Outside The Bachs with Kelly Riordan

Kelly Riordan
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We talk to musicians, artists, and creative entrepreneurs about their careers and the lessons they learned along their journey. Hosted by Kelly Riordan, co-founder of OutsideTheBachs.com OutsideTheBachs.com is a business accelerator program for musicians that are soloing or scaling in creating their own private music studios and delivering the highest quality education to their students. Scaling full-time private music studios with: ‍ - Profitable lesson packages - Predictable sources of students - Repeatable enrollment processes

  1. FEB 24

    Building a Sustainable Private Strings Studio

    In this special episode, Kelly sits down with three successful private music studio owners to share real stories of studio growth, increased income, and sustainable teaching schedules. If you are a private music teacher looking to grow your studio, raise your rates, or transition from side income to full-time teaching, this episode offers practical insight and proven results.Jessica shares how building a strong Suzuki program became the foundation of her portfolio music career. By committing to a clear teaching philosophy and long-term vision, she transformed her private lessons from a side offering into a stable, intentional business. She explains how specializing in Suzuki instruction helped her attract aligned families, improve student retention, and create consistent revenue in her music studio.Ainur walks through her six-month studio transformation. After leaving her previous job to focus fully on studio growth, she implemented strategic marketing efforts and built relationships with local schools. She secured a school teaching position, added ideal students, and increased her enrollment.Lydia shares how she scaled her cello studio steadily and sustainably. She explains how transitioning to flat rate tuition created predictable income, reduced stress, and improved communication with families. Although raising prices and restructuring her studio felt intimidating at first, the shift gave her the clarity and confidence to grow. Lydia ultimately added 18 students, left her orchestra job, and built a private music studio that supports creative fulfillment, wedding gigs, and meaningful time off.This episode is ideal for private music teachers, Suzuki instructors, violin teachers, viola teachers, cello teachers, and studio owners who want to grow their music lesson business, increase monthly income, implement flat rate tuition, and build a sustainable teaching career.

    1h 38m

  2. FEB 17

    The Mindset Behind a Growing Music Studio | Chelsea Tanner & Kelly Riordan

    In this episode, Kelly sits down with Chelsea Tanner - flute coach, mindset expert, and college audition coach, to explore how shifting from artist mindset to a true business owner can transform a private teaching studio. Chelsea shares how clarifying her lesson offer, refining her pricing, and getting clear on who she actually wanted to serve led to major growth in studio revenue and sustainability. They discuss the role of flat-rate tuition, stronger organization and communication, and the confidence that comes from treating students as clients (and not just filling spots on a schedule). Chelsea also shares how coaching and mindset work helped her raise prices, say no to misaligned opportunities, and build a studio that supports both her teaching and her work coaching flutists through college auditions. This episode is a must-listen for private music teachers who want to build a focused, aligned studio and for educators ready to step into the role of business owner. ⁠⁠⁠Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Resources For Your Private Music Studio: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OutsideTheBachs.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook Group: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Music Instructors, Piano Lesson Teachers, and Music Studio Owners

    1h 8m

  3. FEB 10

    Building a Flute Studio That Financially Supports Real Life | Anamarie Diaz & Kelly Riordan

    In this episode, Kelly sits down with Anamarie of Diaz Flute Studios to explore how building a private lesson studio can financially support a portfolio career as a musician. Starting from zero students, Anamarie shares how she grew her flute studio into a sustainable business that now supports her family, time off, and has inspired long-term financial goals for her. They discuss her early growth journey, the mindset and business skills that unlocked new opportunities, and how personal finance became a key part of her studio decisions. From hiring another teacher and planning future group offerings to performing more and creating greater flexibility, this conversation highlights how intentional studio growth can open doors far beyond the lesson room. This episode is a must-listen for private music teachers who want a studio that supports both their income and their life. ⁠⁠Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get More Students For Your Private Music Studio: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OutsideTheBachs.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook Group: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Music Instructors, Piano Lesson Teachers, and Music Studio Owners

    37 min

  4. 07/09/2025

    Run It Like A Business | Aubrey Bergauer & Kelly Riordan

    In this episode, Kelly sits down with Aubrey Bergauer to explore what it really means to run a performing arts organization like a business, without sacrificing artistic integrity. Known for her transformational leadership at arts organizations, Aubrey shares data-driven strategies for growing audiences, generating new revenue, and improving retention. They discuss the importance of the newcomer experience, how to turn first-timers into loyal supporters, and what hiring, auditions, and programming might look like for a more inclusive future. Pulling from Aubrey’s groundbreaking book Run It Like a Business, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone who wants to see the arts thrive. More about Aubrey and her book Run It Like A Business Strategies for Arts Organizations to Increase Audiences, Remain Relevant, and Multiply Money--Without Losing the Art ⁠Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get More Students For Your Private Music Studio: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OutsideTheBachs.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook Group: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Music Instructors, Piano Lesson Teachers, and Music Studio Owners

    1h 18m

  5. 08/27/2024

    How do you win an orchestra audition? | Christopher Still & Kelly Riordan

    In this episode, Kelly chats with Christopher Still, trumpet player with the Los Angeles Philharmonic and founder of Honesty Pill - a program that helps musicians win their next orchestra audition. So how can you win an orchestra audition? How many auditions does it take? And how much does it all cost? ⁠Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get More Students For Your Private Music Studio: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OutsideTheBachs.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook Group: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Music Instructors, Piano Lesson Teachers, and Music Studio Owners

    1h 7m

  6. 08/06/2024

    Why You Shouldn’t Go to Music School | Kirsten Haddox & Kelly Riordan

    In this episode, Kelly Riordan interviews Kirsten Haddox, a music major turned content creator and music marketer. The discussion reveals the alarming disparity between the number of graduates and actual job placements, the lack of education on self-promotion and entrepreneurship, and the minimal job placement or salary transparency. They highlight the grueling schedules, the lack of job security in orchestra jobs, and the significant time and money investments with little long-term gain. The conversation also tackles the elitism and toxic practice culture prevalent in music schools and the inequity faced by women in classical music. Discover what can be achieved outside traditional music education and why a music degree may not be worth it. Join us for an essential discussion on building a sustainable and fulfilling music career. Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get More Students For Your Private Music Studio: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OutsideTheBachs.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook Group: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Music Instructors, Piano Lesson Teachers, and Music Studio Owners

    2h 17m

  7. 06/13/2024

    Start Treating Your Private Music Lesson Studio Like A Business | Eric Branner & Kelly Riordan

    In this episode, Eric shares his unique story of growing up playing rock and blues guitar, and eventually transitioning to classical music at the age of 18. Discover how his grandfather, a band director and classical pianist, influenced his early musical years, and how his passion for guitar led him to pursue music at the collegiate level and to eventually start fons.com a tool for music studio management. Kelly and Eric share some insights on how you can start treating your private music lesson studio like a business, how to increase your lesson rate and how to stay organized when first starting out teaching lessons. Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get More Students For Your Private Music Studio: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OutsideTheBachs.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook Group: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Music Instructors, Piano Lesson Teachers, and Music Studio Owners

    1h 12m

  8. 04/15/2024

    Pivoting Gracefully in Ballet, Audio and Life | Austenne Grey & Kelly Riordan

    In this podcast episode, Kelly and Austenne Grey chat about Austenne’s life as a multi-passionate creative. Austenne talks about her work doing audio narration for audiobooks, shares her experiences in musical theatre and ballet, including facing adversity and how to stay positive and open to new opportunities. She explains how challenges helped her grow and learn to pivot in her career. Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get More Students For Your Private Music Studio: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OutsideTheBachs.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelly on TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook Group: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Private Music Instructors, Piano Lesson Teachers, and Music Studio Owners

    1h 15m
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We talk to musicians, artists, and creative entrepreneurs about their careers and the lessons they learned along their journey. Hosted by Kelly Riordan, co-founder of OutsideTheBachs.com OutsideTheBachs.com is a business accelerator program for musicians that are soloing or scaling in creating their own private music studios and delivering the highest quality education to their students. Scaling full-time private music studios with: ‍ - Profitable lesson packages - Predictable sources of students - Repeatable enrollment processes

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