Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks

BKBT Productions

Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks is the tech podcast about humans. Hosted by George K and George A, this podcast examines AI, infrastructure, technology adoption, and the broader implications of tech developments through both guest interviews and news commentary.Our guests bring honest perspectives on what's working, what's broken, and new ways to examine the roles and impacts of technology in our lives. We challenge conventional tech industry narratives and dig into real-world consequences over hype. Whether you're deeply technical or just trying to understand how technology shapes society, this show will make you think critically about where we're headed and who's getting left behind.

  1. What the AI datacenter build out looks like from the ground up

    2D AGO

    What the AI datacenter build out looks like from the ground up

    What happens when a community votes no…but the #AI datacenter construction starts anyway? That is not a hypothetical. It’s what happened in Saline Township, Michigan, when a $16 billion OpenAI-Oracle data center was rejected by the local planning commission, rejected again by the township board, and broke ground weeks later anyway. The developer sued. The town settled. They had no real choice. Sharon Goldman has been covering the AI data center buildout for Fortune — not from boardrooms, but from township halls, planning commission meetings, and rural communities that had never imagined something like this landing in their midst. What she’s found is a story that the technology press largely isn't telling: the buildout is a bottom-up crisis dressed up as a top-down triumph. The numbers tell part of it. Saline Township received $14 million in community benefits from a $16 billion project, against an annual budget of $1 million. In Richland Parish, Louisiana, the land where Meta's Hyperion facility now sits was once pitched for an auto plant that would have created two to three thousand permanent jobs. The data center is promising 500. The construction workers are mostly from out of state. And the justifying ideologies — the race with China, the national security imperative — has no finish line. This race has a vague one-upsmanship and a $700 billion spend with no clear end in sight. What Sharon sees coming, and what she thinks the press is missing, is the backlash that is quietly becoming a political force — showing up in recall elections, in governor's races, and in the kind of conspiratorial thinking that emerges when people have lost trust and no longer believe that democracy is working for them. You can read more of Sharon's reporting here: A Michigan farm town voted down plans for a giant OpenAI-Oracle data center. Weeks later, construction began | Fortune Meta's $27 billion AI data center is causing chaos in small town Louisiana | Fortune At the edges of the AI data center boom, rural America is up against Silicon Valley billions Huge AI data centers are turning local elections into fights over the future of energy Elon Musk is pushing to build data centers in space. But they won’t solve AI’s power problems anytime soon Big Tech will spend nearly $700 billion on AI this year. No one knows where the buildout ends Inside a multibillion dollar AI data center powering the future of the American economy

    42 min
  2. Best of: What leaders get wrong about AI rollouts and employee adoption

    MAY 11

    Best of: What leaders get wrong about AI rollouts and employee adoption

    In the wake of more layoffs attributed to "AI," we thought it worthwhile to revisit this conversation from earlier in the year. Increasingly, AI is being used as a catch-all excuse to justify layoffs without clear return on business value, other than the stock price...so it's time to dig deeper. What if your AI rollout isn't failing because of the technology, but because no one asked your employees how they feel about it? Dr. Marissa Alert is a clinical psychologist who works with organizations scaling AI. Her argument is deceptively simple: the resistance leaders keep running into isn't a change management problem. It's a diagnostic failure. And until you treat it like one, AI rollouts turn into guesswork. High usage doesn't mean successful adoption. It might just mean fear-driven compliance. In this episode, we get into what business leaders and organizations consistently get wrong: the assumptions made about how employees will respond, the gap between leadership alignment at the top and the confusion that trickles down, and why layering an AI mandate onto a workforce already running on empty is a very different problem than a training rollout. We also got into something harder: what it means when employees are being asked to integrate tools that might replace them, and why most leaders don't have a good answer for that question. If your organization is tracking adoption rates and still seeing 20%, this episode is worth your time. Mentioned Jack Dorsey’s Block cuts nearly half of its staff in AI gamble

    41 min
  3. The Everything Machine and the Trillion-Dollar Bet [Replay]

    MAY 4

    The Everything Machine and the Trillion-Dollar Bet [Replay]

    What if the story we're being told about AI's inevitability is hiding something underneath? That's the question Jessica Parker and Kimberly Becker put to George K. on their podcast, Women Talking ‘Bout AI. This conversation is a replay from their feed. It followed the money: the special purpose vehicles, the obfuscatory financing, the concentration of risk in a handful of companies and a single island in the Taiwan Strait. But what they kept arriving at wasn't really a financial question. It was a human one. Who has skin in the game? And what happens to the rest of us when the people building this technology can't answer what outcome they're actually trying to produce? The conversation covers why the dot-com analogy is the wrong frame for the current investment craze, why an AI crash could starve the narrow applications that actually work, and why the "everything machine" promise was probably never going to pay for itself. It also gets into what chatbot tutors get wrong about teaching, why we keep analogizing ourselves to whatever technology we just built, and what it might mean that generalists could be the ones who come out of this ahead. The kind of conversation where you leave with more questions than you came in with. Which is exactly what we're after.

    1h 2m
  4. AI is doing real good and real harm, but the hype is hiding both

    APR 27

    AI is doing real good and real harm, but the hype is hiding both

    The AI hype machine is taking up all the oxygen we need to actually stop the harm happening today. This month we heard from three guests who didn't compare notes. Didn't coordinate. And all three circled the same thing: the #AI hype machine isn't just wrong, it's actively making things worse. Capital flows going to “everything machines” instead applications that actually accomplish tasks. Gas turbines burning methane next to communities already carrying four times the national cancer rate. AI chatbots mathematically, not metaphorically, mathematically, engineered to reinforce delusional thinking in vulnerable users. Deepfake abuse still expanding, still mostly targeting women and minors, still unsolved. This is the real harm inventory. This month. Right now. Meanwhile the discourse is about whether a model might hypothetically stage a coup in five years. We're not doing doomer porn. We're saying watch the industry’s hands, not the mouth. The boring risks are already here. The extraordinary stuff — the farmer in Morocco beating generalist models with expert-annotated field data, the researcher finding antibiotics with true wet lab work — that's also already here! It's just not getting same headlines and the funding. System Check. This month's episodes, broken down against current events and whatever's rattling around our brainboxes. Mentioned: Smaller models find the same bugs as Mythos Stanford HAI 2026 AI Index Discovering a new class of antibiotics Dmitri Alperovitch's testimony on compute Baidu robotaxi outage MIT CSAIL study on AI psychosis NAACP lawsuit against xAI XAI gas turbines polluting rural communities Northern Virginia datacenter health impacts Human Line Project

    41 min
  5. Distinguishing between movement and progress, in AI, security, and more

    APR 20

    Distinguishing between movement and progress, in AI, security, and more

    Are tech industries selling us a problems they invented? Ryan Clarque, CSO at Black Rifle Coffee Company, doesn't flinch at the big provocations. When Claude's Mythos model showed up in every LinkedIn feed promising a software apocalypse, Ryan's take was blunt: the basics were broken before Mythos, and they'll still be broken after it. The real question about a powerful AI model, it’s whether you've built a program capable of doing anything about them when it does. But the conversation doesn't stop at hype-busting. Ryan has quietly done something the industry insists can't be done: built a lean, two-person security operation that ditched the big-ticket SIEM vendors, took control of its own telemetry, and outperformed programs with ten times the headcount and budget. When one of those vendors found out, they sent their "heavy hitter" to prove Ryan wrong, who left agreeing Ryan didn't need them. What emerges is a portrait of a practitioner who learned to distinguish progress from movement — and who thinks most of the industry is confusing the two. The procurement cycle, the Gartner roadmap, the sequence of investments you're told you must make: Ryan's argument is that inertia dressed up as strategy has left small security teams demoralized and over-leveraged, and that the fix is less about budget and more about the willingness to build your own way out. And then, at the end of a week of planes and conferences, Ryan says something that reframes all of it. The reason he doesn't chase the car or the watch or the title isn't asceticism — it's that working in security means observing the worst of what people do to each other, and the only way to stay functional is to invest hard in what actually holds. Time. Trust. People who remember how you made them feel. Mentioned: Cal Newport on Mythos vs other LLMs in finding software vulnerabilities

    45 min
  6. Using focused AI to help small farmers and reduce food insecurity

    APR 13

    Using focused AI to help small farmers and reduce food insecurity

    What if narrow #AI, rather than imagined AGI through scaling will be what changes the world? In some places, that’s already happening. El Mahdi Aboulmanadel founded DeepLeaf after watching smallholder farmers in Morocco misdiagnose crop disease because three distinct conditions can look identical to the human eye. Wrong diagnosis, wrong treatment, chemical residue on food. Best case scenario? Export crops rejected at customs.Worst case scenario? Food scarcity for communities that can’t afford it. DeepLeaf's answer is deliberate focus: one problem, field-validated data, models trained on hyperspectral and RGB image pairs across 57 crops. The accuracy doesn't come from scale. It comes from specificity. Fine-tuned continuously on new field data. The result is less compute, faster iteration, and outcomes closer to the ground truth. DeepLeaf has both cloud inference for large or multi-crop operations and lightweight edge models downloaded per crop for farmers running on Android phones in areas with no connectivity. The architecture fits the user, not the other way around. We get into economic potential for farmers, and of course, the effects of the war in Iran. This episode is about what new AI perspectives than the ones taking up all the oxygen in the West. This is technology that’s built for communities that Silicon Valley usually ignores.

    36 min
  7. AI Security Is Just as vague as "Cloud Security", but With Sparkle Emojis

    APR 6

    AI Security Is Just as vague as "Cloud Security", but With Sparkle Emojis

    Amber Bennoui calls it like she sees it: most of what gets sold as "AI security" is just cloud security with sparkle emojis on it. She's co-founder of AISECA, a veteran product leader, and a more honest voices in a space that isn't exactly famous for honesty right now. We sat down with her fresh off RSA, and the conversation got very real: The real AI risk isn't the sci-fi scenario. It's the DevOps engineer at a 900-person company arguing they should be able to send commands via a remote control feature, with three security people in the building who don't even know the conversation is happening. It's the tools already embedded in software your finance and HR teams use every day, making decisions nobody gave explicit permission for. Amber's argument is simple and uncomfortable: most organizations have a discoverability problem they haven't solved yet, and vendors are selling dashboards to people who don't even know what's running in their own house. That's not security. That's theater. We also got into what it actually takes to build something vendor-agnostic and practitioner-led when the companies with the biggest budgets are also the ones racing to define what AI security means. And whether the tension between speed and safety is even something security teams get to resolve — or whether that decision has already been made for them. Mentioned:  MIT Paper, "Sycophantic Chatbots Cause Delusional Spiraling, Even in Ideal Bayesians"

    41 min
  8. The lawsuit that could reclaim the internet, and the AI hype cycle is eating its own tail

    MAR 30

    The lawsuit that could reclaim the internet, and the AI hype cycle is eating its own tail

    When was the last time a news headline about AI actually told you something true? George K. and George A. recorded this one from opposite sides of the planet — George K. fresh off RSA in San Francisco, George A. embedded at a global trust and safety conference in London. The distance didn't slow them down. This month's System Check has a theme: we’re living inside a story that powerful institutions are writing for us, and most of us aren't stopping to ask who's holding the pen. Meta and YouTube just lost a landmark lawsuit — not over what they published, but over how they designed their products to keep you hooked. The legal strategy that finally worked was the one used against Big Tobacco. Meanwhile, 82% of journalists now use some form of AI tool in their work. The people covering AI are increasingly shaped by it. The snake is eating its tail. The arms race math doesn't add up either. Forty billion dollar bridge loans. Circular investments. Credit-based bets assuming a revenue base that doesn't yet exist. And somewhere in rural Mississippi, kids are developing breathing problems because gas turbines got trucked in to power a datacenter the community never voted for. The question running underneath all of it: are we making decisions based on outcomes, or based on vibes? And if it's vibes — whose vibes are they, and how did they get there? Mentioned: Meta and YouTube verdict news coverage Center for Humane Technology’s podcast “Your Undivided Attention” episode on the Meta and YouTube lawsuit verdicts Ed Zitron’s recent monologue Research into how media covers AI UK Study on AI media coverage Muck Rack’s 2026 State of Journalism Report WSJ: CFOs expect to reduce headcount because of AI Anthropic co-founder Jack Clark on not being able to idle AI systems Iran War affects world helium supply, creating semiconductor bottleneck Environmental effects of Elon Musk using gas turbines to power data centers in rural communities

    41 min
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Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks is the tech podcast about humans. Hosted by George K and George A, this podcast examines AI, infrastructure, technology adoption, and the broader implications of tech developments through both guest interviews and news commentary.Our guests bring honest perspectives on what's working, what's broken, and new ways to examine the roles and impacts of technology in our lives. We challenge conventional tech industry narratives and dig into real-world consequences over hype. Whether you're deeply technical or just trying to understand how technology shapes society, this show will make you think critically about where we're headed and who's getting left behind.

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  • Creator
    BKBT Productions
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    184
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © BKBT Production LLC
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