Lead with a dash of Play

Mary Hendra

Looking to build innovation, strengthen organizational culture, and develop greater confidence? Try play. Seriously. Play builds empathy, sparks creativity, and allows deeper reflection and learning. Why would we not integrate it into our workday? Speaking with CEOs, executive coaches, and leaders across a variety of industries, Mary Hendra explores what “play” can look like in professional spaces, its impact on us and our organizations, and how to integrate a little play ourselves to build more compassionate and creative workplaces.

  1. 08/25/2025

    Season 4: Playing at Work

    Do you play at work? Jacqueline Lloyd Smith does. As Founder of Strategic Play® Global and a Master Trainer in LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY® Methods, play is critical to achieving the serious outcomes she gets for companies. But it’s more than that. Given the high disengagement rates of workers these days, play could well be what humanity needs. Hear her stories about facilitating with bricks, the oppression of play in Western culture, and the power of getting back in touch with how you played as a kid. Guest Bio: Jacqueline Lloyd Smith Founder of Strategic Play® Global Jacquie has over twenty years of experience facilitating critical problem-solving sessions for organizational clients that include Adidas, NASA, Procter & Gamble and the United Nations. Jacquie’s credentials include a Master's in Conflict Analysis and Management, an MBA in Executive Management from Royal Roads University, and certifications as an Art and Play Therapist, Visual Coach, and Creative Problem Solver. She is also one of only four original global master trainers with LEGO® Systems Group and a certified facilitator and trainer of facilitators in LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY® methods.  “The true, true opposite of play is fear.” “To be able to be really full of joy, we have to be able to play.” The 30 Circles activity noted during the podcast is one of three creative exercises described here: https://hbr.org/2013/11/three-creativity-challenges-from-ideos-leaders

    38 min
  2. 07/28/2025

    Season 4: The Play of Appreciative Inquiry

    Jackie Stavros and Cheri Torres, authors of “Conversations Worth Having: Using Appreciative Inquiry to Fuel Productive and Meaningful Engagement,” draw connections between the practice of Appreciative Inquiry (AI), and approaching work - and conversations - with a sense of play. This type of AI invites curiosity, storytelling, imagination, and a tuning in to those around us. That’s a lot of play! Explore the book and course here: https://www.conversationsworthhaving.today/  30% discount on the course for Lead with a dash of Play listeners. Use code: LEADWITHPLAY And the game, Shift This!, here: https://www.conversationsworthhaving.today/shift-this  Guest Bio: Jackie Stavros Jackie Stavros, DM is co-founder of CWH Institute, Inc and professor and management consultant in the College of Business and Information Technology at Lawrence Technological University. She has worked across all sectors and in over 25 countries using Appreciative Inquiry (AI) to affect the lives of thousands of people and hundreds of organizations improve capacity to thrive and increase performance. Her research is grounded in the AI, neuroscience, and positive psychology to help others understand how their conversations influence their wellbeing and ability to succeed.  Guest Bio: Cheri Torres   Cheri Torres, PhD, co-founder and executive officer for CWH Institute Inc, where she helps individuals, teams, and entire systems unlock their potential through the power of communication. With decades of experience in education, business, and community development, Cheri specializes in professional development and whole-system culture change using Appreciative Inquiry—one of the most widely adopted approaches for positive transformation. Cheri and Jackie coauthored “Conversations Worth Having: Using Appreciative Inquiry to Fuel Productive and Meaningful Engagement” (www.cwh.today)

    35 min
  3. 06/30/2025

    Season 4: A Playful Approach in Serious Times

    Is there space for playfulness in the most serious of moments? Liz Vogel is a leader in the preservation of American democracy - and in intentional gathering. It’s easy to challenge whether play has a space with the stakes are high and the content serious, but Liz embodies a playful spirit even when confronting the toughest of issues. We discuss democracy, end-of-life, vintage clothes, and more. Resources mentioned: Priya Parker - The Art of GatheringDay Schildkret - Ritual and Morning AltarsEboo Patel at American University, We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy Friends honor artist’s last wishes with water ballet in a Seattle kiddie pool “Some prefer funerals, some prefer having their ashes scattered, but local artist Briar Bates chose a different way to commemorate her death — instructing her friends to perform a water ballet in the wading pool at Volunteer Park.” GUEST: Liz Vogel Liz Vogel currently serves as Co-Executive Director at New Pluralists, where she guides funders to collaborate and invest together to strengthen belonging, trust and cooperation across differences in the U.S. This builds on over two decades of experience in the nonprofit and philanthropic sectors. Liz is deeply rooted in relationships and community, as seen and felt in her personal and professional gatherings, and exudes a life-long curiosity which has led her to the creation of vintage clothing parties, becoming a death doula, and being a modern elder in training.

    33 min
  4. 06/23/2025

    Season 4: Play as Strategy

    Retired Colonel Jason M. Trew -"TOGA" - studied at the Air Force school for strategists (earning a PhD) and came out with some fascinating insights on play. Introducing the concept of “warped play,” TOGA shares insights on the power of play for strategy development - providing opportunity to practice before we are in the highest pressure situations. GUEST: Col Jason “TOGA” Trew, PhD (USAF Retired) At the time of our conversation, Colonel Jason M. Trew, who goes by the callsign "TOGA," was serving as the Commandant and Dean of the premier strategy course in the Department of Defense. In the time since the interview, TOGA has relinquished command, retired from the Air Force and began teaching for the Savannah College of Art and Design. Anything expressed in this interview are his personal views and do not reflect the official policy of -- or endorsement by -- any part of the US Government. TOGA entered the Air Force in 1999 after graduating from the U.S. Air Force Academy with a Bachelor of Science in Legal Studies and Russian Area Studies. After flying trainer and fighter aircraft for the first half of his career, he spent a decade focused on innovations in education, strategy, and leadership. This included a year studying at the Air Force school for strategists, earning a PhD in the history of technology, coaching innovation teams across the federal government, and leading the design team for Space Force education. He has extensive training in facilitation and design thinking and is also certified as a performance coach, personal trainer, and an Ironman triathlon coach.

    45 min
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Looking to build innovation, strengthen organizational culture, and develop greater confidence? Try play. Seriously. Play builds empathy, sparks creativity, and allows deeper reflection and learning. Why would we not integrate it into our workday? Speaking with CEOs, executive coaches, and leaders across a variety of industries, Mary Hendra explores what “play” can look like in professional spaces, its impact on us and our organizations, and how to integrate a little play ourselves to build more compassionate and creative workplaces.