Mutual Understanding

Ben & Divia
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A podcast where we seek to understand our mutual's worldviews mutualunderstanding.substack.com

  1. Kave and I talk adventure games etc.

    11/21/2025

    Kave and I talk adventure games etc.

    Relatively rambling as usual, especially the second half I think. I hope some of you enjoy it! Some links: * Kave on X * Kave’s blog (with his excellent Inkhaven posts) * some tweets of mine about being stuck in puzzles * Justin Wack and the Big Time Hack * Scott Whiskers * Mutropolis * Golden Idol games This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

    1h 31m
  2. Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom

    11/14/2025

    Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom

    Last week, I went to see Matt Bateman and Aaron Stupple talk about their parenting disagreements at The Montessorium, the (pretty new!) school Matt created. I enjoyed their conversation, wanted to hear even more, asked them if they’d be up for coming on my podcast, and they did! Probably the best place to find more is on X.com, and here are a few more links too: * Aaron’s book, The Sovereign Child (the link is to the free pdf, and it’s also available at all major book stores * Taking Children Seriously * a thing I wrote a while back about some of what I think about unschooling (ETA: I have locked the comments because I both feel somewhat responsible for comments made on my posts and don’t have the bandwidth to monitor them at this time) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

    1h 34m
  3. Shea and I talk UBI studies and the metaphysics of value

    08/28/2025

    Shea and I talk UBI studies and the metaphysics of value

    A bunch of this was me trying to understanding Shea’s metaphysics of value and also where he sees property rights as coming from. It may have been more repetitive than usual, since I kept asking him to explain stuff again, but it was helpful for me at least! We reference this series of blog posts about proposed reforms to zoning laws. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

    1h 49m
  4. Shea and I talk intrapersonal property rights etc

    08/01/2025

    Shea and I talk intrapersonal property rights etc

    Shea started out talking about recognizing thought processes as value-laden, and then we got into ~psych debugging a way I think some of my thought processes haven’t been respecting what I think are the correct internal property rights. Shea updated somewhat about what I mean when I’m saying things in an IFS framing. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

    1h 50m
  5. Malcolm Ocean and I talk about collective IFS Self

    06/26/2025

    Malcolm Ocean and I talk about collective IFS Self

    Some things we mentioned include: * A Positive Account of Property Rights * the original instructions for we-ness * someone's write-up of the we-ship experiment that Malcolm ran (the one where we did the "goodbye for now, Malcolm") Malcolm also posted the same conversation but with video to his YouTube channel if you want that! I’ve included some automatically generated chapter timestamps in case that’s useful. Chapters 00:00 Exploring Internal Family Systems and WeSpace 03:01 Collective Selfness and Group Dynamics 06:00 The We-Ship Experiment: Collective Consciousness 08:59 Navigating Individuality within Collectivity 11:58 Fractal Nature of Selfness in Groups 15:02 Understanding Self-Energy in Group Contexts 17:55 Projection and Responsibility in Group Dynamics 20:49 Defining Boundaries: What is Us and What is Not Us? 27:00 Navigating Relevance in Conversations 29:55 The Dynamics of Group Triggers 32:57 Exploring Collective Self and Shame 36:12 Understanding Boundaries and Ownership 39:00 Moral Layers in Property and Boundaries 41:54 The Complexity of Group Dynamics 44:58 Fairness and Communication Styles 55:58 Earning Attention and Communication Dynamics 57:03 Navigating Group Dynamics and Proactive Engagement 59:00 Establishing Boundaries in Communication 59:51 Finding Solutions in Parenting and Communication 01:00:55 The Importance of Shared Information in Conversations 01:03:05 Addressing Safety and Container Dynamics 01:03:59 Self-Sustaining Dynamics in Group Settings 01:05:55 The Role of Leadership in Group Containers 01:07:54 Exploring Collective Self and Attunement 01:10:01 Unpacking Self and Group Dynamics 01:11:57 Ego Awareness and Self-Modeling in Conversations This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

    1h 23m
  6. Shea and I talk military theory and also about how we have bigger families

    06/14/2025

    Shea and I talk military theory and also about how we have bigger families

    I probably should have split this up into two episodes, but instead it’s all together. The first part of the conversation is basically about how Shea thinks military conflicts should work in the modern world, with the recent Israel and Iran war as a jumping off point. We talked about The West Wing speech about a proportional response. I tried to summarize what I thought Shea was saying about his theory of conflict, and how it analogized to interpersonal conflicts between individuals. And then, at 1hr 28min in, we switched topics and talked some about how both of us have big families as atheists, which is pretty uncommon. I have plans to make a mini series of podcast episodes with various atheists who have large families, so this is sort of the first episode of that. (But I expect me and Shea to revisit the topic later too.) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

    1h 54m
  7. Ben and I talk politics and predictions

    06/06/2025

    Ben and I talk politics and predictions

    I had a fun time catching up with my former cohost! Some links we mentioned: * Ben's website * Ben’s substack * Good Strategy Bad Strategy * my blog This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

    56 min
  8. Shea and I talk scarfgate and how ethics works

    05/17/2025

    Shea and I talk scarfgate and how ethics works

    We talked about the scarfgate and it turned into a whole thing about how discussions of ethics should work. We didn’t even really get to the part about “high agency”! We did get to analyzing how I pirated music when I was in college. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

    1h 42m
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A podcast where we seek to understand our mutual's worldviews mutualunderstanding.substack.com

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  • Creator
    Ben & Divia
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2025
  • Episodes
    46
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © Ben and Divia
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    Mutual Understanding