The No Love Songs Music Business Podcast

Ryan Bazinet
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This podcast is all about the economics of rock and roll. There's a million bands out there, and almost as many clubs. Not to mention the complexities of making records, streaming, music videos, and merch. How to navigate all that? To answer that question, ethnomusicologist Ryan Bazinet talks to musicians, engineers, record store owners and more who share best practices to help bands more efficiently build off of prior experience. Don't reinvent the wheel, or the pentatonic scale. Listen to this podcast and get smarter about music. nolovesongs.substack.com

  1. Sep 4

    EP 15: Clint Holley

    Hey, it’s episode fifteen of the No Love Songs Music Business podcast! In this episode I speak with Clint Holley, Chief Mastering Engineer and owner of Well Made Music and The Earnest Tube in Bristol, VA. We talked about cutting lacquers for record mastering, direct-to-disk recording, and why the vinyl industry might be headed for consolidation. Well Made Music is a true success story in American manufacturing, and in the music business generally. The mastering studio originally started in Cleveland when, in 2010, Holley bought a vintage Neumann VMS 70 lathe (widely considered among the best machines on earth). Clint was previously a live sound engineer, and he set up the Neumann in his mother-in-law’s garage and taught himself how to use it. He soon became the go-to lacquer cutter for Gotta Groove Records, Inc.. Then, a few years back, Clint moved the operation to Bristol, VA. Well Made probably has more cutting lathes than just about any other mastering house in the country, with 3 (soon to be 4) units in operation. I hope you enjoy the conversation. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolovesongs.substack.com

  2. Aug 26

    EP 14: Big Lon Salyer

    In this episode, ethnomusicologist Ryan Bazinet speaks with East Tennessee music historian Lonnie “Big Lon” Salyer. We talked about his work organizing a massive annual record show, his weekly radio show on Radio Bristol, and his upcoming book about the 1950s record label, Kingsport Records. Enjoy the conversation. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolovesongs.substack.com

  3. Apr 15

    EP 13: George's Song Shop

    This episode features John George, owner of George’s Song Shop in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. George’s is billed as “America’s Oldest Record Store,” having been founded by John’s father in 1932. John took over the store in 1962, and has kept it going ever since. He says they’re selling more records now, in 2026, than ever before. Enjoy the conversation. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolovesongs.substack.com

  4. Apr 8

    EP 12 - Ersatz

    This episode features Ilya of the Russian noise rock band Ersatz. The conversation touched on the heavy music scene in Moscow and the band’s upcoming live video EP with Friends & Aliens Records, out on April 10th, 2026. You can find Ersatz on Spotify and Bandcamp. Or look them up next time you’re in Moscow. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolovesongs.substack.com

    EP 12 - Ersatz

  5. 08/02/2024

    EP 11 - Trash Casual Records

    This episode features AJ Tobey, founder of the Brooklyn record label Trash Casual and A&R Head at Rough Trade Publishing. We talked about why he started his label and what independent artists need to know about record labels and music publishing. Check it out. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolovesongs.substack.com

  6. 07/10/2024

    EP 10 - Fred Kevorkian

    The 10th episode of the podcast is a conversation with mastering engineer Fred Kevorkian. We talked about his love of analog gear, what he thinks about AI mastering, and why a second pair of ears might just save your recording project. Check it out. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolovesongs.substack.com

  7. 02/02/2024

    EP 9 - NLS

    This episode is a special one. It features my band, the namesake of the show: No Love Songs. Listen in for a conversation between me, Gustavo, and Lui, on our plans for rock music success in the coming year. Learn more about No Love Songs at nolovesongs.world. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolovesongs.substack.com

    EP 9 - NLS

  8. 11/23/2023

    EP 8 - Martin Bisi

    This episode features Martin Bisi, renowned producer and engineer for artists from Sonic Youth to Herbie Hancock. Host Ryan Bazinet (lead singer of the grunge band No Love Songs) spoke with Martin about changes in the NYC recording business since the ‘70s, and why musicians push through the pain of a music career. Learn more about No Love Songs on ⁠nolovesongs.world This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolovesongs.substack.com

    EP 8 - Martin Bisi
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This podcast is all about the economics of rock and roll. There's a million bands out there, and almost as many clubs. Not to mention the complexities of making records, streaming, music videos, and merch. How to navigate all that? To answer that question, ethnomusicologist Ryan Bazinet talks to musicians, engineers, record store owners and more who share best practices to help bands more efficiently build off of prior experience. Don't reinvent the wheel, or the pentatonic scale. Listen to this podcast and get smarter about music. nolovesongs.substack.com

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