Content Marketing Is Dead Podcast

EJ Brown

Interviews about the future of content and brand marketing. www.contentmarketingisdead.com

Episodes

  1. More than Translation: Content Localization in SaaS

    05/29/2024

    More than Translation: Content Localization in SaaS

    It’s easy to default to English as the primary—and maybe the only—language you do business in when you’re targeting North America and Western Europe. But SaaS businesses more often than not serve customers globally. And if they fail to serve different languages and cultures properly, they’re missing out on significant revenue.  The usual reasons we see companies delay—or refuse to invest in—localization are financial and the fear of what it takes to do it right. While the work of localization can look daunting or complex, setting the right structure and working with the right partners can make the process easier than you imagine and much more profitable. To learn about the topic of localization and its effect on content strategy, I talked with Markus Seebauer, managing director of Gateway Translations. Listen to the full episode for insights into the strategy behind localization, choosing the right time, how global marketing changes affect localization, and more. Markus Seebauer is a managing director of Gateway Translations, a provider of technical translations. This German-born digital nomad has been in the translation and localization business for over 10 years. He guides strategic aspects to identify the right markets, consults on translation technology (vendor-independent), and creates translation workflows that scale a process and provide translations into 45 languages with his team. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.contentmarketingisdead.com

    32 min
  2. 11/16/2023

    It’s Not Just ChatGPT: SEO Is Rapidly Evolving

    Listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Gone are the days when a good SEO strategy amounted to keyword-optimized blog posts and technical optimization to make your website load faster. Search optimization is getting much more complicated and competitive.  I spoke to two SEO experts, Greg Heilers and Paul Andre - aka Dre - De Vera, about how SEO is changing and what content marketers need to consider when building out a comprehensive SEO strategy. Yes, we talked about the impact of AI, but that’s not the only change you need to stay on top of. SEO is moving to be more multimedia and experiential-oriented. For instance, Google search results pages are pulling in more and more video content, map data, and more. And a comprehensive SEO strategy doesn’t stop at Google. (And I don’t mean including Bing). Your SEO strategy needs to consider everywhere your prospects are searching for products or services like yours or your clients. The Experts Greg Heilers is a Co-Founder of Jolly SEO, where the team creates future-proof, Google-safe, white hat backlinks & media mentions for clientele. In podcasts, articles, and courses, Greg enjoys sharing the knowledge he and his team have built through 5 years training hundreds of writers to send 150,000+ pitches & earn 15,000+ high authority wins. Connect on LinkedIn. Paul Andre de Vera is a 15+ year B2B digital marketer who creates engaging, educational, and entertaining video content that ranks. His innovative approach has made “Dre” a sought-after speaker, online educator, and brand strategist for professionals and companies. Nowadays, you’ll find “Dre” speaking on podcasts/webinars, looking for the next great place to devour a delicious rib-eye steak, and occasionally sipping a glass of whiskey. All while providing SEO consulting at PaulAndre.com, hosting the livestream SEO Video Show, and producing the SEO Knowledge Bombs podcast. Connect on LinkedIn. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.contentmarketingisdead.com

    47 min
  3. 08/22/2023

    Segments > Personas and Aligning Your Customer and Website Strategy

    When my guests and I discussed a theme for this episode, we decided on persona-driven copy and content vs top-down marketing. What this means: if your messaging and content strategies are based on high-level personas as opposed to deep market and user research, you’re missing out. But I’m hopeful that most experienced marketers know this by now. The problem is that even if you know you’ll see more success when you align your marketing strategies and content around this deeper market research, you still need a strategy to conduct this research and figure out how to use it. That’s the conversation I had with customer research and copy experts Adrienne Barnes and Sam Howard. Listen to the full episode for insights into conducting better customer interviews, creating better audience segments and personas, and a lot more. About The Guests Adrienne Barnes helps early-stage B2B SaaS companies find product market fit through market research.  Her marketing superpower is “pulling information from people, pulling information from internal demands, and then turning that into something that's useful for the organization.” Connect with Adrienne on LinkedIn. Ekaterina (Sam) Howard works with growing B2B SaaS startups that need help speaking to their best customers in a way that would resonate and convert. According to Sam, their superpower is translating customer research into copy. (Per this interview, if I had to guess, I’d say it’s aligning content, web, and user experience strategies.)  Connect with Sam on LinkedIn. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.contentmarketingisdead.com

    39 min
  4. 06/28/2023

    Content Strategies to Target SMBs

    I recently spoke to Andrew Nicoletta, Senior Manager of Content Marketing at ServiceTitan, and Cecilia Li, Content Marketing Manager at NexHealth, about content marketing strategies when you’re targeting small businesses. ServiceTitan serves home service businesses while NexHealth works with private healthcare practices. Listen to the full interview for insights into content budgets,  rolling out initiatives, and more. And we talked A LOT about creating content are customer stories. Here are a few highlights about how to get more value out of content featuring customers when travel is involved. 1. Line Up Several Shoots or Interviews in One Location NexHealth will line up several case studies in one place to make a trip worthwhile. Initially, her team was using local production companies to film and edit, but they found that the editing process could take a long time. By lining up multiple customer stories in one place, it made it more financially viable to fly out an in-house team. They also film with several pieces of content in mind: “Besides just a case study, we usually chop. all the raw footage up into different segments to maximize other channels. Can we do a short one-minute bite for social media and use it for a month? Can we add some different text overlay and make it suitable for TikTok? So those are the things that we think about before we go in for each case study.” 2. Offer Your Customers Content They Can Use in Return If you are filming in person, some businesses may have to shut down in order to collaborate for case studies, so make it worth their time. Sometimes a discount on your services or platform will work or financial compensation for their time. But for other companies, offering them digital assets they can use is just as valuable. “Branding is important, but they don't know how to build that brand,” Cecilia explains of some of NexHealth’s customers. “They probably have their office manager help them with a marketing task and things like that. So we try to give back to them in that way. Sort of like  helping them film a photo shoot when we're there or helping them create a brand video.” Bonus tip: Use social platforms in different ways. For instance, NexHealth doesn’t see as much organic engagement on their own content on Instagram, but Cecilia and her team have found that it’s a great place to initiate conversations with prospects by commenting on their content and starting DMs. 3. Create Content That Centers Your Customers, Not Just Your Business Some of ServiceTitan’s top performing customer-based content features their customers, not their own platform. Their Shop Tours videos in which ServiceTitan customers give a behind-the-scenes look at their shops, are incredibly popular earning 5- and 6-figure views. 4. Have the Campaign Strategy Nailed Before Asking for a Travel Budget Andrew makes sure that his team knows exactly how they’d use the content from a customer before requesting the funds to make it happen: “Whether it's a geo-focused campaign, if there's radio, how your email team's gonna leverage that, and so on.” Andrew emphasized making sure you know the primary promotion or distribution channel you’re pursuing, as well as how you plan on reusing content in the future. This podcast is brought to you by Prism B2B, a marketing consultancy specializing in multimedia and multichannel content strategies. Email info@prismb2b.io to be considered as a guest for this podcast or to learn more about Prism. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.contentmarketingisdead.com

    48 min
  5. 06/01/2023

    Balancing Brand Voice, Beauty, and Usability in Content and Design

    One of the most difficult challenges in content marketing is finding that sweet spot where you’re talking on your ICP’s level. You’re neither over-explaining concepts they find too basic nor going over their heads. But that’s just the beginning. Not only should content speak to your target audience on their level, it also needs to offer insights that stick with them. And this is no small task. Recently I spoke to Shawn Nichols, Founder of Metriq, a UX design firm, and Chelsea Castle, the head of content for Lavender AI. The theme of the conversation was balancing brand voice and usability in content and design. Listen for insights into the psychology of the site visitor, how a designer sees the relationship between design and content, and a multifaceted approach to content usability. Next up: Best practices when creating case studies and how to market to local businesses. Resources Mentioned in the Episode * Zag: The Number One Strategy of High Performance Brands by Marty Neumeier * The Design of Everyday Things by Don Norman * UX Design Field Book by Doug Collins * Laws of UX  by Jon Yablonski * Deepak Chopra podcasts * Organizational psychologist Adam Grant’s Rethinking podcast * Nudge by Richard Thaler * Adrienne Barnes’ Twitter * Katelyn Bourgoin — Person to follow This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.contentmarketingisdead.com

    40 min
  6. 05/15/2023

    B2B Video Marketing Strategy with Joe Newton

    The newest Content Marketing is Dead podcast episode is live! Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. B2B businesses have been slow to adopt video content as a core part of their marketing strategy. "Every company by now has made an explainer video," Josef Newton explained. "But the number of companies that have actually adopted it as consistent part [of their marketing strategy] — it's tiny." And those that are using video content aren't necessarily doing so in a sustainable way. “A lot of the time the goal is to make things that just look sexy and cool rather than things that actually get consumed,” he said. These are two of the reasons that Josef and his cofounder Sergey Ross started Sway, a B2B video strategy and production company. “Our goal was to help companies consistently ship out video content that gets consumed. That’s the number one objective.” I spoke to Josef (or Joe) about B2B video strategies. Listen to the full episode for best practices on video usability, utilizing TikTok, finding the right interview clips to use on LinkedIn, and more. Below are highlights from the episode: Seven reasons why B2B video strategies tend to fail. 1. Your Video Production Isn’t Integrated Into Your Overall Marketing Strategy “A lot of video gets created in its own expensive isolation,” Joe explains. “It's not connected to the rest of the written content engine: your blog, your case studies.” This is a theme that keeps coming up again and again on this podcast: the siloing of marketing functions. When components of your marketing strategy (such as video and written content) are created separately, the result is missed opportunities and a disjointed brand. 2. The Wrong People Are Creating Your Videos Per Joe, there’s a ton of amazing talent in the B2B space around written content, but significantly less talent that has a true video marketing background. “There's a lot of video production people, but not necessarily people who understand how to make videos for YouTube, TikTok — these social channels and platforms,” Joe explains. Video specialists need to understand what kinds of content work on different platforms and in your market. If you don’t have internal talent that is well-versed in B2B video marketing, there are a couple of options. One is utilizing companies like Sway that specialize in this exact thing.  The other is recognizing that whatever content your team produces is going to be an experiment, so prioritize testing. Try out different video formats and lengths. Try out different topics. Track everything and iterate quickly. 3. You’re Not Balancing Sustainability and Quality A lot of the B2B video content that exists today is filmed in person, and it’s unsustainable. While it’s great to get as much in-person content as you can, it probably shouldn’t be the majority of your video strategy. When companies look for a positive ROI from costly footage and don’t find it, it can be super tempting to just give up on a video strategy altogether instead of trying different, more sustainable approaches. What I've found is that a B2B audience isn't looking for high production value — they're looking for insights to grow their businesses or careers; they're looking for an explanation of how to use a product; they're looking for reasons to keep their eye on a company. Instead of spending thousands getting in-person footage, invest in video usability and strategy. Things like video SEO and utilizing easy-to-create videos throughout the customer journey. 4. You’re Expecting Videos To Be Directly Tied to Conversions There are cases when videos can be directly tied to conversions, such as outbound Loom videos from your sales reps, or personalized videos used in an account-based marketing approach. All of this can be extremely effective. But when you're using videos as part of an organic social media approach, it's much more difficult (and beside the point) to try and track the conversion rates of videos. When utilizing videos on social — especially newer channels like TikTok, a better perspective is to think about how to create an engaged community. "It's like insanely cheap brand awareness is how I see it," Joe explained. You’re Not Changing Your Strategy to Increase Engagement Video engagement is one of the best ways to tell if something is working. On YouTube, Joe recommends looking at overall subscriber growth from month to month and longer watch times. Ideally, you want to increase video retention to average between 30% to 60%. He also recommends looking for an increase in thoughtful comments: Are they leaving interesting comments? It's not people just saying, ‘Great video,’ and that's it. It's like people are talking about something that was said in the video. That’s a good sign that your video content is onto something memorable. These are good metrics to use across social platforms. Are people watching the entire 30 to 90-second clip on LinkedIn or TikTok? Are they responding to them or sharing them? You’re on your way to building a loyal online following. (Chili Piper’s TikTok account is making waves for covering remote work culture and other workplace topics.) 5. Your Videos Aren’t Accessible “A mindset that I'd call out is: you want to make your videos as easy to consume as your text,” Joe recommended. Video accessibility isn’t just about captions. For instance, if you’re using longer videos, and they’re not broken up into chapters or have easy-to-find key timestamps, it makes it more difficult to consume your videos in a meaningful way. This will help with video SEO, as well. Joe mentioned Y Combinator as a brand that creates viewer-friendly videos. Y Combinator uses a variety of methods to help viewers navigate their videos, including in-video outlines. Another aspect of video accessibility is how well it's integrated into your other marketing assets, such as blog posts. For instance, if you have an in-depth blog post, Joe recommends pairing it up with a video with timestamps that match the main points of the post. 7. You're Limiting Video Content to Certain Parts of the Sales Funnel From product launch videos to  how-to videos to video case studies, there are video buckets that can be used across the sale funnel and beyond.  "It surprises me how many companies don't create case study videos," Joe said. "I think again because there's that perception that they need to be done in person with really expensive equipment, and that's why they don't get created. But doing case studies remotely is not that difficult. And I think that's where a lot of companies should start." Looking for a better video strategy and help with video production? Reach out to Sway. Looking for a more cohesive marketing strategy that includes video content? Let's chat. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.contentmarketingisdead.com

    32 min

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Interviews about the future of content and brand marketing. www.contentmarketingisdead.com