pandemic. He and Genevieve met via Diplo at Joshua Tree Acres, where Secular Sabbath holds the annual May retreat. Peck remembers this experience well, as his music is often inspired by the desert, specifically the hauntingly beautiful Joshua Tree landscape. This environment has become a source of solace for Orville, reminding him of his South African homeland. Even though he had moved to California a decade ago, the desert's solitude and stark beauty struck a chord in him connecting him back to his roots.  Life outside of South Africa meant dealing with the challenges of being an immigrant and navigating cultures far different from his upbringing. Yet, he has always embraced ‘an escapist personality,’ throwing himself into a world of music. Orville's musical journey has taken him through various genres. He even toured with punk bands, reminiscing here about the days of driving 13 hours with drums in his lap, playing at empty bars, and crashing on people's floors. These, he reflects, have been some of the happiest days of his life. Orville's unique voice and deep love for music led him to explore classical British theater training, where he discovered a truly distinctive low voice. He decided to weave country music with avant-garde elements, pulling inspiration from David Bowie and seeing how that perspective could apply to country music. Orville’s blend of musical influence and knowledge is diverse, and it is reflected in his songs. He educates us on how country music comes from around the world, such as the banjo being brought into play by slaves, fiddles from Irish farmers, inspiration from gospel, and Mexican cowboy culture. He reveals the deep worldly history of country music. Yet, Orville has faced resistance and criticism from country culture, questioning his authenticity as a country artist. The notion that country music is reserved for a certain type of person hasn’t detered him. Orville describes himself as a classic country artist. However, his music has reached mainstream culture, with songs like ‘Dead At Night,” featured on the hit show "Euphoria." He shares the history of where this song came from, touching back on the loneliness he experienced in his sexual identity within straight punk community. However, Orville didn't set out to intertwine his sexuality with his music. He dislikes the label of "queer country.” The podcast episode delves into Orville's experiences with friendships, his late entry into queer communities, and how these connections not only made him feel more accepted, but also boosted his confidence in embracing his uniqueness. He's learned to collaborate with others and appreciates how his career has allowed him to support both himself and his family, and grow beyond his wildest dreams. Orville Peck's journey is a testament to the power of staying true to yourself and pushing boundaries, regardless of the challenges and expectations you might face. It's a story of artistry, authenticity, and the strength to continue to follow one's own path. Enjoy!

    1 hr
  8. Tub Talks featuring Pablo Piekar: Esalen Massage Therapist + Executive Coach

    01/16/2024

    Tub Talks featuring Pablo Piekar: Esalen Massage Therapist + Executive Coach

    In this podcast episode, Pablo and I dive into his history with Esalen Institute and beyond. Pablo Piekar came to Esalen Institute in the late 1980’s for what was supposed-to-be a Gestalt workscholar month. He ended up staying there for 16 years, working as a Esalen Massage Therapist and workshop facilitator. Back in Argentina, he was a licensed psychotherapist at 22 years old. But when he arrived at Esalen, someone told him he was going to heal people with his hands instead, and that he was going to teach people how to give massages. When he said he didn't know how, she said to him, “You don’t teach technique, you teach love.” Pablo went on to practice and teach Esalen Massage around the world, starting on the land itself, but traveling as far as Japan to share this technique. At Esalen, he found community. He found purpose. He met his wife. It was all going until Pablo injured his wrist. In this moment, his body told him he needed to leave and use his brain again - use his intellect. He shares how the body reveals the deeper truth, whether you want to hear it or not. It was really hard to leave the womb of Esalen, where everything was provided for him: from three meals a day, to community and comfort. He refers to Esalen as ‘Mama Esalen,’ a safe place to hold onto. Pablo shares that Esalen is a community, in which people get really close to each other. And when you are coming from a place of authenticity, conflict arises with others. He talks the spirit of Esalen, about how getting naked is not just about removing the clothes but in a symbolic way, it’s about opening up to your authentic self. He impresses the importance of honoring and loving your body today as it's the best body you have today. He urges us not to compare it to others. "Support your authenticity," he says, "That is the spirit of Esalen." We talk about the preschool named Gazebo, that was formulated under the principles of Gestalt in which the kids are allowed to fight. The kids come out of the fights much closer, and my childhood best friend and I are prime examples. When Pablo left Esalen after his injury, he wanted to incorporate these wisdoms into advising businesses. However, he didn’t have the business languaging. He moved to Santa Cruz and got his masters on organizational behavior, which is the behavior of science applied to business environments. In this conversation, he shares about how his education at Esalen directly applies to his executive coaching clients. In this conversation, we meander through philosophies of Esalen, the history of Esalen, and how to live and share a life of meaning. Pablo left Esalen many years ago and returned to Argentina to live with his family, where he advises businesses on how to function better with a background in psychotherapy, gestalt, and bodywork. In the bath, he shares about how his wife and him met at Esalen, how they transitioned into the outside world and grew their family in a multicultural and mindful way. We hope you enjoy getting to know Pablo Piekar.   This episode is brought to you by Fractal Forest. Fractal Forest is an Earth-Tek research collective restoring meaningful connection between humanity and the Earth. I wanted to share how I personally use FRACTAL FOREST products. Their shilajit drops help with my focus and energy levels. I’m someone who often wakes up with a burst of energy, which gradually wanes as the day goes on. I have noticed a change in my energy and ability to focus since I started implementing Fractal Forest Shilajit drops into my daily routine. I think what makes Fractal Forest so special is that they use only earth elements in their formulation process: this means No synthetic additives or preservatives are included and it shows - the sensation is pure, the plant is pure! Whether I’m drinking the blue lotus tea, or imbibing drops of dream state, shilajit, these herbs enhance my experience of life. You can use our code SABBATH22 to receive a 22% discount on your next order. We look forward to seeing how it enhances your overall health too! To join Secular Sabbath membership, you can find us at secular-sabbath.com/membership. Joining grants you access to our Inner Circle community of sensory-exploring like-minded people, where you can gather with us locally in LA for monthly meet-up experiences, and pop-up events around the globe, and partake in our exclusive ambient online community.  Ready to dive into the dialogue deeper? Join us on our Discord channel. See what we get up to at  @secularsabbath

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Tub Talks is the podcast born out of the global community Secular Sabbath, directly sourced from the founder Genevieve Medow-Jenkins’ childhood at Esalen Institute, where she soaked in the hot springs with different characters from all walks of life and talked as the waves crashed against the rocks below. At first, Tub Talks existed exclusively at our event experiences, but now, Genevieve sits down in her tiny clawfoot outdoor bath with artists, collaborators, thinkers, friends, and family to talk about creativity, personal practices, philosophies on life, and why it’s worth living today. Every guest brings their own idiosyncratic awareness to their industries, navigating the fast-changing landscape of our cultures, and personal practices to maintain wellness. Through these conversations, we have come to know that there is something to learn from everyone, and we are able to access that even more deeply when we strip down together, and relax in the bath. Follow along for new episodes + new guests airing every other Tuesday. If you’d like to experience these environments we foster together, consider becoming a member of Secular Sabbath! Joining the inner circle is joining our family and committing to a Secular Sabbath practice. Secular Sabbath is traditionally celebrating a day of rest, albeit without a religious affiliation. Joining our family is making a promise to yourself to commit to growth and self-care with a group of people from all walks of life who are interested in finding that for themselves as well. This also gives you access to attend our events in person and online as well as opportunities to connect online and in conversation with teachers, students, artists, and collaborators. Membership unlocks musical artifacts, secret artist-curated playlists, and event experiences for you to experience from the comfort of your own home. To join Secular Sabbath membership, you can find us at secular-sabbath.com/membership. Joining grants you access to our Inner Circle community of sensory-exploring like-minded people, where you can gather with us locally in LA for monthly meet-up experiences, and pop-up events around the globe, and partake in our exclusive ambient online community. Ready to dive into the dialogue deeper? Join us on our Discord channel: https://discord.gg/9v9J8f6R See what we get up to at @secularsabbath: https://www.instagram.com/secularsabbath/

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  • Creator
    Genevieve Medow-Jenkins
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2025
  • Episodes
    30
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2022 - Tub Talks by Secular Sabbath
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