Send us Fan Mail EP 195: The Gentle Art of Leadership, Why Gentle Leaders Create the Greatest Impact What if the strongest leaders are not the loudest people in the room? In this episode of The Security Circle, Yoyo welcomes globally recognised executive coach and two-time author Brian Donovan for a thoughtful conversation about leadership, influence and the human qualities that enable people to perform at their best. Brian is the author of Leadership Is Changing the Game and The Gentle Art of Leadership, two books that challenge outdated leadership models and offer a more human-centred approach to achieving results. Together, Brian and Yoyo explore the difficult transition from tactical expert to strategic leader—particularly within security, cyber and technology, where technical ability can lead to promotion without preparing someone to inspire, influence or develop others. They discuss why gentle leadership should never be confused with weakness, how empathy and accountability can coexist, and why treating people with dignity consistently produces stronger results. Brian also explains how leaders can identify and reinvent their natural strengths, establish healthier boundaries, delegate effectively and move beyond the belief that they must carry every burden themselves. The conversation also examines toxic workplace cultures, the importance of recognising when an environment can no longer be changed, and the personal agency required to take control of your future. Brian asks listeners to consider one deceptively powerful question: What do you want to be known for? From integrity and emotional intelligence to reputation, resilience and the courage to say no, this episode invites leaders to look honestly at the impact they have on the people around them. As Brian reminds us: “Gentle is not soft. Gentle is knowing how to respect people, treat them with dignity and get the best out of them.” “The best leaders know how to get people to step up—and how to foster other great leaders.” “You don’t have to be loud, brash, arrogant or narcissistic to be a leader. That image of leadership is a myth.” This is an insightful and reassuring conversation for anyone who wants to lead with greater clarity, humanity and impact—and proof that leadership does not need a raised voice to leave a powerful impression. BIO Brian Donovan is an executive coach, speaker and author, based in Melbourne and working globally. He helps technical experts make the transition to leadership. It's the step security and technology organisations expect of the people they promote on technical credibility and rarely train them for. That transition is the subject of his first book; Leadership Is Changing the Game: The Transition from Technical Expert to Leader. It draws on both sides of his career: senior executive roles at Telstra, Australia's largest telco, and CEO of the IT Skills Hub, a not-for-profit set up to grow the supply of IT professionals. Forty years in the sector means he coaches from inside the problem rather than beside it. Brian is a self-confessed gentleman. That belief sits at the heart of The Gentle Art of Leadership, a book he co-authored with Dean Phelan to challenge the outdated notion that leaders have to be loud, brash, or domineering. The book brings together original research and interviews with more than fifty leaders worldwide. Its argument is simple: leaders who treat people with dignity and respect get the better result. The skills and practices that make that possible are learnable. Brian is also an accredited delivery partner for Influential U, facilitating programs in Transactional Intelligence®, a framework for building the influence a leader needs to reduce friction and get results. More on the framework in the book, HIGH TQ. Website: www.donovanleadership.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfdonovan1/ X: https://x.com/Briandonovan1 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DonovanLeadership/ Medium: https://medium.com/@brian-18714 Substack: https://substack.com/@briandonovan3 Email: brian@donovanleadership.com Phone: +61 418 552 723 Security Circle ⭕️ is an IFPOD production for IFPO the International Foundation of Protection Officers