The Family in Business Podcast

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"For families who build businesses, and businesses that strengthen families” Running a business with family is one of the most rewarding things you can do. It's also one of the hardest. The Family in Business podcast is for Australian family business owners who want to grow a thriving, profitable business together - without letting it strain the relationships that matter most. Each week, hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon share honest conversations, practical strategies, and real-world insights drawn from over three decades of experience helping family businesses across Australia grow, scale, and plan for the future. Whether you're just starting to bring family into the business, trying to scale without burning out, navigating the tricky dynamics of working with a spouse or a sibling, or thinking seriously about succession and passing things on to the next generation - this show is built for you. Mark and Caroline cover the full family business journey: building systems that give you back your time, having the conversations most families avoid, creating a business that can run without you, and building wealth that carries across generations. This isn't a podcast about business in theory. It's about what actually works when the people around the boardroom table are also the people around the dinner table. Subscribe now and join a tribe of Australian family business owners keen to build something that lasts.

  1. 5d ago

    How To Stop Dealing With Rats and Mice in Your Family Business

    You gave someone a title. Manager, team leader, whatever it was, it felt like a win. So why is everything still landing back on your desk? Mark and Caroline break down the three simple questions every leader needs answered before a title actually means anything, and why skipping them is the real reason you're still dealing with rats and mice instead of running your business. A title without a framework isn't leadership. It's just a fancier way of staying the bottleneck. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 01:17 — Why handing out a title without a real framework sets people up to fail03:04 — The three simple questions every leader needs answered before a title means anything04:24 — What happens when you give people real decision-making authority06:09 — The "rats and mice" test08:23 — Why expecting a first-time manager to perform like a veteran is actually on you, not them11:59 — The six-day, six-week, six-month story that shows what real leverage looks like ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  2. Sep 22

    Stop Training Your Family Business Team to Need You

    Four people with the same task, and everyone is equally confused. At some point the common denominator is you, not them. In this episode, Mark and Caroline dig into why constantly repeating yourself doesn't actually fix anything, and the one shift that gets your team thinking for themselves even when you're not in the room. Real leadership is not about how many times you explain something. It's about whether people understand why it matters at all. Most owners think their team needs better instructions. What they actually need is a context around the outcome. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 01:09 — Why "they just don't think like I do" is the wrong question to be asking03:06 — The real definition of leadership, and why everything funnelling through you is quietly capping your business04:19 — How to build this habit starting with something as small as a customer complaint07:13 — Why outcomes matter more than instructions, and how it changes the way your team makes decisions11:27 — The simple test that tells you whether it's them or it's you13:53 — The jigsaw puzzle mindset that finally gets everyone on the same page ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  3. Sep 15

    How To Delegate the Right Way in Your Family Business

    How many decisions did you make last week that you'd already handed off to someone else? In this episode, Mark and Caroline unpack why so many family business owners stay stuck even after they've mastered the mechanics of delegation, the systems, the tools, the handoffs. They break down five distinct ways owners quietly sabotage their own team's growth without realising it, and chances are you'll recognise yourself in at least one within the first few minutes. There's also a pattern almost every owner has fallen into at least once, a single phrase that feels helpful in the moment but quietly teaches your team to stop thinking for themselves. Because the issue was never really what you delegate. It's what you do the second after you do. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 00:41 - The one-word answer that gives away every owner's biggest problem02:01 - Where the real issue in delegation lies03:40 - The five bottleneck types most owners fall into11:49 - What rescuing your team actually teaches them12:29 - Questions to ask yourself about the people around you who've stopped growing ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  4. Sep 9

    How to Scale Your Family Business Without Doing Everything Yourself

    You started this business for freedom. So why does it feel like you're the one thing holding it up? In this episode, Mark and Caroline dig into the difference between owner thinking and operator thinking, and why so many family businesses hit a ceiling the moment the founder can't tell the two apart. They talk about the backhoe driver who owns the truck but still drives it every day, why letting go feels like handing over your firstborn child, and the real reason it's less about trust in your team and more about who you think you are without the hands-on work. Scaling your family business is not about doing more, it's about becoming someone your business no longer needs to run. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 00:59 — What most business owners actually want when they scale02:52 — The "owner operator" trap and why doing everything yourself keeps you stuck06:03 — What owners should be thinking about versus what operators think about07:57 — The capability ladder, a simple way to hand things off to your team without losing control or trust09:21 — The mindset shift that comes with finally letting go10:32 — Why owners struggle to step back (and it's not a skills gap, it's identity)13:07 — How to shift from owner operator to owner (or founder) without losing the sense of who you are ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  5. Sep 1

    Why Family Business Owners Don’t Need All The Answers

    What happens when your team looks to you for an answer, and you genuinely don't have one? In this episode, Mark and Caroline unpack one of the biggest traps business owners fall into, especially when uncertainty hits. They explore what to do when you don't have the answer, why honesty builds more trust than false reassurance, and the simple three-step approach leaders can use to give their team clarity and a path forward. They also dig into the power of asking questions, being authentic, and knowing the outcome you're trying to achieve even when you don't yet know exactly how you'll get there. Leadership isn't about having every answer, It's about giving your people confidence that you'll lead them through what you don't know. And when you're running a family business, that's a skill that can give you something far more valuable than certainty: freedom. Your team doesn’t need a boss who knows everything. They need a leader who knows what to do when they don’t. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 00:19 - The leadership trap that makes you think you need every answer04:58 - What to say when you genuinely don’t know05:48 - Why making things up destroys leadership credibility06:29 - Three things your team needs from you07:47 - Why “Just trust me” isn’t enough anymore08:56 - The difference between knowing the answer and knowing the outcome10:22 - How authenticity helps your team stay calm when things get uncertain11:33 - The leadership challenge that starts with admitting what you don’t know13:00 - What your team really needs from you when you don’t have the answer ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  6. Aug 26

    Why Nothing Ever Gets Decided In Your Family Business

    You delegated decisions. So why did they all end up back on your desk? Do decisions keep drifting back to you, meetings end without clear ownership and everyone assumes someone else is handling it. And yet somehow, you’re still the one expected to sort it out. In this episode, Mark and Caroline unpack why delegation often fails even when you think you’ve delegated properly. They explore decision drift, the difference between assigning a task and assigning ownership, and what your team actually needs to make decisions confidently without constantly coming back to you. If you want a family business that runs with more ownership, less bottlenecking and far less reliance on you, this conversation gives you a practical way to find the decisions that are slowing everything down and fix them. The goal isn’t to make every decision faster. It’s to build a business where the right people have the clarity, authority, and confidence to make them without you. Find the decisions that keep drifting back to you, give them an owner, and start getting your time back. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 00:37 - Why your real problem may be decision ownership, not decision making01:41 - The delegation mistake that sends decisions straight back to you04:17 - Why people avoid ownership and what leaders can do about it06:22 - How to audit the decisions currently drifting around your business08:23 - The “Mr Nobody” problem that leaves important decisions with no owner09:40 - The framework for assigning ownership and getting decisions moving10:29 - Why defining the perfect outcome changes the decisions your team makes11:11 - How to replace decision drift with real decision ownership12:15 - Why small unmade decisions can quietly become very big problems ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  7. Aug 19

    From 60-Hour Weeks to Freedom Breaking the Overwhelm Trap in Family Business

    Stop comparing your day one to someone else’s day 3000. Here’s how to win your own race. When you run a family business, it’s so easy to fall into the trap of thinking, "Nobody can do this as well as I can." You end up working crazy hours, trapped in the daily grind, and convincing yourself that taking a step back is impossible. In this snapshot we break down why the old advice to "fake it till you make it" is total nonsense. Real freedom in business, getting your time back while building a legacy, doesn't come from faking confidence or putting on a show. It comes from believing in the process and trusting the people around you while taking one small, consistent step at a time. We chat about how to break out of the overwhelm trap, let go of control without panic, and stop comparing your inner reality to everyone else’s polished social media highlight reel. In this episode:Why “fake it till you make it” is a myth (and what to do instead)How to delegate without fear and trust your team to step upThe mindset shift that turns overwhelm into clarityWhy social media comparisons are toxic (and how to flip them into inspiration)The power of starting small (one step, one task, one win at a time) Success isn’t about faking confidence. It’s about believing in the next step, trusting the process, and building momentum one small win at a time. Listen to the full episode here Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-success-lie-youve-been-sold-and-the-one/id1683205897?i=1000703557764 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/3D4bSqt0DX0EFytnIqw395?si=ND0i23p4QZqe-6CkJHtzYg&nd=1&dlsi=7b292a649e214508 ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

  8. Aug 11

    The One Habit That Keeps Family Business Teams Loyal

    If the only time your team hears from you is when something goes wrong, you're accidentally building the wrong culture. Most business owners spend their day solving problems. It's part of the job. But if the only things that ever get your attention are the mistakes, don't be surprised if that's all your team starts noticing too. In this episode, Mark and Caroline explore the final piece of the GIPD framework and reveal why recognition is one of the most underrated leadership tools in business. They share practical ways to celebrate progress, acknowledge the invisible work your team does every day, and build a culture where people genuinely want to stay, grow, and take ownership. If your family business depends on great people, this conversation might completely change the way you lead them. Great cultures aren't built through grand gestures. They're built through small moments that happen consistently. This week, don't just look for problems to solve. Look for someone who's done something right and make sure they know you noticed. You might be surprised what happens next. In today's podcast you’ll discover: 01:20 - Why recognition matters far more than expensive rewards or annual awards nights03:43 - How invisible work quietly shapes culture, client experience, and business success06:32 - Why celebrating small wins creates bigger results than waiting for major milestones08:16 - The simple weekly ritual that helps successful teams repeat great performance10:20 - Small daily habits that strengthen culture and improve team engagement11:44 - Why your recognition ratio matters more than your problem ratio12:56 - A practical leadership challenge to help your team feel seen this we ---------- About the Families in Business Podcast The Families in Business podcast is for family business owners who want to grow a thriving business together, without sacrificing the relationships that matter most. Each week, Mark and Caroline Creedon bring you honest conversations about the real challenges and opportunities that come with running a business as a family - from scaling and systems, to succession planning, to making sure the business serves your life and not the other way around. Whether you're in the early growth phase or thinking about passing the business on to the next generation, this podcast will give you practical strategies and a fresh perspective on the family business journey. ---------- About Your Hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon are business coaches with over three decades of hands-on experience helping Australian business owners build companies that give them more time, money and freedom. They understand the unique dynamics of running a business with family - because they live it themselves. ---------- Subscribe for More New episodes drop every week. Subscribe so you never miss practical advice on growing your family business, planning for the future, and building something that lasts. ---------- Enjoyed this episode? If this episode resonated with you, please leave a comment or review. It helps other family business owners find the show and join the conversation.

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"For families who build businesses, and businesses that strengthen families” Running a business with family is one of the most rewarding things you can do. It's also one of the hardest. The Family in Business podcast is for Australian family business owners who want to grow a thriving, profitable business together - without letting it strain the relationships that matter most. Each week, hosts Mark and Caroline Creedon share honest conversations, practical strategies, and real-world insights drawn from over three decades of experience helping family businesses across Australia grow, scale, and plan for the future. Whether you're just starting to bring family into the business, trying to scale without burning out, navigating the tricky dynamics of working with a spouse or a sibling, or thinking seriously about succession and passing things on to the next generation - this show is built for you. Mark and Caroline cover the full family business journey: building systems that give you back your time, having the conversations most families avoid, creating a business that can run without you, and building wealth that carries across generations. This isn't a podcast about business in theory. It's about what actually works when the people around the boardroom table are also the people around the dinner table. Subscribe now and join a tribe of Australian family business owners keen to build something that lasts.

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