The Expansive Therapist

Caitlan Siegenthaler

Therapists have been told to be a blank slate, that they AREN”T doing it for the money (that’s greedy…), that insurance reimbursement should be enough to live on (it’s NOT) and that coloring outside the lines is unethical —or some other lie designed to keep us in line. We’re broke, we’re bored and we’re burnt out. What if we colored outside the lines of a 50 minute sessions with reimbursable “interventions” for healing? I imagine a world where therapists are NOURISHED- creatively, financially, spiritually, SOULFULLY. N O U R I S H ED. Where the expansive way to be is THE WAY to work and live.  What if, we expanded the definition of healing? This podcast is a space to be E X P A N S I V E Where curiosity is our guide and judgement doesn’t come along for the ride Where we take inspiration from each other, from guests, from the world around us Where other expanders satellite into our world Where therapists expand themselves and their businesses 

  1. 2d ago

    The Witch Wound, Money, & Reclaiming Your Power (Part 2) with Elizabeth Scott

    Welcome to Part 2! If you didn't listen to Part 1, go back and do that...  What if your discomfort with charging for your work isn't actually about money? What if the part of you that questions your intuition, feels uncomfortable being visible, or needs just one more certification before you can trust yourself is carrying something much older than you realize? And what if some of those fears aren't even yours? In part two of our conversation on the witch wound, Elizabeth Scott and I are going DEEP into the ways historical persecution of women healers may still be showing up in our lives and businesses as therapists. We're talking about money (because OF COURSE we are), the ways we've been conditioned to value intellectual knowledge over intuitive wisdom, and why receiving compensation for our healing work can feel so complicated. And listen, we're not suggesting you throw evidence-based practice out the window and start prescribing moon water. But we are asking what happens when we become so focused on credentials, protocols, and doing therapy the "right" way that we lose touch with one of our most powerful tools: ourselves. We also get into the astrology of this moment, including Venus retrograde and its connection to money, worth, and the feminine. And then I take us into the massive Human Design shift happening in 2027, when we collectively move from the Cross of Planning into the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Which, if you ask me, has some pretty fascinating implications for how we might live, work, and practice therapy moving forward. And because we don't want to leave you with a whole bunch of things to unpack and absolutely no idea what to DO with them, we're sharing some of our favorite practices for exploring and healing the witch wound. Inside this episode, we're exploring: Why charging for intuitive, relational, and healing work can feel more vulnerable than charging for something backed by a certificationThe ancestral, cultural, and professional legacy burdens that might be influencing your relationship with moneyHow the devaluation of caregiving shows up in the therapy professionWhat Venus retrograde is inviting us to revisit around worth, power, and the feminineThe 2027 Human Design shift and what it could mean for therapists who are ready to do things differentlyWhy trusting your own therapeutic expression matters more than everOur personal energy-clearing rituals between client sessions (including some things we definitely didn't learn in grad school)How to honor your natural cycles rather than forcing yourself into constant productivityUsing IFS and legacy unburdening to explore fears around visibility, money, and taking up spaceHere's something I really want you to consider: How much of what you're carrying around money, visibility, and trusting yourself actually belongs to you? And how much of it might be something you inherited, absorbed, or learned along the way? You don't need to figure it all out today. But perhaps there's an opportunity to start getting curious. Resources mentioned Healing the Witch WoundThe First Witch of BostonSeason of the Witch by Ellen VoraWintering by Katherine MayWe'd love to hear what resonates, what parts are showing up for you, and whether you try any of the rituals we share. Connect with Elizabeth Scott: website: https://www.heartsighthealing.com/ substack: https://substack.com/@celizabethscott Connect with Caitlan Siegenthaler: website: www.caitlansiegenthaler.com  instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caitlansiegenthaler/ Come tell us in the comments or over on Substack. Because maybe the next evolution of therapy isn't about learning another modality. Maybe it's about remembering how to trust the healer you already are. Loved the show? Send us fan mail Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify.  That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

  2. Oct 22

    The Witch Wound: What We're Still Carrying as Therapists (Part 1) with Elizabeth Scott

    Season 1 Episode 4: The Witch Wound & Therapists  *cue the music* must be the season of the witch... Q: What do the European witch trials, your fear of being visible online, and your discomfort with charging for your gifts have in common? A: WAY more than you think In this episode of The Expansive Therapist, I'm joined by therapist, healer, astrologer, and all-around magical human Elizabeth Scott for the first part of a juicy conversation about the witch wound and how its legacy may still be shaping the way we show up as therapists, healers, and business owners. We're going way back (like, 500 years back) to explore the history of the witch hunts, the persecution of women and healers, and the cultural and generational burdens that may still be living in our systems today. And we're connecting some pretty fascinating dots along the way. In this episode, we explore: The history of the European witch trials and how women, healers, and their communities were impacted.What the witch wound actually is and why it matters for modern-day therapists.How cultural and legacy burdens can show up as perfectionism, self-doubt, fear of visibility, and discomfort with making money.The tension between evidence-based practices and trusting our intuition, embodiment, and other ways of knowing.Why doing things differently in the therapy world can feel so threatening (and why therapists sometimes turn on each other).How the witch wound may influence our relationships with other women, collaboration, and community.Why reclaiming our gifts doesn't have to mean forcing ourselves into visibility before our systems feel ready.The astrological significance of Venus retrograde in Scorpio and its connection to reclaiming feminine power.This conversation isn't about throwing out everything we've learned as therapists. It's about getting curious about what we've been taught to exile, suppress, or distrust in ourselves.....and what might become possible when we begin to reclaim it. And perhaps most importantly, you don't have to force your way through any of it. You get to move at the pace of your own system. This is part one of a two-part conversation. In part two, we'll dive deeper into the witch wound and money, ancestral healing, rituals for reclamation, and the fascinating connection to the 2027 Human Design shift. If you've ever felt the tug for MORE in your work but also felt parts that have said, that's not safe, this episode is for you.  Connect with Elizabeth Scott: website: https://www.heartsighthealing.com/ substack: https://substack.com/@celizabethscott Connect with Caitlan Siegenthaler: website: www.caitlansiegenthaler.com  instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caitlansiegenthaler/ Loved the show? Send us fan mail Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify.  That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

  3. Sep 30

    What I would do if I was starting my therapy business from scratch in 2026 (as a Projector in Human Design)

    Season 1 Episode 2: What I would do if I was starting my therapy business from scratch in 2026 (as a Projector in Human Design) There are 7 things I would do FOR SURE if I was starting all the way over with my business.  Here they are: Create my business around my capacity and not what i saw everyone else doing - BIGGEST piece of importance as a projectorFigure out my legit income needs, goals & desires and not— “what is someone willing to pay me?” or what am I worth?Start a newsletter/ email list. You need a place to have conversations with people that have opted in to your work, that isn’t going to disappear tomorrow.Be more clear about who I wanted to help but also steer away from the formulaic I help _ do _ so they can ___Work with my people pleasing part wayyyyy soonerImmediately start supervision ( I did start like 6 months in but I would’ve started ASAP)Work with a biz coach who gets the ethical components therapists have to deal with outside of the biz world What would you add?  Links mentioned: Email Service Provider Flodesk: Get 25% off your first year click here.Business Parts Mapping Exercise click here---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also, as a thank you for interacting with this episode I'm giving away an Expansive Human Design Reading to one lucky listener.  To enter: Write a review of this podcast on Apple podcasts OR leave a comment on this episode on Spotify between September 30th and October 7th at 11:59 pm ESTSend an email with a  screenshot of your comment or review to: hello@caitlansiegenthaler.com The winner will be notified via email! Loved the show? Send us fan mail Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify.  That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    What I would do if I was starting my therapy business from scratch in 2026 (as a Projector in Human Design)
  4. Sep 30

    Welcome to The Expansive Therapist Podcast

    THE NEW PODCAST IS HERE! SAY HELLO TO THE EXPANSIVE THERAPIST 🦋 Season 1 Episode 1: Goodbye Return, Hello Expansive Therapist (and why the change?)  If you've been here a while you know that I follow wild 2 am whispers that make no sense at the time but later on turn out to be some of the most aligned changes in my life.  The call to change the direction, intention and name of the podcast came once again out of the blue in the middle of the night for *seemingly* no reason at all.  In this episode I share more about the change, the reasons behind selecting The Expansive Therapist as the name, my going away letter to Return and so much more.  I also share my manifesto for The Expansive Therapist, a calling for us to take up space as therapists and to expand into wild unknowns.  Also, as a thank you for interacting with this episode I'm giving away an Expansive Human Design Reading to one lucky listener.  To enter: Write a review of this podcast on Apple podcasts OR leave a comment on this episode on Spotify between September 30th and October 7th at 11:59 pm ESTSend an email with a  screenshot of your comment or review to: hello@caitlansiegenthaler.com The winner will be notified via email!  Loved the show? Send us fan mail Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify.  That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    Welcome to The Expansive Therapist Podcast
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Therapists have been told to be a blank slate, that they AREN”T doing it for the money (that’s greedy…), that insurance reimbursement should be enough to live on (it’s NOT) and that coloring outside the lines is unethical —or some other lie designed to keep us in line. We’re broke, we’re bored and we’re burnt out. What if we colored outside the lines of a 50 minute sessions with reimbursable “interventions” for healing? I imagine a world where therapists are NOURISHED- creatively, financially, spiritually, SOULFULLY. N O U R I S H ED. Where the expansive way to be is THE WAY to work and live.  What if, we expanded the definition of healing? This podcast is a space to be E X P A N S I V E Where curiosity is our guide and judgement doesn’t come along for the ride Where we take inspiration from each other, from guests, from the world around us Where other expanders satellite into our world Where therapists expand themselves and their businesses 

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