What Teachers Have to Say

Jacob Carr and Nathan Collins

What Teachers Have to Say brings together innovative educators to talk about what it means to be a teacher in the modern classroom. Each episode explores the emotional complexity of teaching as hosts Jake & Nathan talk through the trials and triumphs of teaching. We talk access and equity, artificial intelligence, student behavior, teacher burnout, mentorship models & more. Find practical teaching advice and resources presented in an approachable and real way, alongside valuable insights and inspiration in these thought-provoking conversations, for educators at all levels.

  1. MAR 4

    Scaffolds Were Always Meant to Come Down

    Send a text Jake and Nathan just got back from their third Stanford AI + Education Summit — The AI Inflection Point: What, How, and Why We Learn — and a week later, they still can't stop talking about it. In this episode they dig into the tension at the heart of AI in schools right now: how do you protect the human skill development that education exists to build, while letting AI do the things it's actually good at? They get into the AI Assessment Scale, why cheating is the wrong frame, what it means when kids turn to AI for emotional connection, and whether the "perfect tutor" is the answer anyone thinks it is. Honest, critical, and grounded in classroom reality. Referenced in this episode Stanford AI + Education Summit 2026 The fourth annual summit, held February 11, 2026. Full conference on the Stanford HAI YouTube channel. AI Assessment Scale (AIAS) Developed by Mike Perkins, Leon Furze, Jasper Roe, and Jason MacVaugh. Five levels of acceptable AI use — from no AI to full AI with the student as director and evaluator. First published 2023, updated Version 2 in 2024. Adopted by hundreds of institutions worldwide, translated into 30+ languages. aiassessmentscale.comMatt Miller — AI for Educators Source of the 12 cheating scenarios Jake has been using to poll educators across the country. Miller also runs Ditch That Textbook. ditchthattextbook.comGoogle AI Quests Free, code-free, game-based AI literacy tool for students ages 11–14. Students step into the role of Google researchers solving real-world problems in climate, health, and science. Co-developed by Google Research and the Stanford Accelerator for Learning. Complete lesson plans and teacher guides included. research.google/ai-questsEthan Mollick — Co-Intelligence: Living and Working with AI (Penguin, 2024) Source of the centaur/cyborg framing. The centaur divides labor strategically between human and AI; the cyborg integrates the two fluidly within the same task. Mollick's Substack One Useful Thing is one of the more practically useful ongoing resources for educators thinking about AI. Co-Intelligence on AmazonCheating research Jake references "Cheating in the Age of Generative AI: A High School Survey Study of Cheating Behaviors Before and After the Release of ChatGPT" — Computers and Education: Artificial Intelligence (2024). Note: Jake mis-attributes this to Stanford — the actual source is below. Key findings: overall cheating volume stayed stable after ChatGPT launched; students who self-reported higher AI competence cheated less; clear boundaries and consequences remained the strongest deterrent. Full studyA note on homo technologicus was attributed to Yuval Noah Harari. It circulates in academic commentary on Harari's work but doesn't appear to be a direct Harari coinage. The concept maps to themes in Homo Deus, but we can't confirm the specific term originated there. We're leaving it as spoken and flagging it Got a question? We'd love to answer it! Leave us a voicemail on SpeakPipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Want more EduProtocols from Jake? Check out his book at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and more.

    1h 32m
  2. 04/23/2025

    Who Protects the Teacher?

    Send a text When something lands the right way in a classroom, it doesn’t just teach—it transforms. But in today’s climate, that transformation can come at a cost. In this episode, Jake shares a personal story he's never fully told publicly—about the time a group of parents tried to get him fired for teaching a novel. Not because it was inappropriate. But because it made students think, ask questions, and feel something real.  Read the full story on Substack:  Teaching What They’re Afraid Of: To ban a book is to fear what students might understand 📰 Hall Pass Headlines tackles a hard truth: Two in five teachers in the UK report being physically assaulted by students. It’s not just about behavior—it’s about a system that’s stopped protecting the people inside it. Read the article: The Times – “Two in five teachers assaulted as classroom violence surges” Mic Check features a voice message from educator Dr. Scott Petrie on the literacy wars—and what’s actually working in classrooms.   Want more on behavior? Check out this episode: All About That Baseline with Josh Kuersten: 3 Behavior Strategies Every Teacher Should Know Links & Resources Subscribe & review on Apple Podcasts or SpotifyJoin the conversation on SubstackGot a question? We'd love to answer it! Leave us a voicemail on SpeakPipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Want more EduProtocols from Jake? Check out his book at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and more.

    14 min
  3. 04/15/2025

    The Ship of ChatGPTseus: Identity, Authorship, and the Soul of Learning

    Send a text When the tools, tasks, and teaching all start to change—at what point do we stop and ask: Is this still education? In this mini episode, Jake Carr dives into the ancient thought experiment known as the Ship of Theseus to unpack what's happening in our schools today. From medieval monks copying texts by candlelight to students copy-pasting AI-generated responses, he asks: What makes learning authentic? What planks are we swapping out without realizing it? And what should teachers choose to hold onto? Along the way, Jake connects this to his new book The Skills That Last, offers four actionable strategies for preserving human-centered learning, and shares how his Waldorf background prepared him to teach in this new, high-tech era. Topics Covered: That classic meme: "My mom wrote the paper and I still got a D"The Ship of Theseus and its relevance to educationWhat happens when every part of school is slowly replacedThe invisible slope of AI-assisted student workWhen the work isn’t theirs anymore—and how to spot that momentWhat authentic learning might look like going forwardWhy skills like discernment, empathy, and will can’t be outsourcedA fresh look at the teacher’s role—not as captain, but as keelTangible Takeaways: Shift from Policing to Process Let students use AI—but teach them to revise, explain, and own their thinking.Assign What Only They Can Do Personal prompts. Local connections. Real reflection. Make it hard for AI to fake.Slow It Down on Purpose Use oral defenses, Socratic seminars, portfolio walkthroughs, and tools like Snorkl to make thinking visible.Make Your Pedagogy Visible Pull back the curtain. Tell students why you’re doing things the way you are—and what you hope they’ll take from it.Resources Mentioned: 📖 The Skills That Last (Jake’s upcoming book, make sure to subscribe to Substack for announcements and previews)📝 Teaching at the Speed of Soul – Jake’s latest Substack essay🗣️ Leave a voice message for the show📰 Subscribe to our Substack for more essays, questions, and reflections💬 Join the Conversation: What plank are you holding onto in your classroom? Leave us a voice message at whatteachershavetosay.speakpipe.com or tag Jake on social @MrCarrOnTheWeb. Got a question? We'd love to answer it! Leave us a voicemail on SpeakPipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Want more EduProtocols from Jake? Check out his book at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and more.

    14 min
  4. 04/01/2025

    AI is Swimming Across Education’s Moats — Are We Ready for What Comes Next?

    Send a text AI isn’t storming the gates of education — it’s swimming quietly across the moat. In this episode of What Teachers Have to Say, Jake unpacks how the traditional moats that once protected education — content, pedagogy, and institutional processes — are quietly eroding as AI reshapes the landscape. Inspired by a thought-provoking LinkedIn post by Steven Bartlett (FlightStory, Thirdweb, The Diary of a CEO), Jake explores how these shifts parallel what’s happening in business and asks: 👉 Are we ready for what comes next? We’ll explore: Why content has become a commodity — and what that means for the teacher’s role.Why sticking to scripted programs and pacing guides won’t protect schools — and how real expertise is more critical than ever.What new moats schools must build to stay relevant — from fostering authentic community to mentoring students in ways AI can’t replicate.But that’s not all. Jake also teases insights from his upcoming book with Dave Burgess Consulting, The Skills that Last: Preparing Students for an Unpredictable World, highlighting how curation, critical thinking, and mentorship are the key skills that will future-proof education. Ready to build stronger moats in your classroom?  💬 Leave us a message on SpeakPipe — your voice might be featured in an upcoming episode! 🎙️ Subscribe, share, and stay curious. Got a question? We'd love to answer it! Leave us a voicemail on SpeakPipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Want more EduProtocols from Jake? Check out his book at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and more.

    18 min
  5. EduProtocols Triple-Play: 3 Spins on a Classroom Classic to Defeat AI Anxiety

    03/25/2025

    EduProtocols Triple-Play: 3 Spins on a Classroom Classic to Defeat AI Anxiety

    Send a text In this episode, Jake Carr discusses the impact of artificial intelligence on education and how a shift from control to connection can enhance teaching using a recent article by Carlo Iacono. He introduces the EduProtocols Triple Play, which includes adaptations of the Frayer Model to foster student engagement, collaboration, and reflection. The conversation emphasizes the importance of witnessing student growth and creating a supportive learning environment, ultimately advocating for a more human-centered approach in education.takeaways AI is making teachers question traditional methods.Connection, not control, is key in education.The Frayer model can be adapted for deeper learning.Witnessing student growth is essential for effective teaching.Struggle in learning is a sign of progress.AI can assist but cannot replace human connection.Daily conditions in the classroom should foster engagement.EduProtocols can reduce teacher workload and increase student interaction.Reflection is crucial for student development.Teaching is about guiding students through their learning journey. Got a question? We'd love to answer it! Leave us a voicemail on SpeakPipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Want more EduProtocols from Jake? Check out his book at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and more. Got a question? We'd love to answer it! Leave us a voicemail on SpeakPipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Want more EduProtocols from Jake? Check out his book at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and more.

    17 min
  6. How Schools Should Be Using AI (But Most Aren’t)

    03/18/2025

    How Schools Should Be Using AI (But Most Aren’t)

    Send a text In this conversation, Jake, and guest call-in Maria, cover the integration of artificial intelligence (AI) in education, focusing on how it can enhance teaching and learning. He explores the distinction between automation and augmentation, practical strategies for teachers to implement AI, and the importance of fostering a creative culture around AI usage in schools. The discussion emphasizes the need for clear AI philosophies, teacher training, and transparency in AI adoption to ensure it enriches the educational experience rather than detracting from it. Got a question or comment? Leave us a voicemail on ⁠SpeakPipe⁠: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Takeaways AI can help with mundane tasks in the classroom. The focus should be on enhancing teaching, not replacing it. Teachers should use AI to lighten their cognitive load. Students need to learn to challenge AI, not just use it passively. Building relationships is something AI cannot do. A clear AI philosophy is essential for schools. Investing in teacher training is crucial before student use. Transparency in AI usage fosters a better learning environment. AI should be used for creativity, not compliance. AI can make education more enriching, not just efficient. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI in Education 01:27 Effective AI Implementation Strategies 01:54 The Rise of AI in Education 03:06 AI as Augmentation, Not Automation 04:26 Practical AI Roadmap for Teachers 06:43 District-Level AI Implementation Strategies 09:46 Fostering a Creative Culture with AI Got a question? We'd love to answer it! Leave us a voicemail on SpeakPipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Want more EduProtocols from Jake? Check out his book at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and more.

    11 min
  7. Coding Without Screens? How Sphero Indi is Transforming Early STEM & Literacy

    03/10/2025

    Coding Without Screens? How Sphero Indi is Transforming Early STEM & Literacy

    Send a text How do you teach computational thinking to kids without screens? In this episode, recorded live atTCEA in Austin, Texas, I sit down withNik from Sphero to talk aboutIndi, the screen-free coding robot that’s helping even the youngest learners develop problem-solving skills. But Indi isn’t just for coding—teachers are using it inELA, math, and more. 🎧Listen to hear: ✅ HowIndi teaches codingwithout screens ✅ How afirst-grade teacher used Indi forsentence-building ✅ Whyhands-on learning is critical forearly STEM & literacy 📌Opening Hook (0:00 - 1:30) – Live fromTCEA Austin! Why Sphero Indi is a game-changer for classrooms. 📌Segment 1: Why Indi? (1:30 - 4:30) GuestNik from Sphero shares whya screen-free coding robot was developed.HowIndi makes computational thinking physical instead of an abstract concept.📢Watch my TikTok on Indi in action ➡ [TikTok Link]📌Segment 2: Indi in Action – Sentence-Building with Robots? (4:30 - 8:00) Teachersaren’t just using Indi for coding—they’reteaching literacy with it.📚ELA Example: First gradersbuild sentences with Indi & color tiles.🔄 Instant feedback: Indicelebrates when students build a correct sentence.📌Closing & Call to Action (8:00 - 10:00) Big takeaway: Computer science is aboutproblem-solving, not just coding.Want to tryIndi in your classroom?Free ELA & Math lesson plans ⬇Leave a voicemail: Share your experiences with hands-on learning tools!📌Watch my TikTok on Indi: [TikTok Link] 📌Free Indi lesson plans (ELA & Math): [Sphero Central] 📌Leave a voicemail for the podcast: [SpeakPipe] 📌Follow on TikTok for more edtech insights: [@mr.carr.on.the.web] ✅Enjoyed this episode? Leave a5-star review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify—it helps more educators find the show! ✅Tag me on social! Share howyou’re using Indi (or any hands-on learning tool) in your classroom. 🚀Stay connected: Subscribe & follow for moreteacher-friendly, practical edtech insights! 🎙That’s it for today—see you next time on What Teachers Have to Say! Got a question? We'd love to answer it! Leave us a voicemail on SpeakPipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/whatteachershavetosay Want more EduProtocols from Jake? Check out his book at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and more.

    6 min
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What Teachers Have to Say brings together innovative educators to talk about what it means to be a teacher in the modern classroom. Each episode explores the emotional complexity of teaching as hosts Jake & Nathan talk through the trials and triumphs of teaching. We talk access and equity, artificial intelligence, student behavior, teacher burnout, mentorship models & more. Find practical teaching advice and resources presented in an approachable and real way, alongside valuable insights and inspiration in these thought-provoking conversations, for educators at all levels.

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