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  1. Davis Nguyen: The Human Hustle Factor, Layered Like an Onion, Future Billionaire

    06/03/2025

    Davis Nguyen: The Human Hustle Factor, Layered Like an Onion, Future Billionaire

    Hi there, you’re listening to Pei Pals, and today I’m interviewing my friend Davis. Davis, for lack of a better word, is an alien. And I mean that with affection—truly, in the most positive way possible. I later discovered that whatever I I was feeling is the feeling of being in the presence of a future billionaire. They're just built different. I met Davis over Korean BBQ a few years ago when I was based in Taipei, and as I mentioned—it was instant confusion. Is this guy for real? Is his brain composed of TSMC processors, and his heart a humming motherboard? But I quickly learned he’s one of the most caring, considerate, and generous people I’ve ever met. And the more you learn about him, the more it all makes sense. He’s a true onion in that respect—layer after layer, but at the center, a chewy, gooey, golden nugget. Who else do you know who set going to Harvard as a goal when he was six—while basically living in poverty, with occasional blackouts from unpaid electric bills? Or who gave to charity and supported his entire family with his very first paychecks out of university? Actually, Davis is the person who inspired me to start giving more to charity, which eventually led to the creation of my nonprofit Baan Books (Thai for House of Books) and everything that followed. We don’t talk about work much, because if you know me, you know I usually find that the least interesting part of most people. Let’s just say this: Davis is determined to make an impact, change lives, and inspire—and he’s already doing all of that, very successfully. Thanks, Davis!

    57 min
  2. Bondipity: Thai Michael Buble, IHOP Expert (Not What You Think), Ambiguously Accented, Highly Anticipates Fatherhood

    12/08/2024

    Bondipity: Thai Michael Buble, IHOP Expert (Not What You Think), Ambiguously Accented, Highly Anticipates Fatherhood

    Take one listen to this guy’s voice. He just sounds like a singer, doesn’t he? Bondipity, or Bond as I call him, is a singer based in Bangkok. He'ss what you’d call a gigging musician, in that he performs everywhere around town, from hotels, to lounges, to clubs, to bars. But like all performers, the onstage persona and the real him have some real differences. What you see is not necessarily what you get. Bond grew up in Bangkok, but plot twist - went to study music at a bible school in the midwest of the US of all places. There he picked up one version of his English accent, made friends, made enemies, and had his first brush with the law. Upon moving back to Bangkok, he decided to embark on his lifelong dream of becoming a musician.  I met Bond through mutual friends. Though Bangok has 12-15 million people depending on who you ask, there are small bubbles of expats and people who have lived abroad that share similar more western values and culture contexts. To illustrate, we met, and then the next week, I went to a cafe, and it just happened to be the cafe where Bond worked in his corporate-ish day job. I loved this deep dive into the artist's mind. Of course we talk about his musical process, the plans for his upcoming album, and who his musical influences are. Then we go a layer deeper into the mind of Bondipity, chatting about his family background, the normal human thirst for validation, his life coach, and the big moments that made him really, really, really want to become a father in the future. Thanks, Bond!

    1h 4m
  3. Giang Nguyen: Low-Tier Feminist, the Most Third Culture Kid Ever, Lover of Rock Bottoms, Had Direct Conversations with God (But No Longer)

    09/18/2024

    Giang Nguyen: Low-Tier Feminist, the Most Third Culture Kid Ever, Lover of Rock Bottoms, Had Direct Conversations with God (But No Longer)

    I met Giang when I was in Vietnam for a friend's wedding. In fact, I ended up being this friend’s best man at his wedding, which I discovered only 1-2 days beforehand. Thank you my Finnish brother. I remember the first time I met her, she would continually ask me "why" and "tell me more" and "and then"? It made me slightly defensive. After getting to know her better, I realized that its just her insatiable curiosity taking over. When she first met me, I do believe I offended her because she thought I was being critical. After getting to know me better, she realized that it’s just my habit of observing the world out loud without attaching a judgment to it. And now we're friends. Gaing has been around the world more than me, speaks more languages than me, has started more businesses than me, has danced longer than me, and owns a cat named cat. She’s hard to put in a nutshell, because if you told her that, she would probably say “Hey, it’s really cramped in this nutshell, can i be somewhere else?”  Another thing she’s better than me at is meditation, and i actually catch her right after she does a 10-day meditation retreat in the middle of Thailand. This conversation goes deep – on family of origin and complex Asian family dynamics, using tragedy as the most powerful motivator ever, the consequences/benefits of attending 12-ish schools in her life, and her relationship with God as a 5-year old. Thanks Giang!

    1h 9m
  4. Darren Lin: Director/Janitor, Divorce Expert, Hopeless Romantic, Blue Collar Aspirant

    05/29/2024

    Darren Lin: Director/Janitor, Divorce Expert, Hopeless Romantic, Blue Collar Aspirant

    Darren was my Chinese tutor when I was living in Taipei. But that means that it was a bit one-sided, in that he would ask me questions, and I would do the bulk of the talking because it was about me practicing. Here I even the scales and interview him. Darren is what I would call a blue-collar auteur. Translation: he actually produces films and documentaries in Taiwan, but intentionally takes on so-called blue collar jobs in order to have a different range of experiences to draw upon for his films. Last I recall is that he was just living with a tribe of aboriginals in the mountains, doing who knows what. Prior to that, he was working as a cook in a noodle restaurant. This conversation is actually nothing special, in the sense that we have these types of conversations each time we connect. It’s no surprise that for both of us, before sunrise is one of our favorite films. It’s one of the quintessential “talking films” which just means that it’s a two hour long conversation. And if you think about this podcast that I really love making, well you know that’s right up my alley. In this episode, Darren has a therapeutic breakthrough and discovers how watching two divorces has impacted his relationships, we contrast life in different Asian mega cities, of course we talk about the emotional constipation of Asia, and why it’s so important to remain a romantic. Thanks Darren!

    55 min

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