The Sandy and Dave Show: Coaching Conversations for Coaches

Sandy Swanson and David Shen
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If you are a new coach or thinking about becoming a coach, this podcast will provide you with tips and strategies to help you become more confident with your coaching conversations, your coaching business, and yourself. We're Sandy Swanson and David Shen, and we are ICF, NBHWC, and ADAPT certified coaches. We'll be talking about coaching competencies and session structure and will also dive into other aspects of psychology and other non-traditional modalities that have taken us past the usual "surface-level" or "transactional" type of coaching. Visit us at: https://thesandyanddaveshow.com/

  1. 01/25/2025

    The Return of the 30-minute Menace!

    In this episode, we revisit the 30-minute session and what to expect when you are working for one of these big coaching companies that offer only 30-minute coaching sessions.  Dave dives into the research (of course he does) and Sandy has a few rants about profile photos (including her own...). SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) where do we find these 30-minute sessions - and why 30 minutes?? Sandy goes on her soapbox about coaching bios and profile photos what 30-minute session structure look like for us how coachability comes into play when working for these big coaching companies what we strive to do - and what we might skip - in these shorter sessions what advice we would give to coaches new to these platforms The study Dave mentioned: Behaviors and Structures for Coaches to Maximize Effects on Coaching, Coaching Research Institute LLP, 2013: https://researchportal.coachingfederation.org/Document/Pdf/519.pdf Find Dave at coachdshen.com Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website   Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

  2. 10/26/2024

    Trust and Safety in Coaching Sessions

    The concept of trust and safety seems soooo simple, and yet... there is a lot to it regarding coaching conversations and how we show up for our clients!  In this episode you'll hear areas of growth to consider when cultivating trust and safety, Dave's joy when it comes to word definitions, and some of Sandy's pet peeves about coaching over video. Enjoy! SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) the definitions of trust and safety rapport - is this the same as trust or safety? the ICF competency on trust and safety the National Board guidelines - do they even mention trust?? Sandy's breakdown of 3 areas to cultivate trust with clients Dave's thoughts on what he does to create trust in and out of sessions 5 things Sandy hears in student recordings relating to trust and safety Sandy's pet peeve about video environments and how this can affect a feeling of trust or safety in clients The ICF PCC (Professional Certified Coach) Markers can be found here: November 2020 ICF PCC Markers The NBHWC Practical Skills Guidelines (Competencies and "Observables") can be found here: September 2022 NBWC Practical Skills Guidelines Find Dave at coachdshen.com Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website   Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

  3. 06/29/2024

    Leading without Leading

    Wait, leading? Isn't that BAD in coaching sessions? Yes, and no. Leading *without leading* is pretty much in our job descriptions as coaches. We'll discuss this, why it can be good OR bad, and offer our two-point failsafe method to "lead without leading" that we use in our sessions. SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) What do we mean by "leading"? What do we mean by "leading without leading?" What Dave prefers to call this Discussion of why this is good - and bad - and how to do it using Dave's patented "lead without leading" method Sandy shares what ICF PCC markers speak to this topic The three things Sandy hears in session reviews from new coaches How to practice this skill The ICF PCC (Professional Certified Coach) Markers can be found here: November 2020 ICF PCC Markers Find Dave at coachdshen.com Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website   Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

  4. 04/13/2024

    Chemistry Sessions for Coaches

    Chemistry sessions. What are they? What should they include? What SHOULDN'T they include? And why does Sandy dislike that term, ""chemistry"" (major air quotes there)? These answers and more are discussed in this episode!  Be sure to scroll down if you'd like a copy of Sandy's First Session Road Map if you need some structure to your initial sessions with potential clients. SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) The purpose of chemistry sessions Length of these sessions Do we charge for these initial sessions? Structure of chemistry sessions Thoughts on coaching during this first session Thoughts on "selling" to potential clients Have we ever said "no" to a potential client? Chemistry sessions when working for a coaching company (BetterUp, Modern Health, Spring Health, AbleTo, etc) - do they even exist in this realm? If so, how are they different? People.... people who need.... people... listen to this volume UP to hear the way this song should be sung. By Jule Styne and Bob Merrill featuring the original Funny Girl herself. ICF Guidelines on referring a client to therapy NBHWC (National Board for Health and Wellness Coaches) does not have any resources regarding therapy referrals that we could find. CLICK HERE for Sandy's First Session Road Map Find Dave at coachdshen.com Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website   Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

  5. 02/10/2024

    Language in Coaching Conversations

    Let's talk LANGUAGE! We're all taught to "use your client's language", but what about the coach's language? And what if you purposefully use language that is *opposite* of the words your client just spoke, what happens then...? What the heck is NLP, anyways, and why are we obsessed with it??  All of this and more in this episode. Enjoy! SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) What's important about language in coaching sessions Thinking/feeling language How trust/rapport come into play when using language Using different language than your client - on purpose Internal vs external language Away vs towards language Flourishing vs languishing language Violent language and metaphors Cultural differences and coaching in a second language Practices for coaches to try in their sessions Holistic Coach Podcast (interview with Sandy) Introduction to NLP (book) The Power of Language   Find Dave at coachdshen.com Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website   Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

  6. 01/27/2024

    The ICF Credentialing Exam

    The new ICF Credentialing Exam is on the agenda for today!  Dave is going to interview Sandy about her recent experience taking this exam, and Sandy is going to offer lots of things to consider and think about before, during, and after the exam.  She also has a bright shiny new resource to help YOU prepare for this exam. Enjoy!   SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) The new exam vs the old Coach Knowledge Assessment (CKA) Exam and we remember (or not) about the CKA What you need to get in order before taking the new exam What is actually IN the exam How to best prepare for the exam Sandy shares her experience in the world of proctored exams Tips for best and worst answers Sample question dissection/discussion Barriers to passing the exam   BASIC INFO FROM THE ICF ICF EXAM CONTENT and SAMPLE QUESTIONS ACC PILOT EXAM INFO (Jan/Feb 2024) ACC CANDIDATE GUIDE PCC CANDIDATE GUIDE COACH THE PERSON, NOT THE PROBLEM - book by Marcia Reynolds SANDY'S 7-PAGE ICF EXAM RESOURCEPALOOZA and STUDY GUIDE Find Dave at coachdshen.com Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website   Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

  7. 01/20/2024

    Metaphors in Coaching Conversations

    Let's talk METAPHORS! This was a fun episode as we tried to cram in as many metaphors as we could, lol... we invite you to take a listen and write down the ones that you hear, and visit our website (no peeking!!!) to see if you got them all! SHOW FLOW and LINKS Sandy and Dave discuss why using metaphors can be really useful in coaching conversations Sandy lists a few well-known (at least here in the US) metaphors and gets into "violent" metaphors Dave talks about using a client's profession as a place to gather metaphors How *we* use metaphors in our coaching sessions How coaches can improve their metaphor use Go to our website (The Sandy and Dave Show) to see a list of all the metaphors we used in this episode! Find Dave at coachdshen.com Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website   Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

  8. 01/06/2024

    Emotions in Coaching

    What do you do when a client has a strong emotion in a session? Do you acknowledge? Offer space? Uncomfortably shift in your chair and secretly wish the session would end sooner rather than later? This episode is about how to use, deal with, and/or avoid (ok maybe not avoid) emotions that come up in coaching conversations. SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) The definition of emotion Emotions vs. feelings "Faux feelings" – what are they? How to sense emotion in a client Some things that might get in the way of sensing emotions in clients How Sandy works with emotions in her sessions How Dave works with emotions in his sessions Using "neutral language" to share observations about emotions Managing strong emotions from clients during sessions What Sandy sees in student sessions when it comes to emotions Loss and grief – why these emotions come up so often in sessions. Candace Pert – The Molecules of Emotions Karla McLaren – The Language of Emotions Lisa Feldman Barrett – How Emotions are Made Emotional vocabulary/feelings wheels: Feelings and Needs Wheel created by Bret Stein (based on Nonviolent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg, PhD) The Feeling Wheel by Gloria Wilcox The ICF PCC (Professional Certified Coach) Markers can be found here: November 2020 ICF PCC Markers The NBHWC Practical Skills Guidelines (Competencies and "Observables") can be found here: September 2022 NBWC Practical Skills Guidelines Find Dave at coachdshen.com Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website   Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

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If you are a new coach or thinking about becoming a coach, this podcast will provide you with tips and strategies to help you become more confident with your coaching conversations, your coaching business, and yourself. We're Sandy Swanson and David Shen, and we are ICF, NBHWC, and ADAPT certified coaches. We'll be talking about coaching competencies and session structure and will also dive into other aspects of psychology and other non-traditional modalities that have taken us past the usual "surface-level" or "transactional" type of coaching. Visit us at: https://thesandyanddaveshow.com/

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  • Creator
    Sandy Swanson and David Shen
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2025
  • Episodes
    19
  • Rating
    Clean
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