The Middle

Andy and Roger

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In a world where only the extreme get their voice heard... How do we know where the middle is? Join us on our search for the middle. https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/

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#210 - Soft play

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 210 – Soft play Who knew a children's playground could be more hostile than a parliamentary Question Time? In this episode, Andy and Roger explore the surprisingly complicated world of playground etiquette, parenting disputes, and why adults often behave worse than the kids they're supposed to be supervising. Roger recounts a confrontation at a shopping centre playground, where a little girl hitting another child sparks a heated argument between two parents. The duo debate when it's acceptable to discipline someone else's child, whether overprotective parenting is damaging children's resilience, and how parental pride and bruised egos can turn minor incidents into major confrontations. The conversation takes a detour into the world of irresponsible dog owners, with Andy and Roger sharing stories of unleashed dogs, defensive owners, and the apparent expectation that everyone should love your four-legged friend. They also examine cultural attitudes towards respect, protective fathers, gender dynamics, and the fine line between standing up for your children and teaching them to stand up for themselves. Finally, Roger questions whether our increasingly communal urban lifestyles are really bringing people together, or simply creating more opportunities for everyone to get on each other's nerves. Hashtags: #Parenting #PlaygroundPolitics #ModernParenting #ParentingDebate #HelicopterParenting #ChildrensBehaviour #ParentingStyles #AndyAndRoger #DogOwners #DogEtiquette #PublicSpaces #SocialEtiquette #ParentingChallenges #Fatherhood #Motherhood #FamilyDynamics #ConflictResolution #CulturalDifferences #UrbanLiving #CommunityLiving #SocialDynamics #KidsAndParenting #PodcastDiscussion Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8
Oct 24

#209 - Mainstream narrative

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 209 – Mainstream narrative Is being an independent thinker really independent if you automatically disagree with everyone else? In this episode, Andy and Roger respond to a listener who questions whether contrarians are simply another kind of sheep, with Roger finding himself firmly in the firing line. The conversation explores the difference between genuine critical thinking and reflexively rejecting mainstream opinions, the appeal of conspiracy theories, and why people become so attached to their political and cultural tribes. They discuss the difficulty of changing strongly held beliefs, the role of groupthink in protest movements, and whether podcasts are encouraging thoughtful debate or simply telling audiences what they already want to hear. The discussion then turns to the decline of rational public debate, Donald Trump's influence on political discourse, and whether artificial intelligence might help people think more critically or just reinforce their existing prejudices. To put that theory to the test, Andy and Roger ask ChatGPT to analyse their political beliefs and predict which Australian political party they'd vote for. The results are surprisingly accurate in some respects and spectacularly wrong in others, particularly when Roger reveals his actual voting history. Apparently, even artificial intelligence struggles to work out where these two sit politically. Hashtags: #CriticalThinking #FreeThinking #IndependentThinking #Groupthink #PoliticalIdeology #AustralianPolitics #ArtificialIntelligence #ChatGPT #PoliticalBias #ConspiracyTheories #DonaldTrump #MediaBias #EchoChambers #PoliticalPolarisation #ChangingMinds #CognitiveBias #PoliticalIdentity #LaborParty #LiberalParty #OneNation #SocialMedia #PodcastDiscussion #AndyAndRoger Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8
Oct 17

#208 - Butt scrunch

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 208 – Butt scrunch Apparently, the biggest controversy in comedy right now is a pair of gym shorts. In this episode, Andy and Roger tackle the backlash against comedian Shane Gillis and his jokes about women's gym attire, particularly the increasingly popular scrunch-bottom shorts. They debate whether comedy should be allowed to offend, whether audiences are taking jokes too literally, and where the line sits between observational humour and misogyny. The conversation expands into the gender wars, exploring why people dress the way they do, the role of sexual attraction and social status, and whether men should be allowed to comment on women's clothing choices. Andy argues that comedy can highlight absurdity without passing moral judgement, while Roger questions whether society has lost the ability to have an honest conversation about appearance and attraction. Along the way, they discuss online outrage, male allies, Kim Kardashian's influence on beauty standards, and the difference between laughing at something and wanting it banned. Things then take an unexpected turn into the world of furries, costume etiquette and some rather questionable theories about what happens underneath the onesies. By the end, even Jerry Seinfeld isn't safe. Hashtags: #ShaneGillis #StandUpComedy #ComedyControversy #CancelCulture #GymCulture #GymFashion #ScrunchShorts #GenderWars #FreeSpeech #ComedyBoundaries #MisogynyDebate #SocialCommentary #AndyAndRoger #TheMiddlePodcast #CultureWars #OnlineOutrage #GenderDynamics #BeautyStandards #KimKardashian #MaleFemaleDynamics #PoliticalCorrectness #FurryCommunity #ObservationalComedy Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8
Oct 10

#207 - Death penalty

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 207 – Death penalty Roger returns from Movie World on the Gold Coast with stories of ageing superheroes, terrified children and stunt shows before Andy brings the mood down considerably with a discussion about the death penalty. Because nothing says light entertainment quite like a botched execution. In this episode, Andy and Roger examine the case of Christa Pike and the reported complications surrounding her execution attempt, raising questions about lethal injections, the humanity of capital punishment and whether the state should ever have the right to take someone's life. They debate the arguments for and against the death penalty, from justice for victims and their families to wrongful convictions, rehabilitation and the moral implications of state-sanctioned killing. The conversation broadens into the psychology of violent criminals, the role of mental illness and childhood trauma, and whether free will should influence how society assigns blame and punishment. From serial killers and historical figures like Hitler to the assassination of Osama bin Laden, the duo explore where justice ends and revenge begins. They also discuss the Lindsay Clancy case, the complexities of criminal responsibility and how social media and conspiracy theories can distort public perceptions of justice. Ultimately, Andy and Roger ask whether a more civilised society should prioritise punishment, rehabilitation or simply protecting the public, and whether some crimes are so horrific that even the most principled opposition to the death penalty becomes difficult to maintain. Hashtags: #DeathPenalty #CapitalPunishment #ChristaPike #LethalInjection #CriminalJustice #DeathRow #TrueCrime #JusticeSystem #HumanRights #EthicsAndMorality #FreeWill #MentalHealth #CriminalPsychology #SerialKillers #Rehabilitation #RestorativeJustice #LindsayClancy #WrongfulConvictions #USPolitics #SocialJustice #Philosophy #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8
Oct 3

#206 - Changing minds

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 206 – Changing minds Andy returns from Sydney with a new appreciation for public transport and, more surprisingly, the Toyota Camry. From there, Andy and Roger ask a question that sounds simple until you actually try to answer it: when was the last time you genuinely changed your mind? The conversation moves through belief, identity and contrarianism, as Roger reflects on growing up religious, sincerely believing in God, and eventually leaving those beliefs behind. Andy considers his own Catholic upbringing and whether the same instinct that makes someone question religion can also make them more willing to challenge the prevailing view. Naturally, an attempt to talk about religion eventually becomes another discussion about Israel and Gaza. Andy and Roger debate responsibility for the war, Hamas and the October 7 attacks, Israel’s military response, civilian suffering, hostages, radicalisation and what any realistic path towards long-term peace might involve. They disagree over where responsibility should fall, whether diplomacy was given enough of a chance, and how Gaza could eventually be rebuilt and governed — arriving, somehow, at KPMG consultants and the Toyota Camry. Hashtags: #ChangingYourMind #Religion #Belief #Contrarianism #IdentityPolitics #IsraelGaza #Israel #Gaza #Hamas #MiddleEast #October7 #PeaceProcess #PoliticalDebate #MoralResponsibility #Radicalisation #Indoctrination #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion #AustralianPodcast #TheMiddlePodcast Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8
Sep 26

#205 - Is it rael?

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 205 – Is it rael? Roger goes to the pub, has a few too many drinks and somehow ends up taking the Israel-Palestine conflict home with him. From there, Andy and Roger unpack what happens when political disagreement stops being about competing interpretations and starts being about whether people can agree on the basic facts at all. They discuss the polarisation surrounding Israel and Gaza, October 7, the Hannibal Directive, accusations of genocide, civilian casualties and the increasingly fraught question of Israel’s legitimacy. The conversation also turns to antisemitism in Australia following the Bondi terror attack, shifting attitudes among younger people, the politics of the United Nations, Zohran Mamdani and Benjamin Netanyahu, and the reluctance of political tribes to condemn abuses committed by their own side. Andy and Roger also wrestle with competing claims to the land, colonialism and indigeneity, whether history offers any useful moral clarity, and the uncomfortable reality that Israelis and Palestinians ultimately have to find a way to live alongside one another. There are no neat answers, although relocating a second Jewish state to the Northern Territory does briefly enter the discussion. Hashtags:#IsraelPalestine #IsraelGazaWar #Gaza #October7 #MiddleEast #BenjaminNetanyahu #ZohranMamdani #Antisemitism #Bondi #AustralianPolitics #USPolitics #UnitedNations #PoliticalPolarisation #Geopolitics #TwoStateSolution #Hamas #Israel #Palestine #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion Engage with us on social media: Website:http://themiddle.site/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter:https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email:the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website:http://themiddle.site/ Or click:https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8
Sep 19

#204 - Mackle No More

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 204 - Mackle-no-more Apparently the safest way to survive a pop tour in 2026 is to say absolutely nothing — although even that can now get you into trouble. Andy and Roger start by asking whether “peak woke” really is over, looking at the growing profile of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), dissatisfaction with mainstream politics, and why more radical political movements can become attractive when people decide the status quo is no longer working. The conversation then turns to a reported controversy involving Ed Sheeran and Macklemore, after Macklemore used a support slot to promote the Palestinian cause and criticise Israel’s actions in Gaza. Andy and Roger debate celebrity activism, whether an Ed Sheeran concert is the place for political campaigning, the difference between criticism and cancellation, and the pressure on public figures to take a position — including the increasingly familiar argument that silence itself amounts to a statement. They also wrestle with the complexity of Israel, Gaza and Hamas, the limits of slogans such as “Free Palestine”, and whether political advocacy becomes less persuasive when it leaves no room for the agency or responsibility of the other side. Along the way, P!nk, Robert Kraft and Roger Waters enter the discussion, as does Macklemore’s past controversy involving a costume criticised as a Jewish stereotype. Hashtags: #CancelCulture #EdSheeran #Macklemore #CelebrityActivism #FreePalestine #IsraelGaza #GazaWar #PoliticalActivism #DSA #DemocraticSocialistsOfAmerica #WokeCulture #CultureWars #FreedomOfSpeech #MusicPolitics #Antisemitism #RogerWaters #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8
Sep 12

#203 - Armageddon

🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 203 – Armageddon Andy and Roger ask the reassuring question of whether humanity might be heading for Armageddon, and whether all those reassuring statistics about the world getting better are missing the bigger picture. Starting with Steven Pinker’s case for human progress, they move quickly into AI, technological risk, political instability and the possibility that civilisation can be improving on paper while becoming considerably less comfortable in practice. The conversation turns to whether AI has already passed the point where governments can meaningfully control it, what happens to inequality when machines can replace more human labour, and whether the next generation of “AI natives” will leave the rest of us looking like someone’s dad trying to open an email attachment. Andy and Roger also debate whether smartphones and algorithms are fundamentally anti-human, why modern life keeps becoming more complicated, and whether opting out of the race is really possible. Finally, they make some predictions about what we may soon outsource to AI: jobs, friendships, massages, medical examinations and, inevitably, podcasts. Which raises an uncomfortable question — how do you know you’re not listening to an AI podcast already? Hashtags: #ArtificialIntelligence #AI #FutureOfAI #Technology #ChatGPT #AIAutomation #FutureOfWork #AIJobs #SocialMedia #Smartphones #Humanity #ExistentialRisk #TechCulture #Automation #DigitalLife #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion #ArtificialGeneralIntelligence #FutureOfHumanity #AIRevolution Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

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Welcome to The Middle

Welcome to The Middle Podcast with Andy and Roger

In a world where only the extreme get their voice heard... How do we know where the middle is? Join us on our search for the middle. https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/

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Andy and Roger
Years Active

2022 - 2026
Episodes

217
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