Mormon.ish

Rebecca Bibliotheca and Landon Brophy

A podcast for post and nuanced Mormons seeking a joyful life as they navigate their faith journey outside of orthodox Mormonism. Donate to Mormonish Podcast here: https://www.mormonishpodcast.org/support This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

  1. 5d ago

    Ep351:Unique framework & textual clues point to a Book of Mormon ur-text, question sole authorship

    In Episode 8 of this series, Patrick presents the second set of textual clues that point to the Book of Mormon’s author. First he reviews evidence for an ur-text or underlying text of the Book of Mormon. This section includes discussion of many themes and stories from the Bible that are reworked in a sophisticated way in the Book of Mormon. A prime example is the reworking of the narrative on Melchizedek in Hebrews 7 in Alma 13 of the Book of Mormon. The specific reworking points to an author with a deep knowledge of the Bible, one with a careful eye, one with an eye to the future development of the ideas of the higher priesthood and tithing in the future church, and an author who thought they were authorized to correct the Bible’s mistakes! Next follows an interesting introduction to the Jacobins and the anti-Jacobin sentiments in the Book of Mormon that go beyond anti-Masonry. The author had an appreciation for this larger narrative in the early 1800 culture. A few additional examples that point to an ur-text are discussed, including Numerology in the text. Next we cover a thorough explanation of the framework William Davis discusses in Visions in a Seer Stone. Patrick recaps how one-to-two hour sermons could be delivered by preachers using only a small paper with “heads” or what we would think of bullet points. The use of heads, skeletal outlines, and mnemonic cues are all present in the Book of Mormon. The author of the Book of Mormon makes very skilled use of all these techniques. The big question is whether Joseph’s sermons and writings illustrate the same skilled application? The answer is that they do not and that Davis’ entire work points away from Joseph and directly to Sidney Rigdon—a seasoned restorationist preacher as the more likely author. The “one weird trick” to understanding the likely author of the Book of Mormon? The author had a deep well of knowledge, sacred and scientific, to draw upon. There’s no shortcut to producing a complex work like the Book of Mormon. Join us for a thoughtful look at the evidence behind one big question: who authored the Book of Mormon? Thank you so much for watching Mormonish Podcast! **How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you’d like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.com #mormonish #lds #mormon #exmormon #postmormon #religion #news, #ldschurch #comeuntochrist #churchofjesuschrist #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints #byu #byui #josephsmith #comefollowme #polygamy #bookofmormon #becauseofhim #hearhim #ldstemple FAIR USE DISCLAIMER All Media in this video (including the thumbnail) is used for the purpose of review and critique. The images in the thumbnail are used as the primary means of visually identifying the subject matter of the video This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

    Ep351:Unique framework & textual clues point to a Book of Mormon ur-text, question sole  authorship
  2. Sep 16

    Ep349: What Are The Real LDS Temple Attendance Numbers: New Site Crunches the Data

    What are the real LDS temple attendance numbers—and how close to capacity are temples actually operating? In this episode, we’re joined by Clint Kimball and Ron Yogason to explore groundbreaking new temple-attendance data from FullerConsideration.com. The website—already home to the Temple Name Oracle, Patriarchal Blessing Revelator, and LDS Unit Closure Tracker—is now estimating temple activity, including how many living and proxy endowments are performed each day and how closely individual temples are operating to capacity. The LDS Church stopped publicly reporting temple attendance figures in 1985, making this information difficult to obtain. What can these new estimates tell us about temple usage, Church growth, geographic trends, and the gap between available temple capacity and actual attendance? There’s a lot to uncover when we finally crunch the numbers. Check out the site here: https://fullerconsideration.com/ Better Information: A collection of original source documents on church history. No commentary. No analysis. The Temple Name Oracle: The popular database that unlocked the rotation system behind how New Names are given out in temples. The Patriarchal Blessing Revelator: An archive that helps us understand whether patriarchal blessings tell us more about the recipient or the patriarch. Unit Tracker: A live list of where wards, branches, stakes, and districts are being opened and closed around the world. The Deseret Demographer: A large data-driven analysis that shows how many of the church's reported membership actually consider themselves members, and how many are showing up to church. Past episode with Fuller Consideration: https://youtu.be/8I8hWkcc6iU This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

    Ep349: What Are The Real LDS Temple Attendance Numbers: New Site Crunches the Data
  3. Aug 27

    Episode 345: Textual complexity clues point to Book of Mormon authorship

    In Episode 7 of this series, Patrick begins by responding to recent listener feedback. He documents the many ways that post Mormons believe in conspiracy theories! Or better stated—collaborations or “constructed experiences” in early Mormon history. Patrick then responds to claims that stylometry is “junk science”. He compares this claim to early claims that DNA population studies and the Book of Mormon peoples were labeled in the same way. He demonstrates many cases of unknown authorship of a text being solved by stylometry. Further, he demonstrates how stylometry, well done, meets the high bar of being admitted as evidence in court cases. He walks through several examples of cases where stylometry was allowed as expert or scientific testimony. Patrick then announces that Rebecca discovered a 9th wordprint study! One that was just published in the past few weeks. Unfortunately, the study did not test the narrative and sermon text separately—a key to testing the multiple authors theories. More to come as we attempt to contact the author of the study for more information. The rest of this episode focuses on setting the stage for evaluating textual clues in the Book of Mormon. Which clues go beyond demonstrating 19th century authorship and tie uniquely to Joseph or Rigdon? Off the bat, there are a couple of very interesting cases: the 7-point Mormon project of the Book of Mormon, and Joseph’s role being limited to only dictation of the text and deferral to a “spokesman” for everything else. The remaining discussion evaluates further, the level of complexity in the Book of Mormon, so listeners can best evaluate the skill and amount of time the author would have needed to produce the text. Join us for a thoughtful look at the evidence behind one big question: who authored the Book of Mormon? Thank you so much for watching Mormonish Podcast! **How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you’d like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.com #mormonish #lds #mormon #exmormon #postmormon #religion #news, #ldschurch #comeuntochrist #churchofjesuschrist #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints #byu #byui #josephsmith #comefollowme #polygamy #bookofmormon #becauseofhim #hearhim #ldstemple FAIR USE DISCLAIMER All Media in this video (including the thumbnail) is used for the purpose of review and critique. The images in the thumbnail are used as the primary means of visually identifying the subject matter of the video This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

    Episode 345: Textual complexity clues point to Book of Mormon authorship
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A podcast for post and nuanced Mormons seeking a joyful life as they navigate their faith journey outside of orthodox Mormonism. Donate to Mormonish Podcast here: https://www.mormonishpodcast.org/support This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

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