"No Trust" by Zero Trust Forum

"No Trust" by Zero Trust Forum

Listen to experts discuss the latest in Zero Trust security on our podcast! Explore topics like adaptive access control, data protection, and insider threat mitigation. Stay informed about Zero Trust architecture, best practices, and real-world case studies to enhance your cybersecurity strategy. Tune in for insights and advice on building a resilient, secure infrastructure.

  1. 9h ago

    Surviving Black Hat: AI Hype, Vendor Noise & Making the Conference Count with Gina Yacone

    In this episode, Ginny Yon joins the No Trust podcast team live at Black Hat in Las Vegas to discuss how Hacker Summer Camp is evolving, the explosion of AI and agentic security, and why separating genuine innovation from hype is becoming increasingly difficult. The conversation explores how AI is accelerating cybersecurity startups and product development, why security leaders may need to make smaller and more calculated technology bets, and why understanding the company behind the technology is becoming just as important as evaluating the product itself. Ginny also shares her advice for getting the most from Black Hat, the importance of community and those unexpected hallway conversations, and why the next generation of cybersecurity professionals still needs strong foundations alongside an understanding of AI. And, because it’s the No Trust podcast, there’s also time for oysters, mussels and the inevitable pineapple on pizza debate. Key Takeaways: • Black Hat is about the people and community as much as the technology. • Go with a plan, but leave space for unexpected conversations and connections. • AI and agentic security are everywhere, but separating innovation from hype is getting harder. • AI is dramatically reducing the time it takes to build and launch new cybersecurity products. • Security leaders need to understand the company behind the technology, not just the product. • Smaller, calculated technology bets may make more sense in a rapidly changing market. • Start with the problem you need to solve, not the latest AI terminology. • Waiting for the AI security market to settle carries its own risk. • AI is becoming a foundational cybersecurity skill, but traditional security disciplines still matter. • Find the area of cybersecurity you enjoy, build strong foundations and keep learning. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn [www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/](http://www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/). Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - [www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/](http://www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/) Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - [www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/](http://www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/)

    Surviving Black Hat: AI Hype, Vendor Noise & Making the Conference Count with Gina Yacone
  2. 2d ago

    From Black Hat to AI: How Cybersecurity Is Changing with Trey Ford

    In this episode, Trey Ford joins the No Trust podcast team at Black Hat in Las Vegas to discuss how cybersecurity is evolving as AI accelerates software development, vulnerability discovery, and the speed of both attack and defence. Drawing on decades of experience across offensive security, vulnerability research, and the Black Hat community, Trey shares his perspective on how the industry has changed, why the next 18–36 months could bring a significant increase in vulnerabilities, and why AI will allow us to make both good and bad decisions at machine speed. The conversation explores AI-generated code, vulnerability management, open-source security, human oversight, patching pressure, and why strong foundations in networking, troubleshooting, debugging, and systems thinking will become even more important as AI takes on more of the traditional technical workload. The episode also looks at the changing career path into cybersecurity, the importance of being able to think beyond individual technologies and vulnerabilities, and why Black Hat remains as much about people, relationships, and community as it is about research and technology. Key Takeaways: • Black Hat is about the people and community as much as the research and technology. • Go to Black Hat with a purpose, but leave enough space for unexpected conversations and connections. • The smaller vendors, startups, and researchers are often where you find the most interesting innovation. • AI will let us work at machine speed, but it will also allow us to make bad decisions at machine speed. • Human oversight, challenge and validation will remain critical as AI becomes more autonomous. • The next 18–36 months could bring a significant increase in vulnerabilities as AI accelerates software development. • Faster exploitation means organisations will increasingly have to balance the risk of patching quickly against the risk of waiting. • Cybersecurity professionals need strong foundations in networking, systems, troubleshooting and debugging, not just specialist skills. • The future belongs to people who can think across systems and understand how technology, security and business connect. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    From Black Hat to AI: How Cybersecurity Is Changing with Trey Ford
  3. May 12

    How AI Exposes Security Skeletons and What to Do About It

    In this episode, Howard Holton joins the No Trust podcast team to discuss why AI is exposing long standing weaknesses across cybersecurity, identity, and IT operations. Drawing on decades of experience as a CIO, CTO, and CISO, Howard shares practical insights into why organisations continue to struggle with security fundamentals, how technical debt has created massive hidden risk, and why AI is accelerating the impact of those problems rather than creating entirely new ones. The conversation explores identity hygiene, least privilege access, blast radius reduction, Zero Trust principles, board level accountability, and the growing gap between business speed and secure delivery. The episode also looks at why organisations need to rethink culture, governance, and leadership if they want to build sustainable security strategies in the AI era. Key Takeaways: • AI is exposing years of poor security hygiene. • Identity and access control matter more than ever. • Technical debt is becoming a major security risk. • AI increases the speed and scale of attacks. • Businesses still prioritise speed over security. • Least privilege is critical in the AI era. • Zero Trust helps reduce blast radius. • Security must become part of doing things right. • Boards need stronger cybersecurity understanding. • Organisations need time to clean up legacy issues. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    How AI Exposes Security Skeletons and What to Do About It
  4. May 8

    Navigating the Cybersecurity Landscape in 2026: Insights from Gina Yacone

    In this episode, Gina Yacone joins Jaye Tillson and John Spiegel to discuss the latest trends in cybersecurity, Zero Trust, AI, identity, vulnerability management, and the evolving industry landscape. The conversation explores how organisations are being forced to rethink security because of rising cyber threats, AI-driven attacks, regulatory pressure, and the growing importance of business-aligned cybersecurity leadership. They also share practical insights on reducing attack surface, managing technical debt, preparing for quantum risks, securing AI adoption, and why modern CISOs must increasingly speak the language of the business rather than just technology. Key Takeaways: • Zero Trust is moving from buzzword to business necessity. • Identity is back at the centre of serious security conversations. • Zero Trust is about reducing blast radius, not pretending breaches will never happen. • AI is helping attackers move faster, scale better, and make fewer mistakes. • Defenders need AI too, but adoption and operationalisation are still hard. • Vulnerability management must move from counting CVEs to understanding real exposure. • CTEM is changing how organisations prioritise risk and patching. • Quantum readiness should start now with simple assessments and crypto visibility. • CISOs need to speak business language, not just technical language. • Secure AI, data governance, and SDLC controls are becoming urgent priorities. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    Navigating the Cybersecurity Landscape in 2026: Insights from Gina Yacone
  5. Feb 3

    Navigating the Zero Trust Landscape in 2026 with Chase Cunningham

    In this episode of the No Trust podcast, Chase Cunningham discusses the evolution of Zero Trust, reflecting on the growth and challenges faced in 2025 and looking ahead to 2026. The conversation covers the hype cycle of Zero Trust, the importance of leadership in strategy implementation, the need for cultural shifts, and the metrics that matter in measuring success. The discussion also touches on the role of AI in cybersecurity and the future of Zero Trust as a standard practice in organizations. Key Takeaways: • 2025 was a year of significant international growth for Zero Trust. • The Zero Trust hype cycle has transitioned to a phase of practicality. • Leadership is crucial for the continuous execution of Zero Trust strategies. • Organizations often misinterpret Zero Trust as a completed project rather than an ongoing strategy. • Incentives in cybersecurity need to shift from punitive measures to positive reinforcement. • Cultural challenges in adopting Zero Trust can hinder its effectiveness. • Metrics should focus on real-world outcomes rather than superficial statistics. • Zero Trust is becoming a necessary standard for modern businesses. • Technical debt poses a significant challenge for legacy organizations in adopting Zero Trust. • The future of Zero Trust will likely see it integrated as a default practice in new organizations. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    Navigating the Zero Trust Landscape in 2026 with Chase Cunningham
  6. 11/13/2025

    Burning Down Cybersecurity Myths with Mr Unpopular Opinion

    In this episode of the No Trust podcast, John Spiegel engages with cybersecurity expert Joshua Copeland, who shares his insights on the fundamental flaws in the cybersecurity landscape. They discuss the leadership vacuum in the industry, the pitfalls of compliance theater, and the overwhelming vendor hype that complicates tool selection. Joshua emphasizes the need for a proactive approach to security, aligning cybersecurity with business objectives, and the importance of effective communication with leadership. The conversation culminates in actionable takeaways for cybersecurity leaders looking to improve their strategies and outcomes. Key Takeaways: • Cybersecurity has a leadership vacuum that needs addressing. • Compliance does not equate to security; it's often just theater. • Organizations suffer from tool sprawl and lack of strategy. • Vendor hype can distort risk perception and lead to poor decisions. • Security leaders must communicate in business terms to gain support. • Proactive security measures can prevent costly breaches. • Understanding the business is crucial for effective cybersecurity leadership. • Cybersecurity can be a revenue-generating function if aligned with business goals. • Leverage existing tools before chasing new ones. • Focus on redesigning critical processes for better security outcomes. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    Burning Down Cybersecurity Myths with Mr Unpopular Opinion

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Listen to experts discuss the latest in Zero Trust security on our podcast! Explore topics like adaptive access control, data protection, and insider threat mitigation. Stay informed about Zero Trust architecture, best practices, and real-world case studies to enhance your cybersecurity strategy. Tune in for insights and advice on building a resilient, secure infrastructure.