Grown & Growing by Keion and Shaunie Henderson

Keion Henderson, Shaunie Henderson
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Grown & Growing by Keion and Shaunie Henderson features media mogul Shaunie and husband Keion Henderson. The two hold no punches, deliver powerful relationship insights, actionable real-life advice, and revealing moments in their development as a power couple in the spiritual and culture spaces.

  1. Aug 13

    Artificial Intimacy: Relationships in the Algorithm Era

    What if you had to date your spouse in the age of TikTok, ChatGPT, and DM culture? In this episode of *Grown & Growing*, Keion and Shaunie Henderson unpack what love, commitment, and intimacy look like when algorithms are running the room. They get into: - Why this generation has more information about relationships than ever — and more confusion - Raising kids (especially sons) who aren't in a rush to marry or start families - The difference between real love and "cultural love" when the butterflies fade - Choosing a co-parent carefully, and why picky isn't shallow - Deal breakers, dinner-table pet peeves, and the missing-front-tooth debate - Why you don't really know someone until you live under the same roof - How AI, DMs, and voice notes are quietly replacing real conversation - Phone calls, anxiety, and the lost art of just talking It's honest, funny, and a little uncomfortable in the best way — a conversation about protecting real intimacy in a world built for shortcuts. Subscribe and share this one with someone who needs to put the phone down.Go to https://baskandlatherco.com and use code SHAUNIE for 20% off.Download Cash App Today: https://cash.app/ #CashAppPod. Timestamps 02:12 Dating in the age of algorithms 03:59 A generation that doesn't want marriage 05:36 Raising kids in the digital intimacy era 09:04 When the butterflies fade 10:39 The chewing test — small quirks, big deal breakers 12:20 The missing tooth hypothetical 15:33 Why real love requires patience 18:50 Ride or die in public, talk about it later 21:00 Wanting perfection while offering less 23:41 Why online dating can't replace real conflict 28:44 Prompting AI instead of speaking authentically 31:07 How this generation can build real intimacy 33:56 The lost art of the phone call 36:00 Voice notes vs. real conversationCash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Savings provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  2. Jul 30

    The Trap of “Soft Life” vs. The Grind of Greatness

    Is the "soft life" real growth — or a slow way of avoiding responsibility? In this episode, Keion and Shaunie unpack the difference between protecting your peace and dodging the hard work greatness actually requires. From parking lot standoffs to holding doors for strangers who don't say thanks, Shaunie makes it clear: she's not looking for smoke, but she's for it. Meanwhile, Keion breaks down why he's less addicted to work and more addicted to outcomes. What we get into: - The real definition of "soft life" — and where it starts costing you - Rest vs. laziness (and why the difference matters) - Sabbath vs. quitting — a biblical take - How avoiding conflict shaped their kids, and what changed - Whether greatness is defined by you or by the people watching - Shaunie's athletic résumé (and Keion's honest review) A conversation about pursuing peace without abandoning the grind — with plenty of laughs along the way. If this one hit home, share it with someone who needs to hear it. Chapters 00:38 Keion claims he's an open book 02:01 Defining "the soft life" 03:31 When avoiding conflict becomes avoiding responsibility 04:44 Shaunie: "I'm for the smoke" 05:24 The Walgreens parking spot test 06:46 The pizza shop door-holding story 08:19 Rest vs. laziness 09:43 Sabbath vs. quitting 11:21 The "one mile" debate 14:10 Shaunie's targeted workout philosophy 15:17 Identifying the softlifter in your circle 18:50 Work isn't an idol, outcomes are 21:35 Greatness costs everything 22:49 Who gets to decide what's great? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  3. Jul 16

    Protect Your Marriage: The Surprising Power of Social Circles

    Are your friends quietly rewriting your love story? What if the people in your circle were impacting your relationship more than you ever imagined? Today, Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson pull back the curtain on the hidden ways our friends, family, and social circles can influence everything from marital satisfaction to the dramatic rise in divorce rates. This conversation dives deep, drawing on surprising research and lived experience, to show how the company you keep might be shaping your relationship expectations, boundaries, and even your happiness.You’ll walk away with:- Powerful insights on how divorce and relationship trends actually spread through friend groups- Candid stories about protecting your marriage (or partnership) energy- The truth about “inheriting” relationship standards from family or friends- Real talk about when to support friends in crisis—and when to set boundaries to guard your peace- How to remain intentional, not reactive, no matter what’s happening in your social circleDon’t let what’s around you mess up what’s yours. Hit follow and join us for honest takes, lessons learned, and a few laughs along the way!Timestamps00:52 The friend who caught the divorce02:03 Complaints as fuel vs. fuel for doubt04:10 A 125% chance of catching it04:35 Lean in or back away?06:24 Extended circles and John's cooties07:13 Golf buddies and the blessing effect08:19 Confessions of a single wrangler09:31 Inherited standards from our parents10:36 Why grandparents give better advice12:31 Marriage as a collision of two histories13:15 The needy husband I don't have14:40 Picky wife, silent husband at dinner18:22 Leaving the pastor's calls at the door Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  4. Jul 2

    Church Conflicts, Generational Gaps, and Why People Walk Away

    Why are so many young women leaving the church—not because they've lost faith, but because of how they're treated? In this probing episode, Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson tackle the generational divide that's shaking church communities and workplaces everywhere. The issue isn't just about doctrine—it's about culture, communication, and how we deal with correction and critique. Get ready for a candid conversation that unpacks what it really means to lead and grow across generational and cultural lines. Whether you've ever felt dismissed or misunderstood, or you're struggling to connect with a new generation at work or church, this episode shines a light on where we’re coming up short—and how we can do better. Key takeaways: Why criticism of behavior—not belief—is causing so many young women to leave church How trauma and life experience shape how we give and receive correction The impact of generational differences on trust, leadership, and community The push-and-pull between needing recognition and expecting resilience Practical questions leaders and followers must face to grow together Don’t miss this honest, urgent dialogue. If you found value, subscribe and grow with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  5. Jun 18

    Golf, Burnout, and Boundaries: Can Hobbies Heal Your Relationship?

    Can something as simple as slowing down change your life—or your relationship? On this episode of Grown and Growing, Keion Henderson and Shaunie Henderson dive headfirst into how America’s obsession with hustle is creating a craving for slower, more intentional moments—often found on the golf course. From pandemic burnout to the curious language of golf, nothing is off-limits in this hilarious, honest, and relatable conversation. You’ll laugh, nod along, and maybe rethink how you wind down (or how you support your partner’s passion). What you’ll discover: Why golf is booming in the era of burnout and digital overload The real reason slowing down is saving more than just your swing—it’s saving marriages Unexpected (and hilarious) secrets behind golf’s wild lingo How partners negotiate passion, patience, and quality time Why supporting each other’s hobbies can be complicated—and sometimes comical If you’ve ever clashed over hobbies, questioned your partner’s obsessions, or wondered how to balance connection with independence, this episode will leave you thinking and grinning. Don’t miss the next real, raw conversation—make sure to subscribe! Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:08 - Golf and Slower Lifestyles 01:10 - Teasing the Episode Topic 01:47 - Burnout and Intentional Living 02:38 - Attitudes Toward Golf 03:40 - Golf’s Pandemic Surge 04:55 - COVID, Stress, and Golf Relief 05:53 - Golf Obsession in Daily Life 06:34 - Golf Language and Humor 07:24 - Relationship Tension Over Golf 08:00 - Playful Debate: Golf vs. Marriage 10:10 - Golf as Sanctuary 11:19 - Golf’s Popularity and Marriage 12:13 - Why Wives Hate Golf 13:14 - Restaurant vs. Golf Time 14:30 - Quality Time and New Beginnings 15:35 - Golf Store "Dates" 17:19 - Separating Golf From Marriage 21:06 - Vacation, Golf, and Compromise 23:23 - Birthday Traditions and Resentment 23:39 - Outro/Closing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  6. Jun 4

    Men, Relationships, and Why Long-Term Love Is Harder Than Ever

    Does everyone crave love, but commitment still feels like a disappearing act? This episode dives into the widening gap between wanting real connection and actually showing up for it—especially for men. Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson get real about why commitment trips people up, how cultural norms and emotional discipline play into relationship struggles, and why valuing something isn’t the same as protecting it. Expect honest, sometimes funny, always eye-opening conversation on why so many say they want love, but struggle to keep it strong. You’ll walk away with real talk that cuts past blame and digs deep into what’s holding grown folks back from real partnership. Key takeaways: The truth behind men’s desire for long-term relationships—and what gets in the way Why emotional discipline matters just as much as physical commitment How independence, gender roles, and modern expectations can sabotage intimacy The difference between saying you value commitment and actually building it Practical insights for breaking out of old patterns and building healthy, lasting love Ready to rethink what commitment means—and what it takes to make it work? Hit follow and join the growth. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro00:11 - Desire vs. Reality in Commitment00:55 - Why Is Commitment So Rare?01:44 - The Gap Between Wanting and Sustaining02:38 - Men’s Value of Long-Term Relationships03:45 - Emotional Skills and Cultural Norms04:47 - The Discipline Problem05:34 - Commitment and Comfort Zones07:19 - Instincts and Relationship Stability08:38 - Desire for Connection vs. Emotional Discipline09:09 - Fear of Commitment and Perfection10:14 - Men’s Rationalization in Relationships11:03 - Valuing but Not Sustaining Relationships12:53 - Cheating, Value, and Partnership14:43 - Managing Intimacy and the Role of Masculinity16:01 - Women’s Independence and Traditional Roles18:09 - Adapting Habits in New Relationships20:23 - Gender Roles and Household Dynamics21:34 - Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  7. May 21

    Are Podcasts Replacing Pastors? Faith, Authority, and Influence

    Are podcasts replacing pastors? In this episode of Grown and Growing, Keion and Shaunie Henderson tackle the culture shift where therapy podcasts, influencers, and viral opinions compete with the traditional role of spiritual leaders. From hilarious shoe debates to deep questions about authority, faith, and why everyone with a mic thinks they’re an expert, nothing is off-limits. Dive in as they explore what gets lost when wisdom is crowd-sourced and why spiritual authority isn’t as “clickable” as a trending podcast. The hosts trade candid stories about church traditions, generational expectations, and the very real challenges (and comedy) that come from living out faith in a streaming world. What you’ll get from this episode:- Why so many turn to podcasts instead of pastors for advice- The surprising dangers of armchair experts and “pop-up” Bible studies- Real talk on church traditions, credibility, and authenticity- How comedy and social media shape our views about faith- Honest insights on keeping faith relevant for new generations If you’re wrestling with who (or what) really deserves your trust and influence, this conversation will push you and make you laugh.Don’t miss an episode—subscribe now to keep growing with us. Don’t miss weekly messages from Pastor Keion Henderson — visit and subscribe to his main channel:https://www.youtube.com/@KeionHendersonTV/videos TIMESTAMPS00:00 - Intro00:31 - House Shoes and First Date Stories03:31 - The Question: Pastors vs. Podcasts04:22 - Changing Spiritual Authority05:54 - Why Podcasters Are Replacing Pastors06:33 - Trend of Questioning Religious Tradition08:14 - Credentials and Bible Study Critique09:00 - The Challenge of Teaching the Bible09:49 - Authority: Earned vs. Inherited10:45 - Unrealistic Expectations of Pastors12:06 - Losing Credibility and Skipping Preparation14:40 - The Pressure on Preachers16:11 - Imperfection, Authenticity, and Cursing17:17 - Drinking, Sin, and Perception18:48 - Therapy, Podcasts, and Church Guidance19:56 - Navigating Offense in Church Comedy22:24 - Respect, Reputation, and Living as a Pastor23:29 - Judgement, Culture, and Performer Choices24:35 - Good and Bad in Every Field25:11 - Ministry Work, Misunderstandings, and Comedy26:01 - Generational Shifts in Church Practice27:54 - Adapting Church Communication29:27 - Newcomers, Faith, and Pure Moments31:05 - Handling Criticism and Misinformation31:50 - Where People Turn in Crisis32:25 - Social Life, Authenticity, and First Dates33:23 - Outro Shaunie and Keion share their blueprint for thriving as a power couple. As sought-after public figures, Keion and Shaunie maneuver sharing the spotlight in marriage and business. The cultural and religious superstars illuminate how they tag team and complement each other in work and life: Keion tends to assume a “visionary” big-picture role while Shaunie typically functions as a detail-oriented “facilitator.” In this episode, the Hendersons unpack why “competition isn’t good for the house” and how to keep “business baggage out of the bedroom.” As leaders at church and at home, they’ve learned to swap visionary-facilitator roles based on what their partner needs.  Tips and advice include how to set boundaries between work and home, why communicating crucial decisions with your partner early on helps them trust the final outcome, and why it’s important not to “split the negative” but share both successes and failures. It takes growth on the inside to not only share the spotlight with your partner but to help each other shine. Above all, Keion reminds us that “You cannot share the spotlight without also sharing the darkness.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  8. May 7

    Can You Ever Truly Erase Painful Memories or Just Hide Them?

    Can you ever truly erase a memory—or are you just covering up the reminders? This episode dives deep with real talk on the nature of memories, tattoos, and the myths of moving on. Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson draw bold connections between physical reminders and the emotional experiences we try to leave behind. On the table: what it means to remove symbols from our lives, why some wounds resurface when you least expect them, and how relationships force us to confront what’s really still there. If you’ve ever wondered about healing, trauma, or why that old pain still lingers, you’ll find yourself in this honest conversation. You’ll walk away with: The hard truth about memory “erasure” vs. learning to live with the past Why covering a tattoo (or a painful chapter) doesn’t rewrite your story How emotional triggers can remain hidden until life (or love) brings them up Practical strategies to recognize, cope with, and even learn from your own trauma The importance of doing the self-work before jumping into new relationships Don’t just listen—let this episode challenge you to grow while you’re grown. If these insights moved you, hit subscribe so you never miss a breakthrough. Check out our tour!https://www.notyourtypical.org/ Don’t miss weekly messages from Pastor Keion Henderson — visit and subscribe to his main channel:https://www.youtube.com/@KeionHendersonTV/videos TIMESTAMPS 00:10 - Can You Erase a Memory?01:12 - Tattoos vs. Memories02:14 - Tattoo Removal and Moving On03:29 - Why Memories Linger04:40 - Covering Up, Not Erasing06:01 - Counting Our Tattoos07:59 - What Covered Tattoos Reveal08:37 - Lessons From Past Mistakes09:19 - Church Reactions to Tattoos10:08 - Would You Remove a Tattoo?11:06 - Symbolism vs. Emotional Closure12:27 - Why Big Memories Stick13:48 - How Memory Works16:17 - Presence and True Remembering17:31 - Healing: Remove or Live With?18:26 - How to Handle Trauma19:19 - Recognizing Each Other’s Scars20:45 - Self-Work Before Relationships23:31 - Relationship Triggers and Growth24:47 - Learning in Community25:08 - Can We Truly Erase Memories? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Grown & Growing by Keion and Shaunie Henderson features media mogul Shaunie and husband Keion Henderson. The two hold no punches, deliver powerful relationship insights, actionable real-life advice, and revealing moments in their development as a power couple in the spiritual and culture spaces.

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