The Sonical.ly Podcast

Elmo Chong

A podcast where music creators educate music creators.

  1. May 18

    Natalie Layne on Turning Brokenness Into “All Joy”

    In this episode of the Sonical.ly Podcast, Natalie Layne joins us to talk about songwriting, faith, creativity, and her new album All Joy. Interview by Elmo Chong We dive into: How Natalie developed her sound blending pop, worship, jazz & soul The emotional story behind All Joy Building an audience through TikTok and social media Why joy and vulnerability can coexist Her songwriting and production process Creativity, burnout, faith, and staying groundedAdvice for aspiring music creators Natalie also opens up about the deeper meaning behind her music and how she’s learned to create from a place of honesty instead of pressure.If you're a songwriter, artist, producer, or creative trying to stay inspired, this episode is packed with wisdom. 🎧 Listen now and subscribe for more conversations where music creators educate music creators. 0:00 Natalie Layne on the Bible Verse She “Hated” at First0:14 Introducing Natalie Layne & the Story Behind All Joy 1:02 Growing Up in a Family of Musicians & Worship Leaders2:46 From Classical Piano to Jazz Improvisation4:59 Natalie’s First “Aha” Moment Creating Music5:31 Writing Her First Songs Using Scripture7:07 Why Natalie Chose Faith-Based Music Over Mainstream Themes9:23 The Hardest Parts of Building a Music Career in Nashville12:39 Leaning on Faith Through Doubt, Burnout & Pressure13:56 How TikTok Changed Natalie Layne’s Career15:06 Letting Fans Help Write Her Songs Online17:55 The Meaning Behind the Album All Joy19:18 “Joy Is Not a Fruit of Ourselves”21:00 The Bible Verse That Inspired the Title Track All Joy21:50 “Count It Joy” — The Scripture Natalie Struggled With Most23:09 Fans Telling Natalie Her Music Helped Them Find Joy Again24:21 The Emotional Story Behind “Fragile”26:30 The Small Moment That Inspired “Amen”28:57 Natalie Layne Opens Up About Being a “Church Kid”30:03 Why Church Kids Have Powerful Testimonies Too32:25 The Youth Conference That Changed Natalie’s Life Forever35:25 Natalie Layne’s Dream for the Impact of Her Music37:24 Natalie’s Honest Thoughts on AI Music & Fake AI Songs38:28 Hearing AI Songs Made With Her Voice39:32 “Human-Made Music” vs AI-Generated Music41:20 Advice for Aspiring Artists & Songwriters43:00 What’s Next for Natalie Layne? #NatalieLayne #christianmusic #songwriter #musicpodcast #musiccreators #songwriting #nashvillemusic #indieartist #popmusic #worshipmusic

    44 min
  2. Feb 27

    Riley Clemmons: Honest Confessions from a Christian Pop Voice

    Interview by Elmo ChongOn this episode of the Sonical.ly Podcast, Riley Clemmons opens up about doubt, grief, and the practice of making honest music. We discuss the origin of Broken Prayers, the empathy behind Jesus Cries, the process of building Church Pew in two months with Jeff Pardo & Blessing Offor, and the essential artist advice Riley lives by: “your art is part of you — not all of you.” If you’re a music creator or someone wrestling with faith and creativity, this conversation is for you.0:00 – 1:04 — Opening + TeaserQuick emotional hook: Riley’s moment of questioning faith → show teaser soundbite to hook listeners.1:04 – 3:02 — Welcome & Musical UpbringingIntro, where Riley describes growing up in a music-filled home in Nashville and early influences.3:02 – 5:22 — Finding the ProcessHow she discovered songwriting, combining writing + music, “sponging” in studios, long learning curve.5:22 – 9:01 — Biggest Challenges: Comparison & PressureTalking about signing young, the pressure to repeat success, social media comparison, and staying present.9:01 – 11:01 — Getting Unstuck: Practical TipsWhat she does when blocked — scales, journaling, community, “fill your tank” advice.11:23 – 14:08 — “Broken Prayers” — Origin & VulnerabilityStory behind the breakthrough single, wrestling with faith at 18, invitation to the broken.14:15 – 16:33 — Industry Tradeoffs & Staying TrueThe tension: Christian music as an industry vs. ministry voice; learning to choose honesty over chasing trends.16:59 – 19:13 — Songwriting Growth & ConfidenceHow her process matured (titles, confidence to say yes/no in the room).19:20 – 22:20 — “Jesus Cries” — Empathy of JesusInspiration for the song, John 11:35, grief, and the image of a weeping Savior.22:26 – 25:07 — “Let Them Run Like a River” — Grief & SurrenderOn surrender, grieving, questioning faith, and how emotional release fuels art.26:00 – 27:44 — Fan Impact StoriesPowerful listener responses (e.g., school-shooting story) and why those moments matter.27:50 – 31:07 — “Church Pew” — Concept & Radical WelcomeWhy telling faith through a pew is powerful; the memoir-like, everyday holiness message.31:16 – 35:54 — “Faith Runs Deep” — Sonic Choices & ProductionHow title + collaborators (Jeff Pardo, Blessing Offor) shaped its Motown/gospel feel and production decisions.36:00 – 37:14 — Advice for Aspiring SongwritersCore advice: “Your art is a part of you, not all of you.” Practical, identity-centered guidance.37:22 – 38:17 — What’s Next / Tour & New ProjectRiley teases an upcoming thematic project and tour details.38:28 – 38:42 — Closing / OutroThanks, final encouragement, CTA.

    39 min
  3. Feb 27

    Em Beihold - Inside Tales of a Failed Shapeshifter

    Interview by Elmo ChongEm Beihold joins the Sonical.ly Podcast to break down the mindset and craft behind Tales of a Failed Shapeshifter — and why honest music connects deeper than perfect music.This episode is a masterclass in relatable songwriting, emotional clarity, and creative psychology.🧠 What you’ll learn• How to turn overthinking into songwriting ideas• Why humor makes emotional songs hit harder• The difference between clever lyrics vs. honest lyrics• How “Hot Goblin” and vulnerable songs build fan connection• Why artists shouldn’t tie their self-worth to their art• How to write songs people feel seen by• Why imperfection creates better music than polish• The mental framework behind her creative process• How albums like Tales of a Failed Shapeshifter are conceptually built• The real reason relatable artists build stronger communitiesWhether you’re a songwriter, producer, or music fan — this conversation shows how authenticity outperforms perfection.0:00 — Intro + why Em matters right now1:30 — Growing up with music & first song at 73:30 — TikTok breakout & going viral5:45 — The aftermath: fame, writer’s block, burnout8:00 — Outpatient therapy & healing practices11:30 — Writing “Numb Little Bug” (process + versions)21:30 — “Brutus” lyric deep-dive (comparison & jealousy)23:20 — “Hot Goblin” (femininity, duality, fairy-tale language)26:50 — “Scared of the Dark” — bringing a 13-yr-old chorus back32:00 — Sonic choices, collaborators, piano through-line33:00 — Advice for songwriters + persistence40:45 — Album release + tour plugs

    42 min
  4. Feb 5

    JP Cooper - The Heart & Soul Behind 'Just a Few Folk' (Album) Explained

    Singer-songwriter JP Cooper joins the Sonical.ly Podcast for a raw, vulnerable conversation about the heart behind his new album Just a Few Folk. In this episode, JP opens up about the meaning behind his emotional new single “Sad Song” ft. Gabrielle, the struggles that inspired it, and how grief, fatherhood, and faith have shaped his creative process.We talk about:The story behind Sad Song and collaborating with Gabrielle 🎤How he writes his most vulnerable lyrics and melodies ✍️Processing loss, doubt, and reconnection to self 💔What he wants listeners to take away from Just a Few Folk 🌱Why honest music still matters in a streaming world 🌍Whether you’re a music creator or a fan of authentic storytelling, this episode is a masterclass in staying true to your voice.Interview by Elmo Chong0:00 - Advice for Aspiring Songwriters0:24 - Welcome to the Sonical.ly Podcast0:31 - Introducing JP Cooper1:01 - New Album "Just a Few Folk" Overview2:05 - Growing Up Without Music at Home3:07 - Creativity, Loss, and Faith in Childhood4:05 - Music Discovery in Manchester5:04 - Guitar Culture and Early Influences5:28 - Discovery of Soul & Gospel Music6:03 - First Time Hearing Brandy & Monica6:54 - Joining a Gospel Choir in Manchester7:46 - Wayne Ellington’s Mentorship8:54 - Learning to Express Through Voice, Not Power10:27 - Biggest Challenges in JP’s Career11:02 - Internal Struggles and Artistic Identity12:13 - The Jonas Blue Collaboration Dilemma13:18 - Balancing Family, Work, and Music14:14 - Behind the Scenes of "Perfect Strangers"16:04 - The Label's Perspective on Crossover Success17:49 - Strategic Shifts in Album Production19:04 - Reclaiming "September Song"20:00 - Redefining What Success Means21:00 - Artist Expectations & Impostor Syndrome22:06 - Chronic People Pleasing Origins23:31 - Gaining Creative Confidence Over Time24:46 - Feelings Ahead of the Album Release25:45 - Personal Evolution Through the Album Process27:04 - Connecting with a Niche, Not the Masses28:12 - "Summer of Love" and Hotel Room Origins29:10 - The Simplicity of Emotional Chords30:35 - Project Ideas Sparked by One Song31:04 - Learning Music Theory and Instrumentation32:07 - Singing Comes Naturally, Instruments Take Work32:57 - Exploring New Colors for Future Projects33:07 - "Diamonds and Gold" — Love Letter to His Wife34:32 - First Time Seeing His Wife35:24 - Her Reaction to Hearing the Song35:33 - The Meaning Behind "Sad Song"36:47 - Turning Sadness into Armor37:48 - "Waiting on a Blue Sky" — Manchester Rain38:50 - Why That Song Opens the Album40:00 - Analog Tape and the Human Touch41:02 - Humanity vs. AI in Music Creation42:04 - Making the Listener Feel In the Room43:04 - Mistakes and Divine Creative Moments44:03 - Producing a Sample-Worthy Album45:06 - The Joy of Making Noise and Texture46:01 - Final Reflections Before the Rapid Fire46:09 - Last Question: Advice to Emerging Artists47:35 - OFF THE TOPLINE: Beat Challenge Begins48:22 - JP Chooses a Beat & Freestyles a Topline50:06 - JP Explains His Creative Process in Real Time52:52 - Capturing Concept & Nostalgia in Lyrics54:01 - Writing is Catching Breadcrumbs of Emotion55:03 - Editing, Crafting, and Digging Into a Spark56:38 - Show Don't Tell: Making Lyrics Cinematic58:50 - Freestyling vs. Editing: JP's Process at Home1:00:02 - Pulling Inspiration from Books, Films, and Art1:01:45 - Creative Dates: Surrounding Yourself with Inspiration1:02:43 - What’s Next for JP Cooper1:03:34 - New Album "Just a Few Folk" Out Feb 13

    1h 4m

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