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Interviews with successful leaders and company founders sharing stories of their career journey, great leadership, and not-so-great. It will help you become a better leader while poking fun at all the crazy shit that happens in corporate America. Hosted by Jeff Pelaccio who has over 40 years of leadership experience for every t-shirt size company - Small (4 employees) to XL (over 1 million employees). Listen, learn, and laugh each week to learn from great leaders from all walks of life.

  1. 2d ago

    Back on the Couch: What Song Is Your Culture Singing? with Claude Silver

    Claude Silver is back on The Corporate Couch. And there was plenty to talk about. Since our first conversation, Claude’s book Be Yourself at Work has been released, and I was curious about what she’s learned since putting all of those ideas out into the world. Turns out, her thinking has continued to evolve. Claude is still passionate about bringing more humanity into the workplace, but now she’s thinking even bigger: What makes an organization healthy? How do you create a culture where people can actually perform at their best? We talk about emotional optimism, emotional bravery, trust, belonging, culture addition versus culture fit, and why employees shouldn’t feel like they have to prove themselves all over again after you’ve already hired them. Claude also tells a great story about something Gary Vaynerchuk said to her that didn’t sit right. Instead of spending the entire weekend pissed off about it, she called him. That conversation ended up bringing them closer. We also get into the small moments that really build culture, the challenge of creating belonging across a global organization, and one of my favorite Claude lines: A bad leader leaves a mess. A good leader leaves a mark. A great leader leaves a map. And because this is Claude, music finds its way into the conversation too. So here’s a question worth asking: What song is your culture singing?   To learn more about Claude, please visit ClaudeSilver.com.   This episode is brought to you by... Pelaccio & Partners. Ever wish your company updates could be less “quarterly earnings report” and more “late-night talk show”? At Pelaccio & Partners, we help leaders stay connected to their people as their organizations grow. We create internal podcasts that make leadership communication more human, give employees a voice, and help build a more connected and engaged workforce. Think less corporate broadcast. More conversation people actually want to hear. Whether your employees are across the hall or across the country, an internal podcast can keep leaders visible, employees connected, and important messages from getting buried in the inbox. Curious what one could look like for your organization? Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or schedule a 15-minute call with Jeff.

  2. Oct 19

    No Perfect Information: Leading Under Pressure with Jeremy Boss

    Jeremy Boss (bio below) has spent much of his career making sense of situations most of us would prefer to watch safely from our couch. China. Afghanistan. Yemen. The Houthis. Gray-zone conflicts. And apparently, dynasty fantasy baseball. After joining the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Jeremy expected years to learn the ropes. Instead, it was basically: Glad you’re here. We have a crisis. Jeremy went on to monitor Chinese military activity, support combat operations in Afghanistan, and work the Yemen-Houthi crisis, where a 12-hour shift could mean 11½ hours of boredom followed by 30 minutes of sheer terror.  One of his biggest lessons? When pressure rises, leaders often pull decisions toward themselves. Jeremy believes the better move is frequently the opposite: stay calm, trust the expertise around you, distribute authority, and stop believing the person with the biggest title needs every answer. That thinking led Jeremy to create Black Horizon, where leaders are dropped into live crisis simulations and forced to make decisions with incomplete information and real pressure. Think leadership development without 74 PowerPoint slides and awkward role-playing. Jeff and Jeremy talk about uncertainty, trust, ego, geopolitical risk, decision-making under pressure, and Jeremy’s concept of collective cognition: using the expertise of the entire team instead of expecting one heroic leader to know everything. jeremy boss-jeff Because eventually every leader faces the same reality: You won’t have perfect information. You still have to make the call.   This episode is brought to you by... Pelaccio & Partners. Ever wish your company updates could be less “quarterly earnings report” and more “late-night talk show”? At Pelaccio & Partners, we help leaders stay connected to their people as their organizations grow. We create internal podcasts that make leadership communication more human, give employees a voice, and help build a more connected and engaged workforce. Think less corporate broadcast. More conversation people actually want to hear. Whether your employees are across the hall or across the country, an internal podcast can keep leaders visible, employees connected, and important messages from getting buried in the inbox. Curious what one could look like for your organization? Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or schedule a 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Jeremy: Jeremy Boss is the founder of Black Horizon, an experiential leadership training company that puts leaders inside live, unscripted geopolitical crisis simulations to build their capacity for decision-making under real pressure. Jeremy spent 14 years at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, where he worked on grey-zone conflicts in the South China Sea, supported combat operations in Afghanistan, and ultimately led the analytic team tracking the Yemen-Houthi crisis — one of the most consequential regional escalations of the past decade. Before founding Black Horizon, he spent roughly a decade co-running Waymark Intelligence Solutions, designing and delivering geopolitical simulations for intelligence analysts.​    Black Horizon grew directly out of that experience. After years inside high-stakes crisis work, Jeremy noticed that the skills that mattered most — decision-making under pressure, leading through ambiguity, thinking clearly when information is incomplete — almost never got trained deliberately. They got stumbled into. Black Horizon exists to close that gap.​ Simulations run inside a proprietary 2035 universe spanning 20+ nations, using a DIME (Diplomatic, Informational, Military, Economic) framework with live human adjudication — meaning participant decisions genuinely cascade and shape what opposing teams face next, with no scripted outcomes to game. Jeremy holds a Master's degree in Government and Politics from the University of Maryland.

  3. Oct 11

    Jay Abbasi: Stop Chasing. Start Serving

    Jay Abbasi (see bio below) spent years doing what ambitious people are supposed to do. Work harder. Say yes. Keep moving. Chase the next thing. At one point, that meant working midnight to 8 a.m., going to graduate school, working another job on weekends, neglecting his health, and watching his marriage suffer. Then his father died unexpectedly at 55. That changed the questions Jay was asking. Instead of “How do I accomplish more?”, he started asking: What am I doing all of this for? That search eventually took Jay through renewable energy, Tesla, four promotions in six years, mindfulness, coaching, entrepreneurship, keynote speaking, and his podcast, Unstuck. Jeff and Jay talk about what Tesla taught him about adapting when everything changes overnight, why Jay voluntarily left during a round of layoffs to save someone else’s job, and how surrendering instead of forcing his next career move unexpectedly led to starting his own business. jay abbasi-jeff They also get into mindfulness without the incense-and-cushion requirement, why human communication matters even more in the age of AI, and one leadership lesson Jay learned the hard way: Acknowledge before you solve.  And because this was a podcast swap, Jay gets off The Corporate Couch only to put Jeff on Unstuck later that same day. Apparently, neither of us understands healthy podcast boundaries :-) This is a conversation about ambition, burnout, loss, adaptability, mindfulness, leadership, surrender, and learning that sometimes getting unstuck starts when you stop pushing so damn hard.   This episode is brought to you by... Pelaccio & Partners. Ever wish your company updates could be less “quarterly earnings report” and more “late-night talk show”? At Pelaccio & Partners, we help leaders stay connected to their people as their organizations grow. We create internal podcasts that make leadership communication more human, give employees a voice, and help build a more connected and engaged workforce. Think less corporate broadcast. More conversation people actually want to hear. Whether your employees are across the hall or across the country, an internal podcast can keep leaders visible, employees connected, and important messages from getting buried in the inbox. Curious what one could look like for your organization? Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or schedule a 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Jay: Jay Abbasi is a global keynote speaker, TEDx speaker, coach, and former Tesla leader who helps professionals thrive under pressure without burning out. At Tesla, he led national training programs for over 1,000 employees, and has since coached leaders at Google, Amazon, TikTok, Wells Fargo, and many more. He’s been featured in Forbes Founder, Authority Magazine, and Medium, and is the host of the top-rated podcast Unstuck with Jay Abbasi. Blending corporate experience with deep expertise in mindfulness, resilience, andwell-being, Jay offers a powerful message: success isn’t about avoiding challenges, but mastering them with clarity, energy, and purpose.

  4. Oct 5

    Back on the Couch: Help Me Think Through This with Mary Messner

    Mary Messner is back on The Corporate Couch. Again. At this point, she may need her own parking space. Mary returns with her new book, Help Me Think Through This (https://a.co/d/06Af484P), built around a simple idea: creativity is not just for artists or designers. It is the courage to keep going in a new and different way. Jeff and Mary talk about where that idea came from, including the wonderfully strange story of a failed band called Wicked Lester that reinvented itself with face paint, wigs, new names, and a slightly more memorable identity: KISS. They also unpack Mary’s idea to “stand on your own circle,” her Highline framework for moving forward when you do not have the entire route figured out, and why saying “help me think through this” is so different from asking someone to solve your problem. The conversation also gets into TED Talks, keynote speeches that bomb, ghostwriters, deleting 10,000 words from your own book, asking better questions, and learning to say: I don’t know how to do this yet. This is a conversation about creativity, courage, experimentation, purpose, asking for help, and putting something into the world before you are completely sure how it will turn out.   At Pelaccio & Partners, we help leaders stay connected to their people as their organizations grow. We create internal podcasts that make leadership communication more human, give employees a voice, and help build a more connected and engaged workforce. Think less corporate broadcast. More conversation people actually want to hear. Whether your employees are across the hall or across the country, an internal podcast can keep leaders visible, employees connected, and important messages from getting buried in the inbox. Curious what one could look like for your organization? Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or schedule a 15-minute call with Jeff.

  5. Sep 28

    George Brooks: Build the Company. Get Out of the Way.

    George Brooks (bio below) built Crema almost by accident. Then, 18 years later, he did something that may have been even harder: He left it for two months. Completely. No email. No checking the pipeline. No “just one quick question” from the founder. And when George returned from his sabbatical, the company was doing just fine. Actually, better than fine. That created a much bigger question: If the company can thrive without you, who should you be when you come back? George’s path to entrepreneurship was hardly textbook. He left college, taught himself design, worked a job he hated to support his wife through nursing school, and eventually started freelancing largely because he needed to stay close to his premature daughter, who spent the first seven months of her life in the hospital. Then came one of my favorite startup stories. A potential client asked George to propose a redesign of a massive healthcare website. He did some back-of-the-napkin math, slid a proposal across the table for $400,000, and they said yes. George’s reaction was basically: Excellent. Followed immediately by: Well, shit. Now I actually have to do this. That project helped turn freelancing into Crema and eventually a company that grew to around 60 people. George and I talk about building a culture where people can do the best work of their lives, why great leaders should destroy bottlenecks instead of becoming one, how sabbaticals can expose weaknesses in an organization, and why being great at reacting to everything may not actually mean you’re leading effectively. We also get into AI, human-centered technology, curiosity, “humble confidence,” sleep, rest, and George’s wonderfully counterintuitive advice for young professionals: Ignorance can be a superpower. Ask dumb questions. Make terrible work. Keep learning. Because terrible work eventually becomes better work. This is a conversation about entrepreneurship, culture, leadership, family, rest, reinvention, and the strange moment when a founder realizes one of the greatest signs of success may be that everything doesn’t fall apart when he leaves.   This episode is brought to you by... Pelaccio & Partners. Ever wish your company updates could be less “quarterly earnings report” and more “late-night talk show”? At Pelaccio & Partners, we help leaders stay connected to their people as their organizations grow. We create internal podcasts that make leadership communication more human, give employees a voice, and help build a more connected and engaged workforce. Think less corporate broadcast. More conversation people actually want to hear. Whether your employees are across the hall or across the country, an internal podcast can keep leaders visible, employees connected, and important messages from getting buried in the inbox. Curious what one could look like for your organization? Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or schedule a 15-minute call with Jeff.   About George: George Brooks is driven by bringing together creative and innovative teams to do the best work of their lives, especially in the era of AI. As CEO of Crema, he stands by the idea that he's in the business of people. His passion for people has led to the sought-after environment inside Crema.  Crema has served brands like Adidas and H&R Block, top global consultancies, global private equity firms, and cybersecurity providers from around the world.   Currently, George is the co-host and facilitator of the People of Product podcast. He's often found having a cup of coffee with other business leaders who are trying to navigate and adapt in an ever-changing world.

  6. Sep 21

    Bad Bosses, Better Leadership, and Calling Your Own Shots with Steve Jorgenson

    Steve Jorgenson (see bio below) has had an interesting career. Law school. An MBA. Government contracts. Staffing and recruiting. Entrepreneurship. Hockey. Rugby. Remote work around the world. And more than a few bosses who provided excellent examples of how not to lead. In this conversation, Jeff talks with Steve about growing up outside Chicago, being a spectacularly unenthusiastic high school student, eventually earning both a JD and MBA, and navigating a career filled with difficult managers, big responsibilities, entrepreneurial swings, and a few hard-earned lessons. Steve shares what it was like managing a $200 million government contract in his twenties, building trust with an employee who initially wanted nothing to do with him, and repeatedly finding himself in workplaces where truth-telling and new ideas were not always welcomed. He also talks about launching his first company, learning some painful lessons when business partners betrayed his trust, and why those experiences helped shape his newest venture, Poach Prevent, a company designed to help businesses protect themselves from having recruiting partners poach the very employees they are being paid to help hire. Along the way, Steve explains why the best boss of his career earned his trust by giving him room to do his job, why managers should be resources rather than roadblocks, and why great leaders give credit away instead of hoarding it like leftover Halloween candy. This is a conversation about bad bosses, good leadership, entrepreneurship, trust, resilience, remote work, career reinvention, and what happens when you finally realize work does not have to feel miserable. And yes, we also cover rugby in Ireland, hockey dreams, hip replacement at 35, working abroad with your spouse for months at a time, dog summer camp, signing a contract with the NHL, and canceling a $600 wing-walking adventure because apparently standing on top of an airplane without doing barrel rolls was not exciting enough.   This episode is brought to you by... Pelaccio & Partners. Ever wish your company updates could be less “quarterly earnings report” and more “late-night talk show”? At Pelaccio & Partners, we help leaders stay connected to their people as their organizations grow. We create internal podcasts that make leadership communication more human, give employees a voice, and help build a more connected and engaged workforce. Think less corporate broadcast. More conversation people actually want to hear. Whether your employees are across the hall or across the country, an internal podcast can keep leaders visible, employees connected, and important messages from getting buried in the inbox. Curious what one could look like for your organization? Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or schedule a 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Steve: Steve Jorgenson is the founder of Poach Prevent, a first-of-its-kind compliance auditing tool designed to bring more transparency to non-solicit agreements between external recruiters and their clients. He is also the Global Director of Legal Operations and Data Privacy Officer at The Planet Group, with deep experience across recruiting, staffing, contracts, compliance, and entrepreneurship. With a JD and MBA, Steve brings a practical business lens to complex legal and operational challenges. Outside of work, he and his wife have embraced remote work and global travel, spending much of the past several years living and working abroad.

  7. Sep 14

    From Laminating ID Cards to the C-Suite with Diankha Linear

    Diankha Linear’s career (see bio below) did not exactly begin with a polished five-year plan. It started with a red hope chest, a flight from Seattle to Washington, D.C., and the discovery that she had forgotten to apply for housing and complete the FAFSA. So naturally, she joined the Army. In this episode, Jeff talks with Diankha about a remarkable career that moved from humble beginnings in West Seattle to military service, airborne school, law school at the University of Pennsylvania, big law, in-house leadership, tech startups, the C-suite, CEO roles, and major board leadership. Diankha shares how school became her haven, why fairness and justice pulled her toward the law, and how the Army transformed from “temporary college funding plan” into one of the most important chapters of her life. She also talks about becoming a JAG officer, learning logistics and leadership, making the jump from lawyer to operator, and discovering that she did not just want to advise decision-makers. She wanted to be in the room where the decisions were made. Jeff and Diankha also dig into Nordstrom’s culture, Convoy’s startup intensity, board leadership, risk in the age of AI and cybersecurity, and her newest venture, Tribute, a purpose-driven elder care concept with what she calls “Golden Girls energy.” This is a conversation about reinvention, ambition, service, leadership, curiosity, judgment, resilience, and what happens when someone refuses to stay in just one lane. And yes, we also cover driving ranges, physics rabbit holes, Audible badges, blackberry soup, Kmart fishing poles, Thurgood Marshall, LinkedIn Easy Apply, the Nordstrom employee discount, and why leading people with appreciation and respect is not optional unless you enjoy being quietly sabotaged.   This episode is brought to you by... Pelaccio & Partners. Ever wish your company updates could be less “quarterly earnings report” and more “late-night talk show”? At Pelaccio & Partners, we help leaders stay connected to their people as their organizations grow. We create internal podcasts that make leadership communication more human, give employees a voice, and help build a more connected and engaged workforce. Think less corporate broadcast. More conversation people actually want to hear. Whether your employees are across the hall or across the country, an internal podcast can keep leaders visible, employees connected, and important messages from getting buried in the inbox. Curious what one could look like for your organization? Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or schedule a 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Diankha: Diankha Linear is a senior executive, operator, and board director with more than 25 years of experience leading across highly regulated technology, logistics, retail, and healthcare organizations. She currently serves on the Board of Directors and as Risk Committee Chair for Lumen Technologies, Board Chair for Swedish Health Services, and Chairperson of Seattle Hospitality Group.​  Previously, Diankha served as President and CEO of Community, Inc., a customer engagement technology company, and held executive leadership roles at Convoy, Nordstrom, and Expeditors International. Her leadership foundation also includes 16 years of military education and training as an Army Airborne/Paratrooper, Civil Affairs, Special Operations, and JAG officer. Throughout her career, Diankha has been a passionate advocate for youth, health equity, and education, serving on multiple nonprofit boards and community organizations.tion.

  8. Sep 7

    When the Map Runs Out: Leading Beyond the Uniform with Milford “Beags” Beagle

    Milford “Beags” Beagle (bio below) has spent his life getting over hurdles. Sometimes literally. Before he became a senior U.S. Army leader with a 35-year career, Beags was a kid from small-town South Carolina who admired his truck-driving father, played in the woods, broke his mom’s chairs practicing hurdle technique, and became a state champion hurdler. That combination of blue-collar grit, athletic discipline, and comfort with hard things eventually led him into the Army, where he discovered a new kind of team. In this episode, Jeff talks with Beags about what it means to wear “the cloth of our nation,” how his military career shaped his leadership philosophy, and why the transition from military service to the private sector is not about leaving leadership behind. It is about translating it. Beags shares stories from his first days as a young platoon leader, when he was suddenly responsible for more than 30 soldiers before he was even old enough to legally drink. He also reflects on leading at scale, including the challenge of influencing thousands of people across multiple layers of an organization. The conversation also covers his powerful Fort Jackson story, where Beags commanded the same post where his great-grandfather trained during World War I, exactly 100 years later. It is a remarkable full-circle moment about history, progress, service, and legacy. Jeff and Beags also talk about truth tellers, the danger of leaders getting trapped in a “cone of silence,” why feedback is the breakfast of champions, and why great leaders should be data-informed, not data-driven. This is a conversation about service, humility, uncertainty, leadership, reinvention, and why the best leaders keep moving even when the map runs out. And yes, we also cover 18-wheelers, “steel and sex appeal,” broken living room chairs, getting voted off the island and finding your way back, “how to handle me” documents, climate as the front door to culture, and why you lead people but manage systems and processes.   This episode is brought to you by... Pelaccio & Partners. Ever wish your company updates could be less “quarterly earnings report” and more “late-night talk show”? At Pelaccio & Partners, we help leaders stay connected to their people as their organizations grow. We create internal podcasts that make leadership communication more human, give employees a voice, and help build a more connected and engaged workforce. Think less corporate broadcast. More conversation people actually want to hear. Whether your employees are across the hall or across the country, an internal podcast can keep leaders visible, employees connected, and important messages from getting buried in the inbox. Curious what one could look like for your organization? Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn or schedule a 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Beags: Milford H. “Beags” Beagle Jr. is a retired U.S. Army Lieutenant General, leadership advisor, and organizational strategist with more than 35 years of experience leading transformation inside some of the nation’s largest and most complex institutions.​  As the former Commanding General of the U.S. Army Combined Arms Center and Fort Leavenworth, Beags led the Army’s professional military education, leader development, doctrine, and training integration enterprise, influencing more than 200,000 learners annually and modernization efforts impacting more than 1.5 million personnel worldwide. Today, he advises public and private sector organizations on leadership, organizational effectiveness, strategic alignment, and the human side of transformation, helping leaders turn complexity into clarity and strategy into action.

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Interviews with successful leaders and company founders sharing stories of their career journey, great leadership, and not-so-great. It will help you become a better leader while poking fun at all the crazy shit that happens in corporate America. Hosted by Jeff Pelaccio who has over 40 years of leadership experience for every t-shirt size company - Small (4 employees) to XL (over 1 million employees). Listen, learn, and laugh each week to learn from great leaders from all walks of life.

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