The Human Element with Joe Massey

Joe Massey

The Human Element is an investigation into the patterns of our past and the potential of our future. From the ruins of Ancient Egypt to the cutting edge of CRISPR and the minds of elite performers—we interview world-class experts to uncover the "Golden Threads" that connect us all. 

  1. 6d ago

    #27 - Dr Julia Troche: Time Capsule to Ancient Egypt

    Send us Fan Mail The ancient Egyptians believed you die twice. The first death is when your body goes into the grave. The second is the last time anyone says your name. In this episode, I sit down with Egyptologist Professor Julia Troche to time-travel 3,000 years back to the foot of an Egyptian temple, and to ask what a civilization obsessed with being remembered can teach us about how we live now. We cover: - What you'd see, hear and smell as an ordinary ancient Egyptian - Why we're closer in time to Cleopatra than she was to the pyramid builders - The real Imhotep: architect, sage, and eventually a god of medicine - How (and how rarely) humans became gods in ancient Egypt - The God's Wife of Amun, one of the most powerful roles for women in Egypt - Who actually built the pyramids, and the trash pit that revealed how workers lived - Pilgrim grooves: why people carved away pieces of temple walls - And yes, did aliens build the pyramids? THE GOLDEN THREAD You live on through being useful to others and through the words and memories you leave behind. Be useful while you're alive, and your name outlasts your body. TIMESTAMPS 01:47 Time capsule to ancient Egypt 16:20 Closer to Cleopatra than the pyramids 26:16 "You die twice" 30:19 Who was Imhotep? 59:52 The God's Wife of Amun 01:09:14 How Egyptian society really worked 01:14:34 Pilgrim grooves 01:29:40 Did aliens build the pyramids? ABOUT OUR GUEST Professor Julia Troche is a full professor of history at Missouri State University, author of "Death, Power, and Apotheosis in Ancient Egypt" (Cornell University Press), and co-founder of the Missouri chapter of the American Research Center in Egypt (ARCE). Find Julia: Instagram (Professor Julia Troche), LinkedIn, and arcemissouri.org The Human Element explores ancient wisdom and historical figures, examined philosophically, for modern life. Follow the show and leave a rating to help more people find it. Instagram: @the_humanelementpodcast YouTube: @Thehumanelementwithjoe

  2. Sep 3

    #25 - Dr Erica Canela: The Radical Origins of the Quakers: A 17th Century Revolution

    Send us Fan Mail England, the 1650s. A country torn apart by civil war, and into that chaos steps a movement that shouldn't have survived its first decade, let alone three centuries.  Historian Dr. Erica Canela joins me to unpack the real story of early Quakerism: not the quiet, sober image most people know, but a radical, apocalyptic, confrontational movement. We trace George Fox's spiritual awakening, Margaret Fell's role as the organizing force behind the movement, and the astonishing endurance of figures like Humphrey Smith, who held to his faith through imprisonment.  This is a Golden Thread episode about conviction, what it costs to believe something the world isn't ready for.  Guest: Dr. Erica Canela, author of Zealous: A Darker Side of the Early Quakers  Topics covered:  What "zealous" really meant to early Quakers1650s England and the apocalyptic mindset behind Quaker growthGeorge Fox's spiritual journey and Margaret Fell's organizing roleConfrontational tactics and pamphlet wars with Richard BaxterHumphrey Smith's imprisonment and unwavering faithThe shift from radicalism to the Peace Testimony and pacifism Chapters:  00:00 Introduction and guest introduction  03:46 What does 'zealous' mean in the context of early Quakers?  05:37 Why study the Quakers? Their significance in history  07:03 The environment of chaos in 1650s England  09:25 The urgency and apocalyptic mindset of early Quakers  12:01 The growth and radicalization of Quaker beliefs  16:24 The social and political context of the English Civil War  24:47 The survival and resilience of early Quakers  43:11 George Fox's background and spiritual awakening  54:43 The role of Margaret Fell in Quaker history   Resources: 📖 Zealous: A Darker Side of the Early Quakers by Erica Canela — https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Zealous+Erica+Canela 🔗 The Civil Wars of the Three Kingdoms (Wikipedia) — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War Connect with Erica Canela: Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/ericonella

  3. Aug 26

    #25: Darcy ThePastTimes - How Chaos and Charisma Built Adolf Hitler

    Send us Fan Mail   How did an aspiring artist from Austria transform into the architect of history’s most brutal regime? In this episode, I sit down with guest Darcy Lee of ThePastTimes to break down the psychological, social, and political mechanics behind the rise of Adolf Hitler. Together, they trace Hitler’s journey from his middle-class childhood and military service in World War I to the political chaos of Weimar Germany. They explore how public anxiety, scapegoating, and Joseph Goebbels’ propaganda machine weaponized charisma to dismantle democracy from within—offering crucial lessons on ego, public awareness, and critical thinking for the modern world. In This Episode, We Cover: Early Roots & Turning Points: Hitler’s upbringing, artistic rejections, and how WWI shaped his radical nationalist views.The Mechanics of Propaganda: How speeches, symbols, media manipulation, and Goebbels crafted a religious cult of personality.Psychology of Tyranny: Scapegoating, follower psychology, personal dynamics, and the erosion of democratic norms.Historical Lessons: The vital role of critical thinking and vigilance in safeguarding modern democracy.Timestamps & Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction to Adolf Hitler's Early Life02:54 – Understanding Family Dynamics06:03 – Education & Artistic Aspirations09:05 – Rejection, Homelessness, & WWI Turning Point15:04 – Military Experience & Nationalism32:22 – Post-WWI Political & Economic Chaos39:30 – Political Awakening & Early Strategy44:04 – The Orator: Rise to Power50:17 – Media Manipulation & Goebbels' Propaganda01:04:11 – The Erosion of Democracy01:13:29 – Cult of Hitler & Religious Zealotry01:21:44 – Modern Relevance & Holocaust Denial01:30:54 – Key Lessons from HistoryResources Mentioned: Treaty of Versailles BackgroundThe Weimar Republic HistoryHeinrich Hoffmann PhotographyConnect with Darcy: Instagram: instagram.com/thepastimes

  4. Aug 12

    #23 - Dr. Nicholas Morton: Why NO ONE Could Stop Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire

    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, I sit down with renowned military historian and author Dr. Nicholas Morton to dissect the rise, military machine, and legacy of Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire. From Temujin’s horrific early life and torture to the psychological warfare, decimal military structure, and mobile wagon cities that swept across Eurasia, Dr. Morton breaks down how a nomadic civilization reshaped global history. We also explore religious tolerance, siege technology transfer, and the pivotal battle that finally halted their expansion. --- ### ⏱️ CHAPTERS * **00:00** – Introduction & Welcome * **00:38** – The Fear of Nomadic Invasions in Eurasian History * **01:55** – Templars, Samurai, & Mamluks vs. The Mongol Machine * **03:27** – Why Nomadic Life Produced Superior Warriors * **04:59** – Who Was Temujin? The Origin Story of Genghis Khan * **06:34** – From Traumatized Captive to Chinggis Khan * **07:04** – How Environment and Context Shape Great Leaders * **09:59** – How Genghis Khan Centralized Power Among Rivals * **11:35** – "Submit or Die": Mongol Diplomatic Policy & Tengri * **13:51** – Brutal Methods of Assimilation & Control * **15:15** – The Decimal Military System & Forced Loyalty * **16:54** – Adopting Foreign Tech: Siege Warfare & Gunpowder * **20:00** – Meritocracy & Religious Tolerance Under Mongol Rule * **22:56** – Research Institutes, Alchemy, & Trigonometry (Maragheh) * **24:42** – Dispelling the "Barbarian Horde" Myth: Keshek & Ulu * **27:55** – The Fast Horse Courier System (Yam Logistics) * **32:50** – Rolling Wagon Cities & Nomadic Imperial Culture * **38:34** – Why Nomadic Societies Survive Post-Apocalyptic Chaos * **42:18** – The Geopolitical Map Before the Invasion * **46:26** – The Execution of Traders & The Fall of Otrar * **51:03** – The Mamluks, Ain Jalut, & Stopping the Mongol Conquest * **55:16** – Where to Find Dr. Nicholas Morton & His Books --- ### 📚 BOOKS MENTIONED * *The Mongol Storm: Making and Breaking Empires in the Medieval Near East* by Nicholas Morton * *The Crusader Storm* by Nicholas Morton --- ### 🔗 CONNECT WITH DR. NICHOLAS MORTON * **YouTube:** @medievalNearEast * **Socials:** Search "Nicholas Morton" on X/Twitter, Instagram, Threads, BlueSky, and LinkedIn

  5. Jul 30

    #22 - Mihaela Threads of Time: The Dark True Story of Vlad Dracula (Beyond the Legend)

    Send us Fan Mail Many people are introduced to Vlad Dracula through Bram Stoker's novel 'Dracula'.  But who was the real Dracula behind the myth we know so well?  Beyond gothic fiction and vampire folklore lies the complex 15th-century history of Vlad III, commonly known as Vlad Dracula or Vlad the Impaler. In this episode, I speak with Romanian history expert Mihaela of Threadsoftime to unpack the life and political reality of Wallachia’s most famous ruler. Together, we discuss Vlad’s childhood as a political hostage in the Ottoman court alongside his brother Radu, his rise to power as Voivod, the severe methods he used to consolidate control against rival nobility, and how early printing press pamphlets helped shape his historical legacy. Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro and common misconceptions about Dracula01:32 – Name origins: Vlad Tepes, Dracul, and the Order of the Dragon03:00 – Understanding the role of a Voivod04:11 – Wallachia’s geopolitical position between Hungary and the Ottomans09:32 – Life as noble hostages in the Ottoman court13:24 – Comparing the brothers: Vlad vs. Radu the Handsome17:15 – Vlad’s initial return to power in his late teens26:27 – The Battle of the Vlads and taking the throne28:41 – The Easter Feast, impalement, and political deterrence34:00 – Rebuilding Poenari Fortress and handling the boyar class37:06 – The "Bonfire of the Beggars" and the role of Saxon propagandaLinks & Resources: Subscribe for future historical deep dives and podcast episodes.Comments and constructive discussions are always welcome below.

  6. Jul 23

    #21 - Ghani Souleymane: 100 Triathlons each 100km in 100 days. They said it was Impossible

    Send us Fan Mail   Souleymane Ghani completed 100, 100 kilometer-long triathlons in 100 days. Before that, 30 full Ironman distances in 30 consecutive days. In the desert heat of Dubai, swimming alone in open water at 3am, cycling 180km on legs that had already crashed twice that day.  This conversation isn't really about triathlons.  Ghani opens up about the moment his body shut down mid-race — his support team thought he'd died — and what it taught him about the difference between distraction and presence. He explains why he actively invites pain instead of avoiding it, why elite athletes "fail mechanically before they fail physiologically," and why the community cheering you on can be both your greatest fuel and your biggest threat to staying grounded.  We get into the "we behind the I" — the small, trusted circle that makes the impossible survivable — and how Ghani rebuilt his entire "why" around raising money for children's charities instead of chasing personal glory, and what that shift did for his relationship with pressure, ego, and burnout.  If you've ever been told to "just distract yourself" from pain — physical or emotional — this episode makes the case for the opposite.  Timestamps 00:00 – Intro 00:21 – 100km triathlons, 100 days — how is this even possible 01:50 – "The we behind the I" — the people who make it possible 05:14 – Meet the team: physio, nutritionist, the ones behind the scenes 08:25 – The night his team thought he had died 12:34 – Daily routine: eat, rest, recover, repeat 14:42 – Burning 7,000 calories a day 18:31 – The hierarchy of needs collapses — Ross Edgley and the will to feel warm 24:47 – Staying present when the goal feels impossibly far away 28:15 – Community support: your greatest fuel or your biggest threat 31:39 – Why he asks pain to come early 36:51 – Music, distraction, and when to take the headphones out 40:47 – A countercultural message in a world built to distract you 45:22 – What addiction recovery and endurance racing have in common 46:39 – Finding a deeper "why" 49:17 – Doing it for the kids 50:25 – Fame, purpose, and why so many athletes fall into depression 55:37 – The parallel neither of them expected 56:34 – Handling the pressure of other people's expectations 59:53 – Ego, competition, and coaching people to beat you 1:02:11 – Where to find Ghani  Follow the show:  Instagram: @the_humanelementpodcast  YouTube: @Thehumanelementwithjoe

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The Human Element is an investigation into the patterns of our past and the potential of our future. From the ruins of Ancient Egypt to the cutting edge of CRISPR and the minds of elite performers—we interview world-class experts to uncover the "Golden Threads" that connect us all.